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On June 16 2013 16:36 vrok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:28 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. GSTL dead? Not only is it still awesome, the stream numbers have been historically much higher than Proleague. Like, I don't see any Nestea all-kills in Proleague or tomatoheads  The point is that there is barely ever any content, too many teams/players with zero chance, and a looming threat of teams disbanding. If you like the show aspect that's fine, I agree that GOMTV production and casters are much better, but it's just not relevant any more. Playing competitive Starcraft is what matters and GSTL can't deliver.
There are still a lot of good matches and I actually think that the top 6 teams in GSTL are all capable of winning. The biggest issue is the frequency of matches and the looming threat of teams disbanding. With changes GSTL can still continue but I'd rather see a PL with more teams and GOM covering PL.
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On June 16 2013 16:34 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:32 Arceus wrote:On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago. Television vs Internet man. LG would have moved a few million more Optimus, players would have mention 10 more sponsors if IM plays at Yongsan I agree and I really think IM will play in proleague next season just for the increased advertising, I thought we were talking about the foreign audience though.
Watching IM in pro league would be amazing! They just need to buy Maru/Jjaki to deepen their terrans as well to make everything perfect.
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On June 16 2013 16:37 Fionn wrote:
GSTL sometimes gets more people than Proleague.
Right now, neither is really prestigious. I'll wait for my final judgment when playoffs/finals come. I'm hoping OGN doesn't totally disregard the Proleague finals. After a fucking year of playing, hopefully they go all out.
PL is very prestigious in the sens that most of the best players in the world see it as the most important tournament. It is not very prestigious in the sens that many foreigners disregard it.
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Now that is a red prism. Still SoS looking better I think
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Canada16217 Posts
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On June 16 2013 16:47 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:37 Fionn wrote:
GSTL sometimes gets more people than Proleague.
Right now, neither is really prestigious. I'll wait for my final judgment when playoffs/finals come. I'm hoping OGN doesn't totally disregard the Proleague finals. After a fucking year of playing, hopefully they go all out. PL is very prestigious in the sens that most of the best players in the world see it as the most important tournament. It is not very prestigious in the sens that many foreigners disregard it.
but when JD is crying out for more people to turn up, it's hard to imagine bw progamers think pl as prestige as before
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Canada16217 Posts
sos is killing a lot of stuff but zenio has a giant bank
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This is painful to watch ... when will Zerg players learn to cover their whole main base with creep and place static defense at the point of entry for a Warp Prism?
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Those zealot runbys/warpins so effective
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Zenio needed about 60 more spines.
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4000 minerals,makes no static defenses around the bases...
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Zealots are manly units for manly man players.
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Watching Zenio play is so painful. sOs playing super greedy, better not attack at all...
Let's attack sOs's third with a third of the Hydra's...
Let's keep all units in the middle of the map after the main base has been warp prism'd several times. Who needs static defense...
Save Hive..., move Hydra's out without killing the 4 zealots killing the spire.
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sOs lawling over Zenio. =)
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On June 16 2013 16:49 artrea wrote:
Those zealot runbys/warpins so effective
Only because Zenio is stupid enough to keep the Spore Crawlers (and his creep) at the Mineral line ... thus leaving a "safe area" to warp in stuff.
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at this rate sOs wont need anything other than zealots to erase the left side of the map
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EPT
