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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 16 2013 07:41 GMT
#81
On June 16 2013 16:36 vrok wrote:
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On June 16 2013 16:28 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague.

I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two.

Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now...

No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed.

GSTL dead? Not only is it still awesome, the stream numbers have been historically much higher than Proleague. Like, I don't see any Nestea all-kills in Proleague or tomatoheads

The point is that there is barely ever any content, too many teams/players with zero chance, and a looming threat of teams disbanding. If you like the show aspect that's fine, I agree that GOMTV production and casters are much better, but it's just not relevant any more. Playing competitive Starcraft is what matters and GSTL can't deliver.


There are still a lot of good matches and I actually think that the top 6 teams in GSTL are all capable of winning. The biggest issue is the frequency of matches and the looming threat of teams disbanding. With changes GSTL can still continue but I'd rather see a PL with more teams and GOM covering PL.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 16 2013 07:42 GMT
#82
On June 16 2013 16:34 Dodgin wrote:
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On June 16 2013 16:32 Arceus wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague.

I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two.

Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now...

No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed.

Nope

It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol.


The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago.


Television vs Internet man. LG would have moved a few million more Optimus, players would have mention 10 more sponsors if IM plays at Yongsan


I agree and I really think IM will play in proleague next season just for the increased advertising, I thought we were talking about the foreign audience though.


Watching IM in pro league would be amazing! They just need to buy Maru/Jjaki to deepen their terrans as well to make everything perfect.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
June 16 2013 07:47 GMT
#83
On June 16 2013 16:37 Fionn wrote:
GSTL sometimes gets more people than Proleague.

Right now, neither is really prestigious. I'll wait for my final judgment when playoffs/finals come. I'm hoping OGN doesn't totally disregard the Proleague finals. After a fucking year of playing, hopefully they go all out.

PL is very prestigious in the sens that most of the best players in the world see it as the most important tournament. It is not very prestigious in the sens that many foreigners disregard it.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
June 16 2013 07:47 GMT
#84
Now that is a red prism. Still SoS looking better I think
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 16 2013 07:47 GMT
#85
wow can zenio beat sos?
Moderatorlickypiddy
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 16 2013 07:48 GMT
#86
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12399 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#87
On June 16 2013 16:47 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 16:37 Fionn wrote:
GSTL sometimes gets more people than Proleague.

Right now, neither is really prestigious. I'll wait for my final judgment when playoffs/finals come. I'm hoping OGN doesn't totally disregard the Proleague finals. After a fucking year of playing, hopefully they go all out.

PL is very prestigious in the sens that most of the best players in the world see it as the most important tournament. It is not very prestigious in the sens that many foreigners disregard it.

but when JD is crying out for more people to turn up, it's hard to imagine bw progamers think pl as prestige as before
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#88
sos is killing a lot of stuff but zenio has a giant bank
Moderatorlickypiddy
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#89
zenio falling apart..
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#90
This is painful to watch ... when will Zerg players learn to cover their whole main base with creep and place static defense at the point of entry for a Warp Prism?
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#91
Those zealot runbys/warpins so effective
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#92
Zenio needed about 60 more spines.
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Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
June 16 2013 07:49 GMT
#93
4000 minerals,makes no static defenses around the bases...

Terrans
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
June 16 2013 07:50 GMT
#94
Poor Zenio :[
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julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
June 16 2013 07:50 GMT
#95
Zealots are manly units for manly man players.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 16 2013 07:50 GMT
#96
Watching Zenio play is so painful. sOs playing super greedy, better not attack at all...

Let's attack sOs's third with a third of the Hydra's...

Let's keep all units in the middle of the map after the main base has been warp prism'd several times. Who needs static defense...

Save Hive..., move Hydra's out without killing the 4 zealots killing the spire.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
June 16 2013 07:50 GMT
#97
sOs lawling over Zenio. =)
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 16 2013 07:50 GMT
#98
On June 16 2013 16:49 artrea wrote:
Those zealot runbys/warpins so effective

Only because Zenio is stupid enough to keep the Spore Crawlers (and his creep) at the Mineral line ... thus leaving a "safe area" to warp in stuff.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 16 2013 07:51 GMT
#99
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 16 2013 07:51 GMT
#100
at this rate sOs wont need anything other than zealots to erase the left side of the map
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