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mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
June 16 2013 15:48 GMT
#1341
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
June 16 2013 15:48 GMT
#1342
On June 17 2013 00:45 Wintex wrote:
"Group standings are decided in the following order points, maps, internal meeting, internal maps."
Doesn't this mean that lucky wins the thing>???


Points: both have 2 (2 wins), Maps: both have +1, Internal meeting: Thorzain won --> thorzain advances.

This is assuming Maps means mapscore and not maps won.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DoeniDon
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland100 Posts
June 16 2013 15:48 GMT
#1343
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.


He has the exact same map score and lost to ThorZain. It's only fair that TZ advances.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 16 2013 15:48 GMT
#1344
On June 17 2013 00:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?

I think the argument comes up every dreamhack
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 15:49:27
June 16 2013 15:49 GMT
#1345
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.

FNMKAWJSNFANJFG

Okay

ThorZaIN 4-3
Lucky 5-4

Lucky has 1 more win, but 1 more loss. It balances out. ThorZaIN beat Lucky, so he wins the head to head. NUMBER OF WINS means jack fucking shit because you need to take losses into account too. ThorZaIN lost less than Lucky.

On June 17 2013 00:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?

I think the argument comes up every dreamhack


YEP.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
June 16 2013 15:49 GMT
#1346
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:46 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 17 2013 00:45 Wintex wrote:
"Group standings are decided in the following order points, maps, internal meeting, internal maps."
Doesn't this mean that lucky wins the thing>???

no it means map is +1 by both it doesnt say "won maps" so both are tied and now internal meeting goes to tfunk and he is through


Does it say map difference? This ruleset is way too unclear.


U should count losses aswell i think. If so, thorzain advances.. its a bitchy situation.
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
June 16 2013 15:49 GMT
#1347
On June 17 2013 00:48 DoeniDon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.


He has the exact same map score and lost to ThorZain. It's only fair that TZ advances.

Except Lucky has 5 wins, so the map score is 5-4...

This is ridiculous...
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 16 2013 15:49 GMT
#1348
This fucking ZvP strat.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 16 2013 15:49 GMT
#1349
On June 17 2013 00:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?

I think the argument comes up every dreamhack

Cause their ruleset is unclear and leaves the power to the admins who can read it as they like.
The Bomber boy
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 15:50:16
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1350
On June 17 2013 00:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?

I think the argument comes up every dreamhack

yep indeed and everytime everyone is upset with these bad europeans who favor their players, always the same becoming annoying as hell
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1351
On June 17 2013 00:49 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.

FNMKAWJSNFANJFG

Okay

ThorZaIN 4-3
Lucky 5-4

Lucky has 1 more win, but 1 more loss. It balances out. ThorZaIN beat Lucky, so he wins the head to head. NUMBER OF WINS means jack fucking shit because you need to take losses into account too. ThorZaIN lost less than Lucky.

Exactly this. I don't understand why this is even a debate lol.
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Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1352
On June 17 2013 00:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?

I think the argument comes up every dreamhack


Pretty much every single DreamHack.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1353
On June 17 2013 00:49 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:48 DoeniDon wrote:
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.


He has the exact same map score and lost to ThorZain. It's only fair that TZ advances.

Except Lucky has 5 wins, so the map score is 5-4...

This is ridiculous...


Lucky also has 4 losses.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 15:54:03
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1354
On June 17 2013 00:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:43 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Well seems like Thorzain got through after all. Now I am little less sad Naniwa lost, go TFunk!

Wow... that's pretty lame.

More wins =/= doesn't advance... lol WP Dreamhack, WP.


Man people are stupid.. but okay lets not give up on mankind yet. I will try to explain it, maybe someone will get smarter.

So the score is based wins and lose, or rather the difference between them. Lose are negative, wins are positive. That means Thorzain and lucky have the same score, positive 1. Thus they are T-I-E-D in score.

As they are T-I-E-D the rules progresses to the next deciding factor, in this case head-head performance. Than Thorzain beat Lucky, that is the same as he wins in the next deciding category.

See?
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1355
On June 17 2013 00:49 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:47 Wintex wrote:
I sense favoritism for the swede. This isnt making sense. 5>4 and that's maps WON. Lucky should advance.

FNMKAWJSNFANJFG

Okay

ThorZaIN 4-3
Lucky 5-4

Lucky has 1 more win, but 1 more loss. It balances out. ThorZaIN beat Lucky, so he wins the head to head. NUMBER OF WINS means jack fucking shit because you need to take losses into account too. ThorZaIN lost less than Lucky.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 00:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 17 2013 00:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
Did dreamhack handle situations like this in previous DH?

I think the argument comes up every dreamhack


YEP.


motbob wrote this entire thing:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=399543
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=404503

Also, this is Dreamhack. They should have used a coin.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 15:53:02
June 16 2013 15:50 GMT
#1356
It all comes down to whether maps means maps won or map score, but the decision was already made, thorzain is through so it should be map score.

Dennis Steisjö ‏@Steisjo 8m

@EGThorZaIN @pughydude Yeah Marcus, mapscore->headtohead so u win
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Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 16 2013 15:51 GMT
#1357
110 zerglings, christ
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
June 16 2013 15:51 GMT
#1358
Well that was interesting
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artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
June 16 2013 15:51 GMT
#1359
heh 132 lings on order
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
June 16 2013 15:53 GMT
#1360
Is it known at which stream Jaedong games will be casted?
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