On June 01 2013 02:32 Swiipii wrote:
But why can't Protoss players just play safe ? First Feast and his dumb builds and now TiTan with the brain fart ..
I just don't get it . xd

Titan played as safe as can be... He just mismicroed his army pretty badly. That's completely different to what Feast did.

Swiipii

2195 Posts

May 31 2013 17:38 GMT

#62

On June 01 2013 02:34 Nebuchad wrote:

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Titan played as safe as can be... He just mismicroed his army pretty badly. That's completely different to what Feast did.

Well I'd say getting all your army stuck except your colossus and high templars is a pretty big misstep :d I mean Kas had no SCV's on this base he just stormed all the SCV's with his drop ! Just take a 5th , build up an even bigger army and a+move to victory .
That was just so wierd .

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

May 31 2013 17:39 GMT

#63

Come on Kas :/ you have to advance

Lorning

Belgica34432 Posts

May 31 2013 17:39 GMT

#64

Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 2

Yes (3)

60%

No (1)

20%

If you have time (1)

20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 2

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Schelim

Austria11528 Posts

May 31 2013 17:40 GMT

#65

Kas nooo =/ win the final game broski!

Pirat6662001

Russian Federation949 Posts

May 31 2013 17:42 GMT

#66

Kas+Titan need to advance, but i belive in Kas way more vs toss than titans pvp lately

c0sm0naut

United States1229 Posts

May 31 2013 17:42 GMT

#67

that all ins was not a good build from titan

im surprised kas actually lost to a collosus all in on whirlwind

no reason to engage that army, counter attacks would have won him the game. but he was in a tough position from his build anyways. if you are going to go 3 CC gasless, do it, but do it after 1 rax fe, not after cc first, then drop 2 more raxes, THEN take it. its not much faster than taking gasses after those raxes then taking the third... and stim / shields is actually done much quicker

Nebuchad

Switzerland12379 Posts

May 31 2013 17:47 GMT

#68

Feast vs Kas in LB would be twitter-funny actually, hadn't thought of that.

Pirat6662001

Russian Federation949 Posts

May 31 2013 17:53 GMT

#69

Titan is a disgrace. he lost a stalker to a widow mine that his observer saw..... and then proceded to fucking ignore 3!!! medivacs that his observer was on top off.... how horrible can one guy play

Boucot

France15997 Posts

May 31 2013 17:54 GMT

#70

Yaaay !

Lorning

Belgica34432 Posts

May 31 2013 17:55 GMT

#71

Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 3

If you have time (2)

50%

Yes (1)

25%

No (1)

25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 3

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

May 31 2013 17:55 GMT

#72

Poll: Who is going to EU Code B?

Titan (11)

65%

Feast (6)

35%

17 total votes

Your vote: Who is going to EU Code B?

(Vote): Feast
(Vote): Titan

WhurreOdu

Austria1739 Posts

May 31 2013 17:55 GMT

#73

That was one-sided.

Good job Kas.

Schelim

Austria11528 Posts

May 31 2013 17:55 GMT

#74

Kas

Zerg.Zilla

Hungary5029 Posts

May 31 2013 17:57 GMT

#75

Kas what a bawss!

Lorning

Belgica34432 Posts

May 31 2013 17:57 GMT

#76

On June 01 2013 02:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:

Poll: Who is going to EU Code B?

Titan (11)

65%

Feast (6)

35%

17 total votes

Your vote: Who is going to EU Code B?

(Vote): Feast
(Vote): Titan

The one who isn't from Belgium, the land of the bonjwas, ofcourse

Boucot

France15997 Posts

May 31 2013 17:58 GMT

#77

I don't know about TitaN but Feast's PvP is one of the absolute best in Europe. He should be fine I think.

SicPro

United States202 Posts

May 31 2013 17:59 GMT

#78

I really dislike when the casters talk about how a build the player is doing is wrong and how he should've done something else. For instance when he delayed his storm to get out more units and just have the templar there building energy and still have them available for possible feedback if the Terran was to push in and attack.

As a toss I'm gonna take the liberty of speaking for my race and say we've all been there.... you start storm RIGHT away after you get your first few templar and it ends up being a huge 200-200 investment that goes to waste while the terran is stimming his way thru your army.

So less specifically; in a situation where the casters might not necessarily agree or understand what the pro players are doing, to not speak in such absolute terms. Rather than saying a player is doing something wrong, the casters could instead elaborate on the possibilities of the decisions being made. Or at least put it in different terms besides "he forgot storm". That's such an assumption and it annoys me to see those jumps in logic being made as tho they are mind readers. Obviously there ARE moments where mistakes are made and an upgrade is clearly forgotten or a building is made twice, that's not what I'm referring to.

I also wanna point out that I'm a huge fan of Nathanias I think he is a terrific caster. This new (to me) Pengwin guy is doing a nice job as well I hope to see more of him.

On another note I think it speaks volumes of just how easy it is for boosted medivacs to tear apart the protoss between three bases in that deciding 3rd game there. I think the benefits of having speed prisms would be less about harass and more about splitting armies similar to how Terran and Zerg are able to with their very, very fast units (Stim bio, speedlings, speedroaches, mutas, speedvacs) As for Toss all we really have are Phoenix and blink stalkers. Unfortunately blink stalkers and phoenix just cant do the amount of quick and heavy damage comparatively to the other races. Not trying to make this thread into balance discussion, just my thoughts after watching this nice back and forth series.