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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_eu_lr.jpg) Friday, May 31 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger TL Preview: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414637
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) Casters: Nathanias & Pengwin ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) WCS Europe
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/a/a2/Be.png)  Feast vs. ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/b/b9/Pl.png)  uzerStarting map: Star Station![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/2/2b/Ua.png)  Kas vs. ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/f/fb/Ru.png) TitaNStarting map: Akilon Wastes
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(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 2Yes (6) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 2 (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 3Yes (5) 45% No (3) 27% If you have time (3) 27% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 3 (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 1Yes (4) 50% If you have time (3) 38% No (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 1 (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 2Yes (3) 60% No (1) 20% If you have time (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 2 (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 3If you have time (2) 50% Yes (1) 25% No (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 3 (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 1Yes (9) 75% If you have time (2) 17% No (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 1 (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 2Yes (7) 78% No (1) 11% If you have time (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2 (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 3No (1) 100% Yes (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 3 (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 1Yes (6) 86% No (1) 14% If you have time (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 1 (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 2No (2) 50% Yes (1) 25% If you have time (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 2 (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 3Yes (1) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 3 (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match game 1Yes (6) 86% No (1) 14% If you have time (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 1 (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match game 2Yes (7) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 2 (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match game 3Yes (6) 67% If you have time (2) 22% No (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 3 (Vote): Yes
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Poll: HeadKas & Feast (13) 54% Kas & Titan (6) 25% Uzer & Kas (4) 17% Titan & Feast (1) 4% Feast & Uzer (0) 0% Titan & Uzer (0) 0% 24 total votes Your vote: Head (Vote): Kas & Feast
(Vote): Feast & Uzer
(Vote): Uzer & Kas
(Vote): Kas & Titan
(Vote): Titan & Feast
(Vote): Titan & Uzer
Poll: HeartKas & Feast (10) 48% Kas & Titan (6) 29% Uzer & Kas (3) 14% Titan & Feast (1) 5% Titan & Uzer (1) 5% Feast & Uzer (0) 0% 21 total votes Your vote: Heart (Vote): Kas & Feast
(Vote): Feast & Uzer
(Vote): Uzer & Kas
(Vote): Kas & Titan
(Vote): Titan & Feast
(Vote): Titan & Uzer
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On June 01 2013 01:21 Boucot wrote:
Gogo Feast and Kas o/
Yeah, don't disappoint us guys, we want you in Premier !
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Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Kas 80.85% 51.86% 28.99% 11.41% 7.75%
Feast 61.96% 27.12% 34.84% 26.70% 11.34%
TitaN 44.63% 15.92% 28.72% 35.47% 19.90%
uzer 12.56% 5.10% 7.45% 26.42% 61.02%
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If anyone wants to do LR go ahead ^^
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It is my understanding that zerg just can't hold a third vs gateway open, am I wrong?
lol wtf was that?
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That was surprisingly one sided
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Feast man wtf was that -.-"
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Has twitch also been laggy for anyone else these last days?
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Belgica34432 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:32 Enel wrote:
Has twitch also been laggy for anyone else these last days?
Yes, its a picture show for me at the moment...
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On June 01 2013 01:32 Enel wrote:
Has twitch also been laggy for anyone else these last days?
So much I can't watch higher than 360p and it's still laggy
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On June 01 2013 01:33 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 01:32 Enel wrote:
Has twitch also been laggy for anyone else these last days? Yes, its a picture show for me at the moment...
WCS EU has been unwatchable for me and today seems to be even worse than yesterday.
edit: The English stream is unwatchable on evry resolution, but the German one is fine on 480p for me at least.
edit2: The German stream is fine for me on 480p and 1080+ but not on 720. Very strange...
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Poll: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 1Yes (3) 60% No (2) 40% If you have time (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 1 (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Well foreign languages streams perform way better for me, hope you speak another language...
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Belgica34432 Posts
hmm, everything lags for me except 720p, weird
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This Uzer guy seems pretty good.
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Bisutopia19299 Posts
Can feast stop losing to this noob already?
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On June 01 2013 01:37 Heartland wrote:
This Uzer guy seems pretty good.
Difficult to say, that's a very cheesy build
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On June 01 2013 01:38 a3den wrote:Difficult to say, that's a very cheesy build
Sure, but game one looked pretty good too. Always fun to see unknown names
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On June 01 2013 01:40 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 01:38 a3den wrote:On June 01 2013 01:37 Heartland wrote:
This Uzer guy seems pretty good. Difficult to say, that's a very cheesy build Sure, but game one looked pretty good too. Always fun to see unknown names
Feast was very greedy in game one, fail fast DT into fast B3 was definitely not a good idea.
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On June 01 2013 01:33 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 01:32 Enel wrote:
Has twitch also been laggy for anyone else these last days? Yes, its a picture show for me at the moment...
720p doesnt lag :s Maybe it works for u 2 
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Poll: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 2Yes (6) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 2 (Vote): Yes
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On June 01 2013 01:44 Enel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 01:33 Lorning wrote:On June 01 2013 01:32 Enel wrote:
Has twitch also been laggy for anyone else these last days? Yes, its a picture show for me at the moment... 720p doesnt lag :s Maybe it works for u 2
Yeah, 720p is fine for me too :D
Also nice game from Feast
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It's fine for me in 480p.
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long as Kas advances i'll be fine
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anyone knows the german caster? he´s quite entertaining
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Well, it looked good with the early harassment but macro must've slipped a lot. Being on even supply with P after doing all that early damage and being on three base to two..
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On June 01 2013 01:48 Heartland wrote:
Well, it looked good with the early harassment but macro must've slipped a lot. Being on even supply with P after doing all that early damage and being on three base to two..
He didn't do enough damage, that's the point. Feast had more harvesters than uzer after the aggression.
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On June 01 2013 01:50 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 01:48 Heartland wrote:
Well, it looked good with the early harassment but macro must've slipped a lot. Being on even supply with P after doing all that early damage and being on three base to two.. He didn't do enough damage, that's the point. Feast had more harvesters than uzer after the aggression.
Ah, really? Thanks. Would've thought that the tech reset with the forge and Stargate lost would've put Feast further behind.
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On June 01 2013 01:48 Wormi wrote:
anyone knows the german caster? he´s quite entertaining
That´s Mort. But I have not the slightest idea, why he is casting on Taketv now, he used to have an own channel, casting Weeklys.
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On June 01 2013 01:51 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 01:50 Boucot wrote:On June 01 2013 01:48 Heartland wrote:
Well, it looked good with the early harassment but macro must've slipped a lot. Being on even supply with P after doing all that early damage and being on three base to two.. He didn't do enough damage, that's the point. Feast had more harvesters than uzer after the aggression. Ah, really? Thanks. Would've thought that the tech reset with the forge and Stargate lost would've put Feast further behind.
Of course he did some damages but it was a huge commitment. His economy was awful. The only way to win for uzer in this game would have been to kill Feast at the beginning.
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who are the english casters for WCS EU now?
What happened to ToD and Kaelaris.. 
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every day twitch.tv gets worse and worse... now it lags even on 480p resolution
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feast my boy, why do you want to be so greedy ?
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On June 01 2013 01:56 loft wrote:who are the english casters for WCS EU now? What happened to ToD and Kaelaris..
Nathanias and Pengwin, ToD and Kaelaris are only casting Premier League i think
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Poll: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 3Yes (5) 45% No (3) 27% If you have time (3) 27% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Feast vs. uzer game 3 (Vote): Yes
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ok, found the problem.. on twitch.tv page it does not lag at all on 720p+
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Didnt sOs use that build against Soulkey 4 times in GSL and went on to lose all 4 games?
I guess Feast improved the win% of that build by 17%
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what the hell is Titan doing
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Fucking terrible dropes...
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I'm liking these storm drops Titan are doing
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Titan threw this game away
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Wtf is wrong with people today xD My god what a throw TITAN !
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Titan threw this horribly, backing up my claim that no russian will ever win anything in sc2. our pros are just sad in how many basic mistakes they make (to kill that planetary the immortal + 10 zealots would have been enough, why send most of the army leaving collosus and templar unprotected????
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Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 1Yes (4) 50% If you have time (3) 38% No (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 1 (Vote): Yes
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hahaha thank you based Titan
one more game Kas!!!
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On June 01 2013 02:26 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Titan threw this horribly, backing up my claim that no russian will ever win anything in sc2. our pros are just sad in how many basic mistakes they make (to kill that planetary the immortal + 10 zealots would have been enough, why send most of the army leaving collosus and templar unprotected????
because it is titan did you see his games against tzain? he had him 2 times in a row and then he engages into a choke loses everything and ggs, this was a very sad day, it seems like he can't finish off terrans even thouhg he is ahead.
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That was one of the two groups where the eliminated player in the group had a good chance of not being a protoss... We might go 8 for 8 if FireCake pulls a uzer.
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On June 01 2013 02:28 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 02:26 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Titan threw this horribly, backing up my claim that no russian will ever win anything in sc2. our pros are just sad in how many basic mistakes they make (to kill that planetary the immortal + 10 zealots would have been enough, why send most of the army leaving collosus and templar unprotected???? because it is titan did you see his games against tzain? he had him 2 times in a row and then he engages into a choke loses everything and ggs, this was a very sad day, it seems like he can't finish off terrans even thouhg he is ahead.
its not just him- Happy, Brat-Ok, Slivko, Titan, LiveZerg all had multiple chances to do great things, but only thing they could do is choke and waste sponsors money
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But why can't Protoss players just play safe ? First Feast and his dumb builds and now TiTan with the brain fart ..
I just don't get it . xd
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On June 01 2013 02:32 Swiipii wrote:
But why can't Protoss players just play safe ? First Feast and his dumb builds and now TiTan with the brain fart ..
I just don't get it . xd
usualy safe isnt an option, but after kas threw away 50 supply on drops you'd think he'd be comfortable to be safe
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On June 01 2013 02:32 Swiipii wrote:
But why can't Protoss players just play safe ? First Feast and his dumb builds and now TiTan with the brain fart ..
I just don't get it . xd
Titan played as safe as can be... He just mismicroed his army pretty badly. That's completely different to what Feast did.
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On June 01 2013 02:34 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 02:32 Swiipii wrote:
But why can't Protoss players just play safe ? First Feast and his dumb builds and now TiTan with the brain fart ..
I just don't get it . xd Titan played as safe as can be... He just mismicroed his army pretty badly. That's completely different to what Feast did.
Well I'd say getting all your army stuck except your colossus and high templars is a pretty big misstep :d I mean Kas had no SCV's on this base he just stormed all the SCV's with his drop ! Just take a 5th , build up an even bigger army and a+move to victory .
That was just so wierd .
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Come on Kas :/ you have to advance
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Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 2Yes (3) 60% No (1) 20% If you have time (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 2 (Vote): Yes
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Kas nooo =/ win the final game broski!
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Russian Federation949 Posts
Kas+Titan need to advance, but i belive in Kas way more vs toss than titans pvp lately
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that all ins was not a good build from titan
im surprised kas actually lost to a collosus all in on whirlwind
no reason to engage that army, counter attacks would have won him the game. but he was in a tough position from his build anyways. if you are going to go 3 CC gasless, do it, but do it after 1 rax fe, not after cc first, then drop 2 more raxes, THEN take it. its not much faster than taking gasses after those raxes then taking the third... and stim / shields is actually done much quicker
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Feast vs Kas in LB would be twitter-funny actually, hadn't thought of that.
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Titan is a disgrace. he lost a stalker to a widow mine that his observer saw..... and then proceded to fucking ignore 3!!! medivacs that his observer was on top off.... how horrible can one guy play
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Poll: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 3If you have time (2) 50% Yes (1) 25% No (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kas vs. Titan game 3 (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Who is going to EU Code B?Titan (11) 65% Feast (6) 35% 17 total votes Your vote: Who is going to EU Code B? (Vote): Feast
(Vote): Titan
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That was one-sided.
Good job Kas.
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Kas
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On June 01 2013 02:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:Poll: Who is going to EU Code B?Titan (11) 65% Feast (6) 35% 17 total votes Your vote: Who is going to EU Code B? (Vote): Feast
(Vote): Titan
The one who isn't from Belgium, the land of the bonjwas, ofcourse
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I don't know about TitaN but Feast's PvP is one of the absolute best in Europe. He should be fine I think.
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I really dislike when the casters talk about how a build the player is doing is wrong and how he should've done something else. For instance when he delayed his storm to get out more units and just have the templar there building energy and still have them available for possible feedback if the Terran was to push in and attack.
As a toss I'm gonna take the liberty of speaking for my race and say we've all been there.... you start storm RIGHT away after you get your first few templar and it ends up being a huge 200-200 investment that goes to waste while the terran is stimming his way thru your army.
So less specifically; in a situation where the casters might not necessarily agree or understand what the pro players are doing, to not speak in such absolute terms. Rather than saying a player is doing something wrong, the casters could instead elaborate on the possibilities of the decisions being made. Or at least put it in different terms besides "he forgot storm". That's such an assumption and it annoys me to see those jumps in logic being made as tho they are mind readers. Obviously there ARE moments where mistakes are made and an upgrade is clearly forgotten or a building is made twice, that's not what I'm referring to.
I also wanna point out that I'm a huge fan of Nathanias I think he is a terrific caster. This new (to me) Pengwin guy is doing a nice job as well I hope to see more of him.
On another note I think it speaks volumes of just how easy it is for boosted medivacs to tear apart the protoss between three bases in that deciding 3rd game there. I think the benefits of having speed prisms would be less about harass and more about splitting armies similar to how Terran and Zerg are able to with their very, very fast units (Stim bio, speedlings, speedroaches, mutas, speedvacs) As for Toss all we really have are Phoenix and blink stalkers. Unfortunately blink stalkers and phoenix just cant do the amount of quick and heavy damage comparatively to the other races. Not trying to make this thread into balance discussion, just my thoughts after watching this nice back and forth series.
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On June 01 2013 02:58 Boucot wrote:
I don't know about TitaN but Feast's PvP is one of the absolute best in Europe. He should be fine I think.
Pretty much. TitaN is out at this point.
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I'm liking this Pengwin dude
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This will be interesting... uzer is the underdog here but WCS Europe shows that EU Zerg > EU Terran.
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On June 01 2013 02:59 SicPro wrote:
On another note I think it speaks volumes of just how easy it is for boosted medivacs to tear apart the protoss between three bases in that deciding 3rd game there. I think the benefits of having speed prisms would be less about harass and more about splitting armies similar to how Terran and Zerg are able to with their very, very fast units (Stim bio, speedlings, speedroaches, mutas, speedvacs) As for Toss all we really have are Phoenix and blink stalkers. Unfortunately blink stalkers and phoenix just cant do the amount of quick and heavy damage comparatively to the other races. Not trying to make this thread into balance discussion, just my thoughts after watching this nice back and forth series.
TiTan should have raped Kas in the first game, he countered all the drops pretty easily . In the third game he saw 3 medivacs with his observer but did nothing to counter them . I really fail to see how medivac drops can be blame in this particular series .
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uzer likes to make spores
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Damn. I'm rooting for Kas, but Uzer is playing so good.
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Impressive by uzer, he's even using contaminate
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On June 01 2013 03:17 Sent. wrote:
uzer likes to make spores
I wasnt watching most of the game but did he do the same thing that viOLet did yesterday vs MajOr on this map? Make like 15 spores to deny drops?
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wow really bad game from kas, didn't look like him at all.
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I am never heard of Uzer before, but he is doing amazingly well today!
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Akilon a zerg favored map ?
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Wow, just wow. Those spores paid off 100%. Nice game.
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On June 01 2013 03:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:I wasnt watching most of the game but did he do the same thing that viOLet did yesterday vs MajOr on this map? Make like 15 spores to deny drops?
Where did they play?
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 1Yes (9) 75% If you have time (2) 17% No (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 1 (Vote): Yes
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So are Zergs still complaining about balance and OP Terran?
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On June 01 2013 03:20 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 01 2013 03:17 Sent. wrote:
uzer likes to make spores I wasnt watching most of the game but did he do the same thing that viOLet did yesterday vs MajOr on this map? Make like 15 spores to deny drops? Where did they play?
WCS America Challenger Ro16
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On June 01 2013 03:08 scypio wrote:
This will be interesting... uzer is the underdog here but WCS Europe shows that EU Zerg > EU Terran.
Zerg is doing better and better against terrans everywhere, I'd say Flash and Innovation are the only exceptions right now. Reminding us terrans that it's a l2p issue. 
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On June 01 2013 03:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:I wasnt watching most of the game but did he do the same thing that viOLet did yesterday vs MajOr on this map? Make like 15 spores to deny drops?
He had like 7 spores at his 3rd base
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On June 01 2013 03:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:20 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 03:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 01 2013 03:17 Sent. wrote:
uzer likes to make spores I wasnt watching most of the game but did he do the same thing that viOLet did yesterday vs MajOr on this map? Make like 15 spores to deny drops? Where did they play? WCS America Challenger Ro16
Thank you.
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Kas is so dead.
Edit: Or not. O.o
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On June 01 2013 03:20 Kyaaaaa wrote:
So are Zergs still complaining about balance and OP Terran?
According to ladder I should kill myself for playing this terribly broken OP race.
Matchup seems pretty balanced though.
EDIT: That did ALOT more damage then I expected, well done by Uzer.
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Make a freakin tank Kas! =(
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On June 01 2013 03:02 Lorning wrote:
I'm liking this Pengwin dude
I don't see how anyone could NOT like him
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Kas you gotta win so titan can also get out of the group >.>
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On June 01 2013 03:29 ssxsilver wrote:
Make a freakin tank Kas! =(
Nobody gets a tank that early though, there weren't even any banes in the composition.
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That was some nice execution from uzer
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It took symbol a few months but Zerg's finally bow to him as their lord and mentor in the ways of the Roach and the Nydus.
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Really nice play by Uzer.
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If Kas had stim I could see him make a comeback, but this seems really tough for him right now.
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Your video seems to be stuttering. You don't say, twitch.
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Do these casters even know what they're talking about? Uzer is not SUPER ahead.
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On June 01 2013 03:35 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Do these casters even know what they're talking about? Uzer is not SUPER ahead.
They're not saying he is...
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On June 01 2013 03:35 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Do these casters even know what they're talking about? Uzer is not SUPER ahead.
They aren't saying he is ahead.
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Holy shit that engagement...
Roach/hydra/infestor bretty gud?
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Kas sending all his army to kill an ovie putting him out of position .. Mkay .
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 2Yes (7) 78% No (1) 11% If you have time (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2 (Vote): Yes
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Terrible game. Almost comes back then get caught out of pos. Sigh.
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One of the better challenger league games I've seen. Very impressive play!
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On June 01 2013 03:38 Bagi wrote:
Holy shit that engagement...
Roach/hydra/infestor bretty gud?
Going up ramps against concaves and fungals bretty baddd...
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I lost my liquibet but I'm happy. Go uzer!!!
XD!
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Russian Federation949 Posts
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling //////
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O...M....G... that last attack. Kas was impressed.
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Oh, wow. Uzer won there. Unexpected, at least for me.
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Wow nice comp there, I liked it.
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Horrible positioning by Kas. He kinda gave up after losing that cc. Fighting without tanks is never a good idea. :/
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Attack with Hydras, keep attacking Refinery with Roaches, win the game...
Great skill toi have!
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GG uzer, see you in Premier. Congrats!
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Userek deserved winner! gg
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On June 01 2013 03:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling //////
But was he really there to kill the OL? I think it was because he wanted to go and siege up the fourth.
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oh boy.. was expecting an easy 4-0 for kas.. now the major underdog is through.. -____-
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On June 01 2013 03:40 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling ////// But was he really there to kill the OL? I think it was because he wanted to go and siege up the fourth.
No not really he even load up two medivacs and then just sat here ..
Anyway gogo Feast !!!
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Those fungals on the ramp made so much difference in that battle! The marines could all get killed without the tanks interfering too much!
Congrats to Uzer!
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A bit shocked. Gratz Uzer!!
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On June 01 2013 03:40 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling ////// But was he really there to kill the OL? I think it was because he wanted to go and siege up the fourth.
leaving his 3rd wide open after being behind???? when is that a good idea. until you know exactly where oponents army is (stim 5-6 marines in different directions) why the fuck would you move out with that comp
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gogo Feast, we need Kas vs Feast o/
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Terrible games hope Kas gets eliminated...C'mon Feast time to make a comeback!
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On June 01 2013 03:41 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:40 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 03:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling ////// But was he really there to kill the OL? I think it was because he wanted to go and siege up the fourth. leaving his 3rd wide open after being behind???? when is that a good idea. until you know exactly where oponents army is (stim 5-6 marines in different directions) why the fuck would you move out with that comp
Well, he was going MMMT that is looks like a pretty good counter to roach hydra. It was pretty reasonable to move out. Unfortunately for Kas uzer built infestors and landed every fungal, turning the odds into his favor.
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On June 01 2013 03:44 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:41 Pirat6662001 wrote:On June 01 2013 03:40 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 03:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling ////// But was he really there to kill the OL? I think it was because he wanted to go and siege up the fourth. leaving his 3rd wide open after being behind???? when is that a good idea. until you know exactly where oponents army is (stim 5-6 marines in different directions) why the fuck would you move out with that comp Well, he was going MMMT that is looks like a pretty good counter to roach hydra. It was pretty reasonable to move out. Unfortunately for Kas uzer built infestors and landed every fungal, turning the odds into his favor.
it wasnt reasonable with out knowing where oponents army is. look at code s games, they always scan/scout before moving out like that
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On June 01 2013 03:48 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 03:44 scypio wrote:On June 01 2013 03:41 Pirat6662001 wrote:On June 01 2013 03:40 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 03:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
WHo can explain to me why more than 5-6 marines need to be sent to destroy a freaking overlord..../ SOmetimes decision making by these "pro" outside of Korea is puzzling ////// But was he really there to kill the OL? I think it was because he wanted to go and siege up the fourth. leaving his 3rd wide open after being behind???? when is that a good idea. until you know exactly where oponents army is (stim 5-6 marines in different directions) why the fuck would you move out with that comp Well, he was going MMMT that is looks like a pretty good counter to roach hydra. It was pretty reasonable to move out. Unfortunately for Kas uzer built infestors and landed every fungal, turning the odds into his favor. it wasnt reasonable with out knowing where oponents army is. look at code s games, they always scan/scout before moving out like that
Yeah, this is WCS EU Challanger and not Code S, clearly some differences will show. Kas built the sensor tower to feel safe from that kind of runby... it just did not work.
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Feast is playing really bad today.
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Feast 1 game away from elimination...
Bring it back please!
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another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season
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On June 01 2013 04:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season
Just like GSL. Nothing new.
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Why cant they say RoxKis right?
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On June 01 2013 04:01 a3den wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season Just like GSL. Nothing new.
If you go out in round of 16 Code S you can't drop out of Code A the same season.
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On June 01 2013 04:01 a3den wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season Just like GSL. Nothing new.
If you drop out of the RO16 you got to the RO24, if you lose in the up and downs then you still go to code A. Bizarrely brutal to those who did well prior yet forgiving of those who fail early I don't really like that.
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Lots of cool micro and positioning in these games
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Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ?
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Well.. that was unexpected.
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What the hell is Feast doing today !?
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Oh Feast
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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From one map off the top 8 to out of the entire tournament. Yikes feast cannot be happy.
Oh well he can easily requalify he's too good to linger in code B.
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On June 01 2013 04:11 Godwrath wrote:
Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ?
1: No-one knows.
2: No, not really. He appeared to lose a lot of advantages and made some micro mistakes. But he did go out first, so..
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haha, perfect timing. just came back from washing my hair.
Kas hwaiting!!!
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On June 01 2013 04:12 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:11 Godwrath wrote:
Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ? 1: No-one knows. 2: No, not really. He appeared to lose a lot of advantages and made some micro mistakes. But he did go out first, so..
Uzer did beat MC in the WCS EU Quali (2-3 weeks ago).
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On June 01 2013 04:14 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:12 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 04:11 Godwrath wrote:
Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ? 1: No-one knows. 2: No, not really. He appeared to lose a lot of advantages and made some micro mistakes. But he did go out first, so.. Uzer did beat MC in the WCS EU Quali (2-3 weeks ago).
Awesome! So, who makes his fanclub? : P
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On June 01 2013 04:16 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:14 Dingodile wrote:On June 01 2013 04:12 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 04:11 Godwrath wrote:
Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ? 1: No-one knows. 2: No, not really. He appeared to lose a lot of advantages and made some micro mistakes. But he did go out first, so.. Uzer did beat MC in the WCS EU Quali (2-3 weeks ago). Awesome! So, who makes his fanclub? : P
I nominate fuzer.
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is uzer the new polish Zerg bonjwa????
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On June 01 2013 04:17 Schelim wrote:
is uzer the new polish Zerg bonjwa????
I'd say he's the best RTS player in the history of RTS
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On June 01 2013 04:12 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:11 Godwrath wrote:
Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ? 1: No-one knows. 2: No, not really. He appeared to lose a lot of advantages and made some micro mistakes. But he did go out first, so..
Uzer did not get the memo stating that roach/hydra and the nerfed infestor are all worthless. Hi refused to tech up or play 4+ base macro games but put on some aggression instead with the "wrong" units.
He dealt pretty nice with drops, hellion-reaper harassment etc. Also, he managed to transition out of a semi-failed roach-bust into roach-nydus all-in in final game vs Kas.
Pretty good games overall, but not that spectacular.
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On June 01 2013 04:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:16 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 04:14 Dingodile wrote:On June 01 2013 04:12 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 04:11 Godwrath wrote:
Who the hell is uzer ? Were he that dominant in the games as the result may tell ? 1: No-one knows. 2: No, not really. He appeared to lose a lot of advantages and made some micro mistakes. But he did go out first, so.. Uzer did beat MC in the WCS EU Quali (2-3 weeks ago). Awesome! So, who makes his fanclub? : P I nominate fuzer.
Uzer probably is a troll account of fuzer.
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On June 01 2013 04:17 Lorning wrote:I'd say he's the best RTS player in the history of RTS
new Mouz recruit ? :p
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On June 01 2013 04:17 Lorning wrote:I'd say he's the best RTS player in the history of RTS
i don't know, Tasteless, he very well may be. ask me a question.
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On June 01 2013 04:01 a3den wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season Just like GSL. Nothing new.
the only way you can go from Code S to Code B in the GSL in the same season is if you get 4th in your Ro32 group
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On June 01 2013 04:21 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:17 Lorning wrote:On June 01 2013 04:17 Schelim wrote:
is uzer the new polish Zerg bonjwa???? I'd say he's the best RTS player in the history of RTS i don't know, Tasteless, he very well may be. ask me a question.
What's your favourite movie?
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Shit, Kas isn't through yet? Good timing then - GOGO KAAAAS!!!  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hfq8P.png)
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oh no, feast out
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On June 01 2013 04:27 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:21 Schelim wrote:On June 01 2013 04:17 Lorning wrote:On June 01 2013 04:17 Schelim wrote:
is uzer the new polish Zerg bonjwa???? I'd say he's the best RTS player in the history of RTS i don't know, Tasteless, he very well may be. ask me a question. What's your favourite movie?
my favorite movie... hmm... i 'll have to think about that one for a while. in the meantime, these guys are still just doing some standard stuff, so... Tasteless, why don't you tell me what YOUR favorite movie is?
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On June 01 2013 04:31 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:27 Heartland wrote:On June 01 2013 04:21 Schelim wrote:On June 01 2013 04:17 Lorning wrote:On June 01 2013 04:17 Schelim wrote:
is uzer the new polish Zerg bonjwa???? I'd say he's the best RTS player in the history of RTS i don't know, Tasteless, he very well may be. ask me a question. What's your favourite movie? my favorite movie... hmm... i 'll have to think about that one for a while. in the meantime, these guys are still just doing some standard stuff, so... Tasteless, why don't you tell me what YOUR favorite movie is?
Uhm.. I just saw Ghost in the Shell again, that's such a GREAT movie! If you nerds out there haven't seen it you gotta go out and rent it RIGHT NOW. But yeah, looks like Kas is moving out a bit on the map here... OH SHIT
Edit: That came out wrong. OH SHIT should just be Tasteless screaming, wordlessly.
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Idk why, but graphics looks very good, is it very high fps or something?
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That lost mothership core like sums up all of titans play- sloppy.....
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Push it all the way through the net!!!
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Titan gg'ed on cyrilic, that's the man!
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Domination
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i just listened to the stream without watching it and for a second thought Mr Bitter was casting when Nathanias started talking
mind=blown O_O
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On June 01 2013 04:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:01 a3den wrote:On June 01 2013 04:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season Just like GSL. Nothing new. the only way you can go from Code S to Code B in the GSL in the same season is if you get 4th in your Ro32 group
I see what you mean, but OTOH in this system you have to lose FIVE BO3s to go from Premier to being out (2 in Premier group, 1 in Challenger brackets, and 2 in Challenger groups). The best performance that still eliminates you:
2-1 (5-2) in Premier RO32
1-2 (4-4) in Premier RO16
0-1 (1-2) in Challenger Bracket
0-2 (2-4) in Challenger groups
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3-5 (12-12)
Hm ok now that I typed that out it's not such a bad performance overall, but still it's based on many matches.
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On June 01 2013 04:42 Schelim wrote:
i just listened to the stream without watching it and for a second thought Mr Bitter was casting when Nathanias started talking
mind=blown O_O
voice of bitter, face of frodo
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On June 01 2013 04:43 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:42 Schelim wrote:
i just listened to the stream without watching it and for a second thought Mr Bitter was casting when Nathanias started talking
mind=blown O_O voice of bitter, face of frodo
I think he sort of looks like a cartoon bear
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On June 01 2013 04:44 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:43 nkr wrote:On June 01 2013 04:42 Schelim wrote:
i just listened to the stream without watching it and for a second thought Mr Bitter was casting when Nathanias started talking
mind=blown O_O voice of bitter, face of frodo I think he sort of looks like a cartoon bear
John Belushi
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Anyone know about uzer? I've never heard of him before. Good breakout performance I guess.
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Damn oracle shenanigans. >:[
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If titan had flat out killed the 4 marines that were out at that time, he would probably have ended the game right there.... -.-
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On June 01 2013 04:42 Schelim wrote:
i just listened to the stream without watching it and for a second thought Mr Bitter was casting when Nathanias started talking
mind=blown O_O Hahaha that happened to me too when I opened the stream.
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On June 01 2013 04:43 KillerDucky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 01 2013 04:01 a3den wrote:On June 01 2013 04:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
another thing i dont like about the WCS EU/AM format I dont like that we could be seeing here is that Feast can go from Ro16 Premier to Code B in the same season Just like GSL. Nothing new. the only way you can go from Code S to Code B in the GSL in the same season is if you get 4th in your Ro32 group I see what you mean, but OTOH in this system you have to lose FIVE BO3s to go from Premier to being out (2 in Premier group, 1 in Challenger brackets, and 2 in Challenger groups). The best performance that still eliminates you: 2-1 (5-2) in Premier RO32 1-2 (4-4) in Premier RO16 0-1 (1-2) in Challenger Bracket 0-2 (2-4) in Challenger groups === 3-5 (12-12) Hm ok now that I typed that out it's not such a bad performance overall, but still it's based on many matches.
Well, in GSL format you have to lose every set you play to go out from code S. This system is just weird and only punishes failure at certain times.
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Reverse domination :/ C'mon Kas!!
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please Kas. don't do this to me. win this shit.
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On June 01 2013 04:51 Weavel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 04:42 Schelim wrote:
i just listened to the stream without watching it and for a second thought Mr Bitter was casting when Nathanias started talking
mind=blown O_O Hahaha that happened to me too when I opened the stream.
I don't know, KEV!
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I loved what Titan did, beautiful opener into great transition versus a 3 cc build.
I also hope we get to see more of revelation, love that spell.
edit:
Holy shit does Nathanias sound like Bitter. I mean its not just the voice, its everything about his voice, how he speaks etc. Damn!
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Aww man. Don't be a heartbreaker Kas! Finish this!
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On June 01 2013 04:57 crappen wrote:
I loved what Titan did, beautiful opener into great transition versus a 3 cc build.
I also hope we get to see more of revelation, love that spell.
Not really sure what else to say other than I agree. So, I agree. Good plan from Titan. Want to see more revelation.
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I can't imagine a PL without Kas. He has to win this
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That was a perfect opportunity to recall
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Time to go all in, Kas. Balls to the wall.
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go in and kill the robo kas!
well, that does not look promising..
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Wow, that was called way too early... This is far from over.
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Clutch lazor tower spawn :/
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I was really getting worried there, go Titan!
Edit: damn, that medivac was so close to dying :F
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Poor Kas, he just can't catch a break.
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Too bad Kas didn't target the probes with his widow mine. His attack would have gone much better.
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On June 01 2013 05:10 garbanzo wrote:
Too bad Kas didn't target the probes with his widow mine. His attack would have gone much better.
Yeah, this might have lost him this game... Titan bringing on the heartbreak.
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titan is confusing me, i guess he waited way too long
e:no
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No Kas  Oh well, Titan is a cool guy. wp
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hmmm I thought that Kas and Feast would easily go through, what a fail LB vote TT
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On June 01 2013 05:10 garbanzo wrote:
Too bad Kas didn't target the probes with his widow mine. His attack would have gone much better.
But the probes were already on Kas's army so if the widow mine targeted the probes then it would have done splash damage to Kas's army too.
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ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho.
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Well deserved Titan. Sad for me as a Kas fan =(...
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I hope Titan can get into his last year shape and do really well at premier league.
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I don't get, what happened to Kas, he's so instable during last few month...He's like european version of Bomber :/
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Kas noooooooooooooooooooooo =((
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who is uzer? the guy i've never heard of making it out in first.
impressive
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On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho.
Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT.
Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day.
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Sad evening
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Kas so unstable. Thats why best player in  was and will is DIMAGAA!.
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On June 01 2013 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho. Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT. Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day.
Yeah, we got 8 terrans in PL now but half of them are Koreans. If you count them out (+TAILS) you can take a snapshot at the eu scene:
4T, 7P, 10Z... yuck, this does have some WoL-ish feel. I'd like to see at least 3 out of the four remaining terrans making it through to PL (Thorzain, Bunny, DarkHydra, Krass). I think it's doable.
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On June 01 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho. Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT. Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day. Yeah, we got 8 terrans in PL now but half of them are Koreans. If you count them out (+TAILS) you can take a snapshot at the eu scene: 4T, 7P, 10Z... yuck, this does have some WoL-ish feel. I'd like to see at least 3 out of the four remaining terrans making it through to PL (Thorzain, Bunny, DarkHydra, Krass). I think it's doable.
DarkHydra has to compete with MC and Nerchio, I see his chances being at near zero to make it out over them. I could see one of Bunny/Krass (as they are in the same group and with a pretty good Korean toss) and then Thorzain.
I see 1, most likely 2. Which is kind of sad, I thought Kas was a shoe in.
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On June 01 2013 05:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:On June 01 2013 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho. Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT. Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day. Yeah, we got 8 terrans in PL now but half of them are Koreans. If you count them out (+TAILS) you can take a snapshot at the eu scene: 4T, 7P, 10Z... yuck, this does have some WoL-ish feel. I'd like to see at least 3 out of the four remaining terrans making it through to PL (Thorzain, Bunny, DarkHydra, Krass). I think it's doable. DarkHydra has to compete with MC and Nerchio, I see his chances being at near zero to make it out over them. I could see one of Bunny/Krass (as they are in the same group and with a pretty good Korean toss) and then Thorzain. I see 1, most likely 2. Which is kind of sad, I thought Kas was a shoe in.
Neither MC nor Nerchio is looking all that hot, DarkHydra may pull an upset. Also Tails is beatable, just look how many tries he had to take to get into CL.
I hope we'll get a fair share of eu T.
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On June 01 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho. Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT. Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day. Yeah, we got 8 terrans in PL now but half of them are Koreans. If you count them out [...]
I'm not ready to count them out, they occupy a spot. If they weren't here, who is to say that other european terrans wouldn't have taken these missing spots? Strelok was close, Kas was close... You can't just take that number of "4" and leave it at that, as if the other terrans were far behind and never had any chance.
I always think race distribution is more important than nationality, but you seem to disagree given your last post.
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On June 01 2013 05:49 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:On June 01 2013 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho. Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT. Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day. Yeah, we got 8 terrans in PL now but half of them are Koreans. If you count them out [...] I'm not ready to count them out, they occupy a spot. If they weren't here, who is to say that other european terrans wouldn't have taken these missing spots? Strelok was close, Kas was close... You can't just take that number of "4" and leave it at that, as if the other terrans were far behind and never had any chance. I always think race distribution is more important than nationality, but you seem to disagree given your last post.
European terran is vastly underrepresented within the PL... and if the last remaining spots are taken by 3T, 2P and 1Z we'll get a perfect 11/11/10 split. So having 3 T's advance is good both for the EU scene and the total balance of RO32.
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On June 01 2013 05:46 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 05:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 01 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:On June 01 2013 05:19 Nebuchad wrote:On June 01 2013 05:13 govie wrote:ohboy... local hero upsets an emperor.. times change gratz titan (he looked really good in the qualifiers for premier btw), to bad to loose another terran tho. Up to 8 now, and we know that Bunny doesn't feel like losing to protoss in HotS, so he should be 9th; also I expect at least one of the others, probably Thorzain, to make it as well... Terran will be fine, around 10 of 32, a nice balanced number. But yeah I did expect Kas to get through, uzer showed surprisingly good ZvT. Also this is the moment when we don't hear a pip anymore out of this russian Pirat guy who seems to get off on criticizing russian players every time... A great moment to have in a day. Yeah, we got 8 terrans in PL now but half of them are Koreans. If you count them out (+TAILS) you can take a snapshot at the eu scene: 4T, 7P, 10Z... yuck, this does have some WoL-ish feel. I'd like to see at least 3 out of the four remaining terrans making it through to PL (Thorzain, Bunny, DarkHydra, Krass). I think it's doable. DarkHydra has to compete with MC and Nerchio, I see his chances being at near zero to make it out over them. I could see one of Bunny/Krass (as they are in the same group and with a pretty good Korean toss) and then Thorzain. I see 1, most likely 2. Which is kind of sad, I thought Kas was a shoe in. Neither MC nor Nerchio is looking all that hot, DarkHydra may pull an upset. Also Tails is beatable, just look how many tries he had to take to get into CL. I hope we'll get a fair share of eu T.
Maybe I'm just not familiar enough with DarkHydra but I still see both Nerchio and MC miles ahead of him even in their "less hot" forms.
EDIT: In fact MC 2-0'd DarkHydra to get into the Challenger League in the first place (semifinals of one of the qualifiers)
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terran op
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Wow, congrats to Uzer. What an upset
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Feast got a pretty raw deal here. Qualified for Premier out of like 4000 players, made the ro16 and lost 1-2, 1-2. Then lost the last round of Challenger 1-2, and then drops out of WCS alltogether
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Noooooooo, Kas T_T
Still, yaaaaay, TitaN!
Only he'll probaly choke horribly again in the Ro32.
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