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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#681
lol.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#682
Ah damnit Tear
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 12:44:43
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#683
On May 30 2013 21:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:36 Godwrath wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:30 Godwrath wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:26 Clazziquai10 wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
You know what, I agree guys. This two year old build is overpowered which is why it's almost never done in PvT and fell out of favour rapidly after mid 2011 in PvZ.


Except that protoss didn't have nexus cannon in 2011.


So if terran does fuck up like that they actually deserve to win the game by counterattacking and flying their buildings to a corner?


What fuck up ? Having his whole army in front ? Not scouting a drop is mostly about luck for terran.

It's a silly build, a complete gamble tho.


Not scouting. Protoss loses the game if they don't know what's going on. Zerg loses the game if they don't know. Terran should lose too.


Oh yes please, tell me how he should had scouted that a sentry drop was coming that doesn't look like other thousand builds.


Using that energy thing on one of your CCs that gives you scouting information. If you see a robo and 7 gates it's not an immortal all in, you can't afford that. Can only be one thing.


Learn 2 hide production/tech in big surface bases like whirlwind.
Profit.

Edit - do you see your logic mirror'ed ?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#684
Sick Infinite Tiebreaker City
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#685
OMG
HAHA AWESOME DAY
MKP gogo finally, 2-0 these fuckers
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#686
DANGIT
uanmor
are you evolving?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#687
Tie breakers forever!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#688
Fiiirst~
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#689
This is crazy.. 2nd set of tie-breakers wow. Stamina is going to start to be a factor at this point.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#690
LOL STILL STARCRAFT WHEN I GET BACK


AWWWW YEAAAHHHH. Gogo First/MKP!
Long live the King of Wings
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10107 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#691
Now back to MKP vs Hurricane, right ?
YpnotiS
Profile Joined March 2011
France163 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#692
MORE suspense
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#693
yay~ now if First doesn't fail at beating MKP the next tie-breaker should be both protoss going through
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#694
On May 30 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
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On May 30 2013 21:39 Brett wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:27 eGoRama wrote:
The crying is just unbelievable cause of one game, and ofc cause this is MKP. If this was Bang it would be - ermm, okay, he lost to timing and was unprepared


The discussion is because of the proposed Warp Prism buff. If that wasn't on the table no one would be saying anything.


In this situation it really doesn't matter. If you have no idea that it's coming you're not gonna stop it, whether the prism has speed or not. Taking this game as a serious argument against the speed buff is not very intelligent.


It's just an example of the larger argument.

The problem with buffing the Warp Prism the way Blizzard is suggesting is that it buffs gimmicky Protoss all in play way more than it helps them in standard play the way they would like.

Blizzard wants to buff Protoss slightly and in a way that makes them more exciting to watch. I'm all for that. Buffing them in a way that promotes more 1-2 base all ins is not the right way do that.


Well, that's something that their balance testing will have to show. This game however really shouldn't matter in that argument.


It definitely should matter, but as with every balance discussion, one game doesn't decide anything.

I'm of the opinion that if they implemented the Warp Prism buff we'd just end up seeing a lot more games like Hurricane/Marineking which might bring Protoss overall win rates up but doesn't actually solve any of the other major issues with the race and definitely doesn't make them more fun to watch.

In other words, I see it as just more Soul Train style balancing.

You can see those games without the prism buff. We just did. The prism speed has little to no particular effect on that specific build. It is therefore not evidence for or against that change.


Brett, you said you give up on this :D

I know... I must be somewhat masochistic -_-
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#695
I'll be honest, I missed these days :D

Wasn't there a triple tie breaker this year in U&D?
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16032 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#696
What would be hilarious is if we had a third tie breaker but the second round looked like MKP > Hurricane > First > MKP
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#697
On May 30 2013 21:40 opterown wrote:
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On May 30 2013 21:39 Dodgin wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:34 Dodgin wrote:
first how could you lose to mkp twice I almost hope you lose now ;/

saying that as if it's shameful to lose to MKP TvP, even in his slump mkp can still play it solidly


losing to prime players is shameful regardless of the circumstances

such bad manner, dodgin


I'm mostly joking, It's not shameful, but It's kind of bad to be losing to players who don't have a good training environment. I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#698
There is still hope MKP will stay in Challenger
"Energy never dies..."
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
May 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#699
No breaks now, battle of attrition.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 30 2013 12:47 GMT
#700
time to play hardcore turtle mech into bc/ghost mass nukes 2 hour game Byun style imo
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