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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:26 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:23 lichter wrote:On May 29 2013 22:22 silentsaint wrote:On May 29 2013 22:17 ZenithM wrote:On May 29 2013 22:15 edgeOut wrote:On May 29 2013 22:10 eGoRama wrote:
I think that Bogus is more micro oriented player than Innovation, but I am not sure. Anyone who can confirm that? Bogus also played micro and multitasking style just like Innovation plays. That's why Bogus's best matchup is also TvZ just like Innovation. TvZ in BW is very similar to TvZ in SC2, especially HotS, so Innovation can easily transfer Bogus's skills in BW to HotS. I'm confused by this. How does one transfer some other player's skills? Best you can do is try to mimic :/ He ate him. Like Kirby... SUCK IN!! PRESS DOWN! Kaboom Baby! And thus Innovation came into existence. It can be said that Innovation is the Bogus of our time. Didn't you hear? Innovation is god therefore he is resurrected Flash Then, is the Flash guy we have now... BOGUS IN DISGUISE?
Flash is a cyborg from the future, sent to destroy Innovation before he brings about the apocalypse
Am I the only one who read the newsletter?
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On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players
that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy
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Tony Parker is pretty good this year, he plays like Innovation right now, all over the place with the multitasking and the drop shots. Both in Finals, hope they both win.
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On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy
You mean sOs and sHy?
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Austria24422 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:35 eGoRama wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy You mean sOs and sHy?
Oh, I was wondering why sOs didn't get any credit.
Wait, are you saying that Bogus is sOs?
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy
On May 29 2013 22:18 opterown wrote:
poor guy, he probably meant to type something like "rain, bogus and shy" but ended up with innovation instead and we're just jumping him for it
yeah i know, it was just amusing, haha
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:35 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy You mean sOs and sHy? Oh, I was wondering why sOs didn't get any credit. Wait, are you saying that Bogus is sOs?
No no, sOs is Stats while Carno is sHy
or...
Well either way they are both better than Bisu
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On May 29 2013 22:26 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:19 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. Okay, so if I punched you in the face and you fought back, you'd be the one who started the fight because it takes two people to have a fight. I realize that this analogy isn't perfect, but it should suffice for communicating why I think you're wrong. That's a terrible analogy. It'd be more like one drunk kid running into an AA meeting and yelling nonsense. Then most of the meeting decides to get drunk and yell about how stupid the kid is. I fail to see how it's a terrible analogy. Its bottom line is so simplistic I'm surprised you missed it.
And you say I fail at logic... equating seeing one troll post on a forum to being hit in the face is just ridiculous. If you go out of your way to tell a crazy person about how their opinion is idiotic when you could easily ignore it, then yes, you're responsible for the ensuing conflict.
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On May 29 2013 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. Okay, so if I punched you in the face and you fought back, you'd be the one who started the fight because it takes two people to have a fight. I realize that this analogy isn't perfect, but it should suffice for communicating why I think you're wrong.
The fact that you cannot even come up with a proper analogy is evidence that you shouldn't be trying to counter argue. Punching somebody in the face is physical harm that can lead to injury which is why it cannot be ignored and will result in self defense (hence me punch you back). You don't receive physical harm by ignoring a post online. I cannot believe you actually attempted to compare the two.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:39 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 29 2013 22:35 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy You mean sOs and sHy? Oh, I was wondering why sOs didn't get any credit. Wait, are you saying that Bogus is sOs? No no, sOs is Stats while Carno is sHy or... Well either way they are both better than Bisu
That's low dude
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On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy
I hear you :/
Innovation was doing even worse in BW than the guys you mention anyway.
Some say that's why he switched to SC2 very early on, under the nickname PartinG (and kept playing Protoss, obviously), then came back on Kespa's side as the Ro8-material beast that he is now.
God Innovation is so good...
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:43 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:39 lichter wrote:On May 29 2013 22:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 29 2013 22:35 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy You mean sOs and sHy? Oh, I was wondering why sOs didn't get any credit. Wait, are you saying that Bogus is sOs? No no, sOs is Stats while Carno is sHy or... Well either way they are both better than Bisu That's low dude
Never an opportunity to insult Bisu is missed :D
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this thread has been won. let's all drink 
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On May 29 2013 22:45 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:43 Zealously wrote:On May 29 2013 22:39 lichter wrote:On May 29 2013 22:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 29 2013 22:35 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 22:32 pylonsalad wrote:On May 29 2013 22:04 opterown wrote:
for someone who professes to follow the BW scene i'm surprised you think bogus and innovation are different players that was a brain fart/typo. I meant to say bogus and shy You mean sOs and sHy? Oh, I was wondering why sOs didn't get any credit. Wait, are you saying that Bogus is sOs? No no, sOs is Stats while Carno is sHy or... Well either way they are both better than Bisu That's low dude Never an opportunity to insult Bisu is missed :D
Lol this is ultra fun :D
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On May 29 2013 22:47 largehadroncollider wrote:this thread has been won. let's all drink
Not really, we're just making awkward light-hearted jokes to cover the eSF vs Kespa debacle. In fact it's just Denial, the first of the Five Stages of Grief.
I'll skip right ahead of you guys and go straight to Acceptance:
KESPAAAAAAAA!!!!111111
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On May 29 2013 22:39 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:26 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 22:19 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:
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So?
Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. Okay, so if I punched you in the face and you fought back, you'd be the one who started the fight because it takes two people to have a fight. I realize that this analogy isn't perfect, but it should suffice for communicating why I think you're wrong. That's a terrible analogy. It'd be more like one drunk kid running into an AA meeting and yelling nonsense. Then most of the meeting decides to get drunk and yell about how stupid the kid is. I fail to see how it's a terrible analogy. Its bottom line is so simplistic I'm surprised you missed it. And you say I fail at logic... equating seeing one troll post on a forum to being hit in the face is just ridiculous. If you go out of your way to tell a crazy person about how their opinion is idiotic when you could easily ignore it, then yes, you're responsible for the ensuing conflict.
You're still missing it.
The bottom line was that just as it takes two people to argue, it takes two people to fight, and to blame retaliator for starting everything is ridiculous. People like BlazeFury and you are parts of the problem because between
a. Asshats doing shit posting
and
b. People who just want to enjoy games but are sick of seeing shit posting and thus respond in hopes of drawing attention to the displeasure the original shit posting causes
you'd rather blame b rather than a for the whole mess. Your philosophy seems to be that if you ignore shit posters, they'll go away, but in my experience on forums, that's never really been the case. It's better to respond to them to draw even more attention to the problem so eventually something will actually be done about it. If no one voices their displeasure then everyone gets complacent and nothing changes.
On May 29 2013 22:42 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. Okay, so if I punched you in the face and you fought back, you'd be the one who started the fight because it takes two people to have a fight. I realize that this analogy isn't perfect, but it should suffice for communicating why I think you're wrong. The fact that you cannot even come up with a proper analogy is evidence that you shouldn't be trying to counter argue. Punching somebody in the face is physical harm that can lead to injury which is why it cannot be ignored and will result in self defense (hence me punch you back). You don't receive physical harm by ignoring a post online. I cannot believe you actually attempted to compare the two.
Wrong. You can ignore it by running away, instead of fighting back. But that aside, the funny thing is that I anticipated exactly this sort of response from you, hence my personal acknowledgment of how my analogy is hardly perfect. But like I said, it's enough to communicate my issue with how somehow "it takes two people to argue" is your justification for blaming the responding party rather than the party being responded to.
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On May 29 2013 22:50 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:39 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 22:26 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 22:19 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:
[quote]
The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. Okay, so if I punched you in the face and you fought back, you'd be the one who started the fight because it takes two people to have a fight. I realize that this analogy isn't perfect, but it should suffice for communicating why I think you're wrong. That's a terrible analogy. It'd be more like one drunk kid running into an AA meeting and yelling nonsense. Then most of the meeting decides to get drunk and yell about how stupid the kid is. I fail to see how it's a terrible analogy. Its bottom line is so simplistic I'm surprised you missed it. And you say I fail at logic... equating seeing one troll post on a forum to being hit in the face is just ridiculous. If you go out of your way to tell a crazy person about how their opinion is idiotic when you could easily ignore it, then yes, you're responsible for the ensuing conflict. You're still missing it. The bottom line was that just as it takes two people to argue, it takes two people to fight, and to blame retaliator for starting everything is ridiculous. People like BlazeFury and you are parts of the problem because between a. Asshats doing shit posting and b. People who just want to enjoy games but are sick of seeing shit posting and thus respond in hopes of drawing attention to the displeasure the original shit posting causes you'd rather blame b rather than a for the whole mess. Your philosophy seems to be that if you ignore shit posters, they'll go away, but in my experience on forums, that's never really been the case. It's better to respond to them to draw even more attention to the problem so eventually something will actually be done about it. If no one voices their displeasure then everyone gets complacent and nothing changes.
There will always be shit posters, hit the report button and move on. Engaging with them is what makes the mess.
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On May 29 2013 22:50 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:47 largehadroncollider wrote:this thread has been won. let's all drink Not really, we're just making awkward light-hearted jokes to cover the eSF vs Kespa debacle. In fact it's just Denial, the first of the Five Stages of Grief. I'll skip right ahead of you guys and go straight to Acceptance: KESPAAAAAAAA!!!!111111
This is not fair, you skipped the fun part - Depression
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On May 29 2013 22:56 eGoRama wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:50 ZenithM wrote:On May 29 2013 22:47 largehadroncollider wrote:this thread has been won. let's all drink Not really, we're just making awkward light-hearted jokes to cover the eSF vs Kespa debacle. In fact it's just Denial, the first of the Five Stages of Grief. I'll skip right ahead of you guys and go straight to Acceptance: KESPAAAAAAAA!!!!111111 This is not fair, you skipped the fun part - Depression
You mean, what's waiting for me tomorrow for U/D Group C?
If I could just skip that moment 
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:57 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 22:56 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 22:50 ZenithM wrote:On May 29 2013 22:47 largehadroncollider wrote:this thread has been won. let's all drink Not really, we're just making awkward light-hearted jokes to cover the eSF vs Kespa debacle. In fact it's just Denial, the first of the Five Stages of Grief. I'll skip right ahead of you guys and go straight to Acceptance: KESPAAAAAAAA!!!!111111 This is not fair, you skipped the fun part - Depression You mean, what's waiting for me tomorrow for U/D Group C? If I could just skip that moment
aw crap mkp is playing tomorrow
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