EPT[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs. STX SouL R5 - Page 30
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Pazuzu
United States632 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On May 29 2013 00:05 virpi wrote: I opened the thread in hope for innovation ownage. I was not disappointed I did the exact same thing. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On May 28 2013 18:23 Vanadiel wrote: You have to get some ultralisk at least to tank the sot of the mine (+queen to heal them), but I agree, if there is a solution Mutalisk is the key. Mutalisk remain important but focussing so much on upgrades seems poor to me, they don't scale that well from upgrades anway. I still expect the medivac to get a very tiny nerf in the future, just a slightly higher cooldown on the boost for example. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
 but great that we really got to see this matchup. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On May 29 2013 02:48 Dreamer.T wrote: Jesus christ Innovation. I'm getting nervous about the finals now, I hope he doesn't suddenly run out of steam during that time. He's currently looking like Flash during his prime in BW. how can you make that comparison? Two completely different games and styles. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On May 29 2013 04:12 EpiK wrote: how can you make that comparison? Two completely different games and styles. and time period...but i'm kinda confused now amount of sc2 games played in a span of a year is like 3x of bw, does 6 months of sc2 domination = 1 year of bw domination? how do we compare? flash dominated for years...no one has done this in sc2, mvp being closest but not really | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Soulkey will probably have to prepare some more trick builds to win the finals and not rely exclusively on straight up macro muta-banes. On another note, Blizzard really did a great job with the matchup, it's very cool to watch, it's dynamic, multitask and micro based, regardless of balance. I don't think many Terrans can do what Innovation is doing anyway (Flash for example does it too, but less well :D), but not many Zergs can defend like Soulkey either, so I don't really know where the matchup is right now balance-wise :/ Edit: Oh, and obviously, Innovation is a god. Forgot the obligatory mention. What a player :D | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 29 2013 04:16 jinorazi wrote: and time period...but i'm kinda confused now amount of sc2 games played in a span of a year is like 3x of bw, does 6 months of sc2 domination = 1 year of bw domination? how do we compare? flash dominated for years...no one has done this in sc2, mvp being closest but not really This is actually a fair point. With Proleague and regular WCS seasons on top of possible foreign events (MLG for KeSPA players, MLG + everything else for non-KeSPA players), there are a whole lot more games to play for the players, and much more material to study for their opponents. People say SC2 is much more volatile than BW, and the scene has certainly been, but I feel inclined to believe the sheer volume of games played for top players is a major factor, as well. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Why? A PL game means absolutely nothing. I recall the match CJ vs KT, where Flash completely rolled effOrt and his entire team and people were claiming that this was going to be an easy win for Flash, well he lost 3-2. Innovation has an incredible TvZ, but I'm sure there's holes within his match up. WJS has pretty good TvZers for SK to practice with including Light who was a tvz specialist in bw. That being said, I still feel Innovation takes it. | ||
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Marshall_D
United States196 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On May 29 2013 05:07 Marshall_D wrote: to be fair, effort exploited flash's early MM movements with large early ling pressure. if they played the series again the day after flash would have 3-0'd because you can't use the same trick against flash twice. this. and flash basically destroyed his own momentum, not effort. flash won the first two matches in which he obliterated effort. then, for whatever reason (you know, god moves in mysterious ways...), he went for stupid gimmicky all-in builds in games 3 and 4, which effort could handle easily. therefore, flash brought himself into the position in which one single mistake can cost the title - and that is what happened. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 29 2013 06:16 Elroi wrote: So, was that the two best players in the world playing in the last set? Why, are you disappointed? :D If so your standards are too high for this game I fear :/ | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
There seems room of improvement in this MU which is no surprise after such a short time playing HotS | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
On May 29 2013 06:54 ZenithM wrote: Why, are you disappointed? :D If so your standards are too high for this game I fear :/ I was actually amazed by that game, that's why I was asking if you thought, as I do, that these are the two best players in the world now. :D | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On May 29 2013 03:30 Black Gun wrote: no vods for sk vs innovation yet? but great that we really got to see this matchup. If you didn't find them yet. Korean Audio: English Audio: | ||
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snakeeyez
United States1231 Posts
Innovation is good at using mauraders to soak up banelings and his splitting is pretty good which turns all those fights in his favor combined with good widow mine usage. Soulkey innovation game looked good both players evenly matched | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
 more edit: can anybody link a vod of inno actually playing mech? i don't remember a single game where he did and it would be very much appreciated  | ||
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