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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3261
On May 27 2013 02:23 Cinim wrote:
Honestly ForGG doesn't even deserve ro8, he just isn't of the same caliber of anyone else in ro8.

He got to the semi finals, only winning TvT just being insanely lucky with draws. I know in the past some people got quite far dodging 1 matchup(Naniwa in GSL dodging zergs).
However, ForGG dodged 2 matchups. The only non TvT so far he played he lost, and only got 1 game narrowly, other two matches he got crushed. I really think they need to make regulations for these things to happen less regularely, because this is just completely silly. ForGG doesn't deserve to be here for just being good in 1 matchup, Lucifron deserves to be in this semifinal by a massive margin.

lol things don't work like that. It's luck of the draw and I hope they don't change it. Go ForGG!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Foudzing
Profile Joined December 2011
France181 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3262
Oh yes ForGG be a badboy I LOVE it!
Bomber and MKP Forever <3 | Dayshi | Maru | Feast | Symbol | ForGG | Bly | Dream Millenium Fighting!
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3263
So funny seeing the twitch chat go apeshit about a bunker rush in a tourney BO5
You Got The Touch
polity
Profile Joined March 2012
54 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3264
On May 27 2013 02:27 figq wrote:
What can you expect from a French, if not cheese.


frogs snails
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 17:29:35
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3265
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?

the same with protoss cheesing zerg unless its like a cannon rush I never see that, but a 2 base all in I would say the same thing.

Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3266
@EGStephanoRC: Hahaha. I'm speechless!


hehe
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3267
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh


There where a lot of people who complained about TLO cheesing more or less every game in the r16
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3268
ForGG, macro games please or get out of this Bo5.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3269
why do people hate on players cheesing ?? The bo7/5s where both players play 100% standard are the most boring ones imo
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3270
WCS_EU Premier League Season 1 Finals - Semi Final 2
[image loading] (T)ForGG 1-1 [image loading] (Z)Stephano

Game 3

Map Bel'Shir Vestige

00:00 - Stephano Spawns Top Left , forGG Spawns Top Left

Zerg for Life
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3271
On May 27 2013 02:27 saddaromma wrote:
the fact 2rax is still viable makes me sad. Its a free 1-game win for terran. No skill is needed.

Then why isn't it used more often, I wonder? Perhaps because Zerg has all the tools needed to defend it?

On May 27 2013 02:27 Undead1993 wrote:
sometimes 2 rax fail so hard and sometime it takes the game, i never see the difference

The differences in execution/defence can be quite subtle, but I can assure you they do exist.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3272
On May 27 2013 02:27 saddaromma wrote:
the fact that 2rax is still viable makes me sad. Its a free 1-game win for terran. No skill is needed.

Plz be quiet if you are unintelligent.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3273
On May 27 2013 02:27 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

Get used to unreasonable TLO bias.

Symbol cheesed because he's an idiot who can't play this game.
TLO cheesed because he's smart and knows that he can't take lucifron in a straight up match.

What
Glorious SEA doto
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3274
On May 27 2013 02:23 Cinim wrote:
Honestly ForGG doesn't even deserve ro8, he just isn't of the same caliber of anyone else in ro8.

He got to the semi finals, only winning TvT just being insanely lucky with draws. I know in the past some people got quite far dodging 1 matchup(Naniwa in GSL dodging zergs).
However, ForGG dodged 2 matchups. The only non TvT so far he played he lost, and only got 1 game narrowly, other two matches he got crushed. I really think they need to make regulations for these things to happen less regularely, because this is just completely silly. ForGG doesn't deserve to be here for just being good in 1 matchup, Lucifron deserves to be in this semifinal by a massive margin.


Thats like saying that MMA didn't deserve to go to the finals of the Super Tournament because he only played TvT
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#3275
--- Nuked ---
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
May 26 2013 17:29 GMT
#3276
My arm aches just thinking about playing many games with that weird mouse and keyboard spread ForGG uses.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 26 2013 17:29 GMT
#3277
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

I didn't like TLO cheesing either, but at least he hasn't made his career around it.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 26 2013 17:29 GMT
#3278
On May 27 2013 02:28 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:26 TwiStEr wrote:
cant beat the foreigner in a macro game .. better cheese


That's like a Boxer trying to beat a Sumo Wrestler at his own game. You play to your strength even if it's "cheese". If your opponent can't defend it, that's his problem.


Boxer can beat anyone at any game.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 17:29:29
May 26 2013 17:29 GMT
#3279
is steph gonna do it? that's a 13 scout


aww if only he put that CC up top.
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
May 26 2013 17:29 GMT
#3280
The tears of crybabies is delicious and sweet, please continue.

All tactics that win are good and legit, only people that can't play properly complain about so called "cheese"
You need to construct additional pylons.
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