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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
May 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#761
On May 15 2013 02:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:43 Badfatpanda wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?


Ofc, starving out your opponent isn't just one of the oldest strategies in RTS play, it's one of the oldest strategies in armed conflict the world over.

Going for the kill is still the most effective... i think it's the difference between foreigners and Koreans tbh.
If any of those fights would have been won by mma which would be possible with 1 poor siege up from strelok, mma would of went straight for the kill.


But that's because MMA played bio, with Mech you should just wait I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 17:48:06
May 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#762
I dont know.. Recently i saw strelok vs happy and happy made streloks mech look so sily.. But he did pretty good in game 1
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
May 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#763
That game was super intense, they both played pretty well. Strelock positioning and control of air was what won him the match. IMO
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 17:48:22
May 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#764
Without his beard, Strelok looks like swedish table tennis legend, J-O Waldner!

[image loading]
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#765
MMA beat MVP on this map back during the GSL finals ;p.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#766
On May 15 2013 02:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:43 Badfatpanda wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?


Ofc, starving out your opponent isn't just one of the oldest strategies in RTS play, it's one of the oldest strategies in armed conflict the world over.

Going for the kill is still the most effective... i think it's the difference between foreigners and Koreans tbh.
If any of those fights would have been won by mma which would be possible with 1 poor siege up from strelok, mma would of went straight for the kill.

Well he had like 5 ravens, I don't even think he needed to siege up with that amount of PDD.
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
May 14 2013 17:48 GMT
#767
Hellbats should get +armor rather than +life. +Armor still gives them a huge boost against lings and lots, but makes a much smaller difference against tanks and other high damage units. Also it makes more sense; they're carrying two big shields.

Yes, I know that marines get hp from their shields. Doesn't mean it makes sense.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 14 2013 17:48 GMT
#768
On May 15 2013 02:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:43 Badfatpanda wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?


Ofc, starving out your opponent isn't just one of the oldest strategies in RTS play, it's one of the oldest strategies in armed conflict the world over.

Going for the kill is still the most effective... i think it's the difference between foreigners and Koreans tbh.
If any of those fights would have been won by mma which would be possible with 1 poor siege up from strelok, mma would of went straight for the kill.


You can't do that against bio too well. Energy wasn't displayed most of the match but Strelok never took an offensive engagement unless his ravens had PDD up, losing his hellbats each time he would have risked overextending himself and throwing the match.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 14 2013 17:48 GMT
#769
On May 15 2013 02:47 Derez wrote:
MMA beat MVP on this map back during the GSL finals ;p.



Pretty good perspective on how old and outdated daybreak is.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 17:49:27
May 14 2013 17:48 GMT
#770
On May 15 2013 02:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:43 Badfatpanda wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?


Ofc, starving out your opponent isn't just one of the oldest strategies in RTS play, it's one of the oldest strategies in armed conflict the world over.

Going for the kill is still the most effective... i think it's the difference between foreigners and Koreans tbh.
If any of those fights would have been won by mma which would be possible with 1 poor siege up from strelok, mma would of went straight for the kill.

I think it's a matter of preference and style. It's totally viable to play in a defensive way with a very long-term plan of starving out your opponent (especially with mech, obviously).
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 14 2013 17:49 GMT
#771
Good lord Strelok is such a bonjwa. 2-0 incoming please.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 14 2013 17:49 GMT
#772
On May 15 2013 02:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS EU] Ro16 Group A Premier
[image loading] (T)MMA vs [image loading] (T)Strelok
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Daybreak

0:00
MMA spawns in the bottom left
Strelok spawns in the top right

1:30
gas first for Strelok
rax for MMA
rax for Strelok

2:00
gas for MMA

3:00
factory for Strelok
Factory for MMA
reactor for MMA
2nd gas for Strelok

4:00
widow mine started for Strelok
Starport for Strelok
reactored hellion production started for MMA

5:00
medivac for Strelok
Starport for MMA
tech lab on the factory of Strelok
reactored marines for Strelok
2nd gas for MMA viking for Strelok
tank production started for Strelok
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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
May 14 2013 17:49 GMT
#773
On May 15 2013 02:48 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:47 Derez wrote:
MMA beat MVP on this map back during the GSL finals ;p.



Pretty good perspective on how old and outdated daybreak is.


Yeah, as Artosis say the only map to have Nestea award.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 14 2013 17:50 GMT
#774
On May 15 2013 02:48 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:47 Derez wrote:
MMA beat MVP on this map back during the GSL finals ;p.



Pretty good perspective on how old and outdated daybreak is.

"daybreak has been played since mma last won something!"
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 14 2013 17:50 GMT
#775
On May 15 2013 02:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:43 Badfatpanda wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?


Ofc, starving out your opponent isn't just one of the oldest strategies in RTS play, it's one of the oldest strategies in armed conflict the world over.

Going for the kill is still the most effective... i think it's the difference between foreigners and Koreans tbh.
If any of those fights would have been won by mma which would be possible with 1 poor siege up from strelok, mma would of went straight for the kill.

You don't understand mech play.

You absolutely want to get to that ideal composition of tanks and ravens, because otherwise one bad fight against marauders can totally ruin your game. Tanks are the main army, ravens are the safety net.

Of course MMA would've gone for the kill, he was playing bio.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 14 2013 17:51 GMT
#776
On May 15 2013 02:47 DJHelium wrote:
Without his beard, Strelok looks like swedish table tennis legend, J-O Waldner!

[image loading]

Today I learned Sweden has a table tennis legend. You are right by the way.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#777
that was cute and all strelok, but now hellbats please
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#778
mma building nothing??????????????????????? for 1 min, no depots
yo
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#779
On May 15 2013 02:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:47 DJHelium wrote:
Without his beard, Strelok looks like swedish table tennis legend, J-O Waldner!

[image loading]

Today I learned Sweden has a table tennis legend. You are right by the way.


Several. We have several table tennis legends.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
May 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#780
Man if Strelok had continued to macro durinng this he would've been ahead after that supply block for MMA.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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