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hwatti
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland136 Posts
May 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#161
lol

Hilarious how it changed mid-cast :D well, good that that did it.
Weird side out
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 04 2013 19:47 GMT
#162
On May 05 2013 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:37 monkh wrote:
Who is the other caster with axlave? and how was he surprised no.1 Chinese player wouldn't beat Sasquatch? Jim's a bause!


Because he has no idea who the Chinese players are and doesn't realise that the Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans pretty much without exception.


Not sure if I should be laughing at this as a troll or if you really mean it. Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans without exception ?

Must be some super-hero Chinese players that I've never seen before . . . but I just checked the bracket here, and I don't see any Chinese players that can support your hilariously outlandish claim. Must be a troll.


P.S. Hendralisk 2-1 over Loner first round.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 04 2013 19:48 GMT
#163
On May 05 2013 04:47 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:37 monkh wrote:
Who is the other caster with axlave? and how was he surprised no.1 Chinese player wouldn't beat Sasquatch? Jim's a bause!


Because he has no idea who the Chinese players are and doesn't realise that the Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans pretty much without exception.


Not sure if I should be laughing at this as a troll or if you really mean it. Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans without exception ?

Must be some super-hero Chinese players that I've never seen before . . . but I just checked the bracket here, and I don't see any Chinese players that can support your hilariously outlandish claim. Must be a troll.


P.S. Hendralisk 2-1 over Loner first round.


It is not a troll. Who are the best non-chinese foreigners here? Like Puck and Demuslim? The Chinese players are better than them.

Yes Loner lost to Hendralisk but these are BO3s.
Red and yellow are all I see
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 04 2013 19:49 GMT
#164
I actually really like Axslav and this other dude nobody seems to know.

The cast feels a lot less awkward than it is with Axeltoss/Axslav.
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
May 04 2013 19:49 GMT
#165
Chinese/Taiwan players dropping to NA players

Bails over DemonSheep
Xenocider over Ian
Hendralisk over Loner

I agree that there are some amazing Chinese players, but as a whole the China/Taiwan players don't seem to be dominating NA like Koreans have.
Myra
Profile Joined December 2012
2 Posts
May 04 2013 19:50 GMT
#166
Needs more streams for the other games. I don't understand how they thought it was a good idea to just have all these other great matches going on and not let anyone see them.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 04 2013 19:50 GMT
#167
Also the lag must be pretty bad from China.
Red and yellow are all I see
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 04 2013 19:51 GMT
#168
I dont think there are really any notable Taiwanese players other than SEn are there? He has like a 90% win rate in TESL IIRC. Jim should be the best foreigner in this qualifier on paper.
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 04 2013 19:53 GMT
#169
On May 05 2013 04:48 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:47 SCST wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:37 monkh wrote:
Who is the other caster with axlave? and how was he surprised no.1 Chinese player wouldn't beat Sasquatch? Jim's a bause!


Because he has no idea who the Chinese players are and doesn't realise that the Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans pretty much without exception.


Not sure if I should be laughing at this as a troll or if you really mean it. Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans without exception ?

Must be some super-hero Chinese players that I've never seen before . . . but I just checked the bracket here, and I don't see any Chinese players that can support your hilariously outlandish claim. Must be a troll.


P.S. Hendralisk 2-1 over Loner first round.


It is not a troll. Who are the best non-chinese foreigners here? Like Puck and Demuslim? The Chinese players are better than them.

Yes Loner lost to Hendralisk but these are BO3s.


Nothing wrong with being a fan of Chinese players, many of them are very good. However, your statement seems pretty far off the mark from what I've seen. Chinese players are about on par with the foreigners, just as we are seeing with the current results. This is the way it's been now for a long time.

I'd go further and say that against the foreigners in American and European Premier league, most of the Chinese would be outclassed.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 04 2013 19:54 GMT
#170
On May 05 2013 04:44 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:41 govie wrote:
tvt not best demuslim matchup... oh dear..

What makes you say that? His losses to Byun?


ye
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 04 2013 19:55 GMT
#171
Center is on another level, even after taking his third way later and going bio vs mech, he's still able to secure a great position and get back into the game.

Isnt it better to take the middle base as third base when going mech?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 04 2013 19:56 GMT
#172
On May 05 2013 04:54 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:44 Thrax wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:41 govie wrote:
tvt not best demuslim matchup... oh dear..

What makes you say that? His losses to Byun?


ye


Devil's advocate here, Demuslim seems to only lose TvT to Byun, it's rare to see him lose to any other Terrans on his stream. Like, ever.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 04 2013 19:57 GMT
#173
On May 05 2013 04:54 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:44 Thrax wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:41 govie wrote:
tvt not best demuslim matchup... oh dear..

What makes you say that? His losses to Byun?


ye


While the statement might be true (I'd say his TvZ is strongest and TvT weakest), games vs a Code S level player isn't a good measurement for how solid his TvT is.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 04 2013 19:59 GMT
#174
On May 05 2013 04:53 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:48 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:47 SCST wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:37 monkh wrote:
Who is the other caster with axlave? and how was he surprised no.1 Chinese player wouldn't beat Sasquatch? Jim's a bause!


Because he has no idea who the Chinese players are and doesn't realise that the Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans pretty much without exception.


Not sure if I should be laughing at this as a troll or if you really mean it. Chinese are better than all the non-Koreans without exception ?

Must be some super-hero Chinese players that I've never seen before . . . but I just checked the bracket here, and I don't see any Chinese players that can support your hilariously outlandish claim. Must be a troll.


P.S. Hendralisk 2-1 over Loner first round.


It is not a troll. Who are the best non-chinese foreigners here? Like Puck and Demuslim? The Chinese players are better than them.

Yes Loner lost to Hendralisk but these are BO3s.


Nothing wrong with being a fan of Chinese players, many of them are very good. However, your statement seems pretty far off the mark from what I've seen. Chinese players are about on par with the foreigners, just as we are seeing with the current results. This is the way it's been now for a long time.

I'd go further and say that against the foreigners in American and European Premier league, most of the Chinese would be outclassed.


The top handful of Chinese are right up there with Stephano, Naniwa, Snute, Scarlett, Lucifron etc. We just never get to see them.
Red and yellow are all I see
Kentredenite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States220 Posts
May 04 2013 20:02 GMT
#175
On May 05 2013 04:49 Megiddosc wrote:
Chinese/Taiwan players dropping to NA players

Bails over DemonSheep
Xenocider over Ian
Hendralisk over Loner

I agree that there are some amazing Chinese players, but as a whole the China/Taiwan players don't seem to be dominating NA like Koreans have.

I don't think anyone's been saying the Taiwanese players were leagues better than the NA ones, just the Chinese (the Taiwanese and Chinese scenes are very separated). It was mostly due to how the Chinese players that did make it into the WCS NA premier league qualifier made it the furthest out of all the non-Koreans -- the only non-Korean, non-Chinese who made to the last round was Demuslim.
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
May 04 2013 20:02 GMT
#176
Xy got absolutely destroyed that game. Not even close at any point.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#177
That was a really boring game.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
May 04 2013 20:05 GMT
#178
On May 05 2013 05:02 Kentredenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:49 Megiddosc wrote:
Chinese/Taiwan players dropping to NA players

Bails over DemonSheep
Xenocider over Ian
Hendralisk over Loner

I agree that there are some amazing Chinese players, but as a whole the China/Taiwan players don't seem to be dominating NA like Koreans have.

I don't think anyone's been saying the Taiwanese players were leagues better than the NA ones, just the Chinese (the Taiwanese and Chinese scenes are very separated). It was mostly due to how the Chinese players that did make it into the WCS NA premier league qualifier made it the furthest out of all the non-Koreans -- the only non-Korean, non-Chinese who made to the last round was Demuslim.

A lot of the strongest NA players already were invited to premier.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
May 04 2013 20:05 GMT
#179
On May 05 2013 05:02 Kentredenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 04:49 Megiddosc wrote:
Chinese/Taiwan players dropping to NA players

Bails over DemonSheep
Xenocider over Ian
Hendralisk over Loner

I agree that there are some amazing Chinese players, but as a whole the China/Taiwan players don't seem to be dominating NA like Koreans have.

I don't think anyone's been saying the Taiwanese players were leagues better than the NA ones, just the Chinese (the Taiwanese and Chinese scenes are very separated). It was mostly due to how the Chinese players that did make it into the WCS NA premier league qualifier made it the furthest out of all the non-Koreans -- the only non-Korean, non-Chinese who made to the last round was Demuslim.


So you are basing the entire Chinese sc2 scene on Top, Macsed, and Comm.

Okay then.
Kentredenite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 20:08:44
May 04 2013 20:07 GMT
#180
On May 05 2013 05:05 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 05:02 Kentredenite wrote:
On May 05 2013 04:49 Megiddosc wrote:
Chinese/Taiwan players dropping to NA players

Bails over DemonSheep
Xenocider over Ian
Hendralisk over Loner

I agree that there are some amazing Chinese players, but as a whole the China/Taiwan players don't seem to be dominating NA like Koreans have.

I don't think anyone's been saying the Taiwanese players were leagues better than the NA ones, just the Chinese (the Taiwanese and Chinese scenes are very separated). It was mostly due to how the Chinese players that did make it into the WCS NA premier league qualifier made it the furthest out of all the non-Koreans -- the only non-Korean, non-Chinese who made to the last round was Demuslim.

A lot of the strongest NA players already were invited to premier.

You know what's funny, that actually didn't cross my mind when I typed that post.

I'm not even being sarcastic.

Edit: I'm basing the entire Chinese scene on those guys because they are essentially the entire Chinese scene. There aren't very many Chinese SC2 pro-gamers.
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