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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 02:58:08
April 30 2013 02:57 GMT
#501
On April 30 2013 11:54 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:48 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:44 Champloo wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote:
No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene...


Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will.


I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc


ForGG is already in EU and he's not even nearly trashing anything. He got trashed in ESET UK and Dreamhack.


Well for WCS I am sure that next year we will have more Koreans living in EU to play there, it's still a lot easier than Korea and NA will slowly become fully Korean unless Blizzard does something so EU will be the easiest region for players that can get on teams with houses. MC/MMA etc

Neither MC nor MMA will dominate Europeans. Only the top tier Koreans would be able to do that.
Europe will hold up completely fine in that tournament. But yeh it will end up way easier than WCS NA I agree.


Both of them have in the past. MMA has won Iron Squid and IEM Kiev in EU, and MC has won IEM WC, Homestory, Dreamhack Stockholm, Copenhagen Games...

These guys are champions, and champions on EU soil. Neither will be playing with ping, but are coming to EU to play. They might not be as dominant as they used to be, but one can't underestimate a former champion.


I don't. Far from a guarantee though. MC Has failed miserably at his last two EU tourneys. I would love to see Mvp do well, I just fail to see how it is a forgone conclusion. It will be very competitive.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#502
I wonder if not having as many ladder maps in the WCS NA map pool will help some of these players with forcing them to play more custom games.

It would be awesome if the next season was full WCS maps tho.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 02:59:18
April 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#503
damn theOgnis gettin some really solid hits off.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#504
On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote:
glad to see a terran advance

You are going to be glad very often :p


Did you watch dreamhack?

Did you watch GSL?


Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant.


Why are we looking at a single tournament for balance? We shouldn't look at a single GSL nor a single Dreamhack. Wait and see for now
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 02:59:11
April 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#505
On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote:
glad to see a terran advance

You are going to be glad very often :p


Did you watch dreamhack?

Did you watch GSL?


Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant.

Why is one tournament more relevant than the other? That's what I was getting at. Each tournament will have different race ratios depending on how players play on the day. It doesn't really mean anything. Unless this is about the lack of good Terrans outside of Korea.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 30 2013 02:59 GMT
#506
On April 30 2013 11:57 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:54 Bagration wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:48 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:44 Champloo wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote:
No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene...


Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will.


I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc


ForGG is already in EU and he's not even nearly trashing anything. He got trashed in ESET UK and Dreamhack.


Well for WCS I am sure that next year we will have more Koreans living in EU to play there, it's still a lot easier than Korea and NA will slowly become fully Korean unless Blizzard does something so EU will be the easiest region for players that can get on teams with houses. MC/MMA etc

Neither MC nor MMA will dominate Europeans. Only the top tier Koreans would be able to do that.
Europe will hold up completely fine in that tournament. But yeh it will end up way easier than WCS NA I agree.


Both of them have in the past. MMA has won Iron Squid and IEM Kiev in EU, and MC has won IEM WC, Homestory, Dreamhack Stockholm, Copenhagen Games...

These guys are champions, and champions on EU soil. Neither will be playing with ping, but are coming to EU to play. They might not be as dominant as they used to be, but one can't underestimate a former champion.


I don't. Far from a guarantee though. MC Has failed miserably at his last two EU tourneys. I would love to see Mvp do well, I just fail to see how it is a forgone conclusion. It will be very competitive.


I just hope Mvp is going to play his games from EU, he can stay with MC and has the $$ but I haven't heard if he is so probably isn't
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 30 2013 03:00 GMT
#507
On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote:
No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene...


Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will.


I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc

Those EU players sure showed them at WCS last year! Oh wait... No no, at last MLG, oh wait.. Ah, Naniwa got to DH finals beating Jaedong who has 25% ZvP in Korea in a bo3! OK, you're right, EU is too strong.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 30 2013 03:00 GMT
#508
On April 30 2013 12:00 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote:
No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene...


Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will.


I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc

Those EU players sure showed them at WCS last year! Oh wait... No no, at last MLG, oh wait.. Ah, Naniwa got to DH finals beating Jaedong who has 25% ZvP in Korea in a bo3! OK, you're right, EU is too strong.


EU as a whole is pretty strong vs like 3 koreans
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 30 2013 03:00 GMT
#509
On April 30 2013 11:58 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote:
glad to see a terran advance

You are going to be glad very often :p


Did you watch dreamhack?

Did you watch GSL?


Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant.


Why are we looking at a single tournament for balance? We shouldn't look at a single GSL nor a single Dreamhack. Wait and see for now


When the fuck did anyone bring up balance? If the poster was clearly referring to terrans advancing out of a mixed international tournament, last weekends dreamhack results showed a ridiculously stark contrast. Are you denying that? lol. Game balance is fine.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 30 2013 03:01 GMT
#510
On April 30 2013 11:58 Laryleprakon wrote:
I wonder if not having as many ladder maps in the WCS NA map pool will help some of these players with forcing them to play more custom games.

It would be awesome if the next season was full WCS maps tho.


I am really surprised that Blizzard hasn't forced the GSL map pool upon everyone to have a unified map scene. I mean it is just one big tournament and all these regional ones are just qualifiers for the season finals which are qualifiers for the Blizzcon finals.
Then again, I shouldn't be surprised considering how unorganized the start of WCS was....
Long live the Boss Toss!
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 30 2013 03:04 GMT
#511
Can someone let me know if there have been any player interviews at all tonight?
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 30 2013 03:04 GMT
#512
On April 30 2013 11:58 Clefairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote:
glad to see a terran advance

You are going to be glad very often :p


Did you watch dreamhack?

Did you watch GSL?


Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant.

Why is one tournament more relevant than the other? That's what I was getting at. Each tournament will have different race ratios depending on how players play on the day. It doesn't really mean anything. Unless this is about the lack of good Terrans outside of Korea.


GSL is korean inside and out, Dreamhack was a mixed tournament in which korean/foreign terran players competed against korean/foreign players. It means everything considering how trash foreign terrans have always appeared compared to their korean counterparts throughout the entire history of this game, even back in the bw days.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 30 2013 03:04 GMT
#513
Oh boy oh boy, these games are so good

banelings and zerglings and if that doesn't work make even more of them and then more of them...
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 30 2013 03:05 GMT
#514
On April 30 2013 12:01 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:58 Laryleprakon wrote:
I wonder if not having as many ladder maps in the WCS NA map pool will help some of these players with forcing them to play more custom games.

It would be awesome if the next season was full WCS maps tho.


I am really surprised that Blizzard hasn't forced the GSL map pool upon everyone to have a unified map scene. I mean it is just one big tournament and all these regional ones are just qualifiers for the season finals which are qualifiers for the Blizzcon finals.
Then again, I shouldn't be surprised considering how unorganized the start of WCS was....


Yea, I'd love if they changed the ladder seasons to the same as WCS seasons and had the same map pool + maybe 1-2 from proleague. It would feel much more like you can go from ladder>challenger>premier>season champs>blizzcon and just help the story line for the more casual people.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 30 2013 03:06 GMT
#515
i have no idea why vibe tried a base trade idk really silly decision imo xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
April 30 2013 03:06 GMT
#516
On April 30 2013 11:57 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote:
glad to see a terran advance

You are going to be glad very often :p


Did you watch dreamhack?

Have you watched Proleague, MLG, WCS qualies, IEM and GSTL?

There were only 3 top Terran players at that event.

1 played awful
1 got coin flipped out
1 made it to the quarters. Terrans really grasping at straws here...


And zergs continue to win everything. And Soulkey just beat the unbeatable Innovation yesterday. Stop being so biased. We're at an incredibly balanced state right now
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 03:07:11
April 30 2013 03:06 GMT
#517
Poll: Recommend Vibe vs TheOgnis game1?

No (5)
 
50%

Meh (3)
 
30%

Yes (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Vibe vs TheOgnis game1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Meh
(Vote): No







edit:
OP you need to add the recommended game polls to the post.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 30 2013 03:06 GMT
#518
It's weird watching TvZ nowadays. Because of widow mines, it's common to see Terrans have a higher supply than Zerg, while I'm used to seeing Zerg having higher supplies
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 30 2013 03:07 GMT
#519
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 03:08:04
April 30 2013 03:07 GMT
#520
On April 30 2013 12:07 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 12:04 GTPGlitch wrote:
Oh boy oh boy, these games are so good

banelings and zerglings and if that doesn't work make even more of them and then more of them...

I am loving it :D


o.o

it's so ugly though
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
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