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On April 30 2013 11:54 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:50 AxionSteel wrote:On April 30 2013 11:48 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 30 2013 11:44 Champloo wrote:On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote: No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene... Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will. I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc ForGG is already in EU and he's not even nearly trashing anything. He got trashed in ESET UK and Dreamhack. Well for WCS I am sure that next year we will have more Koreans living in EU to play there, it's still a lot easier than Korea and NA will slowly become fully Korean unless Blizzard does something so EU will be the easiest region for players that can get on teams with houses. MC/MMA etc Neither MC nor MMA will dominate Europeans. Only the top tier Koreans would be able to do that. Europe will hold up completely fine in that tournament. But yeh it will end up way easier than WCS NA I agree. Both of them have in the past. MMA has won Iron Squid and IEM Kiev in EU, and MC has won IEM WC, Homestory, Dreamhack Stockholm, Copenhagen Games... These guys are champions, and champions on EU soil. Neither will be playing with ping, but are coming to EU to play. They might not be as dominant as they used to be, but one can't underestimate a former champion.
I don't. Far from a guarantee though. MC Has failed miserably at his last two EU tourneys. I would love to see Mvp do well, I just fail to see how it is a forgone conclusion. It will be very competitive.
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I wonder if not having as many ladder maps in the WCS NA map pool will help some of these players with forcing them to play more custom games.
It would be awesome if the next season was full WCS maps tho.
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damn theOgnis gettin some really solid hits off.
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On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote: glad to see a terran advance You are going to be glad very often :p Did you watch dreamhack? Did you watch GSL? Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant.
Why are we looking at a single tournament for balance? We shouldn't look at a single GSL nor a single Dreamhack. Wait and see for now
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On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote: glad to see a terran advance You are going to be glad very often :p Did you watch dreamhack? Did you watch GSL? Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant. Why is one tournament more relevant than the other? That's what I was getting at. Each tournament will have different race ratios depending on how players play on the day. It doesn't really mean anything. Unless this is about the lack of good Terrans outside of Korea.
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On April 30 2013 11:57 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:54 Bagration wrote:On April 30 2013 11:50 AxionSteel wrote:On April 30 2013 11:48 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 30 2013 11:44 Champloo wrote:On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote: No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene... Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will. I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc ForGG is already in EU and he's not even nearly trashing anything. He got trashed in ESET UK and Dreamhack. Well for WCS I am sure that next year we will have more Koreans living in EU to play there, it's still a lot easier than Korea and NA will slowly become fully Korean unless Blizzard does something so EU will be the easiest region for players that can get on teams with houses. MC/MMA etc Neither MC nor MMA will dominate Europeans. Only the top tier Koreans would be able to do that. Europe will hold up completely fine in that tournament. But yeh it will end up way easier than WCS NA I agree. Both of them have in the past. MMA has won Iron Squid and IEM Kiev in EU, and MC has won IEM WC, Homestory, Dreamhack Stockholm, Copenhagen Games... These guys are champions, and champions on EU soil. Neither will be playing with ping, but are coming to EU to play. They might not be as dominant as they used to be, but one can't underestimate a former champion. I don't. Far from a guarantee though. MC Has failed miserably at his last two EU tourneys. I would love to see Mvp do well, I just fail to see how it is a forgone conclusion. It will be very competitive.
I just hope Mvp is going to play his games from EU, he can stay with MC and has the $$ but I haven't heard if he is so probably isn't
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On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote: No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene... Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will. I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc Those EU players sure showed them at WCS last year! Oh wait... No no, at last MLG, oh wait.. Ah, Naniwa got to DH finals beating Jaedong who has 25% ZvP in Korea in a bo3! OK, you're right, EU is too strong.
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On April 30 2013 12:00 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:43 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 30 2013 11:42 Champloo wrote:On April 30 2013 11:40 Dr.Sin wrote: No wonder the Koreans are trashing the NA/EU scene... Koreans aren't trashing the EU. Never have, never will. I'm sure they will if they can get on teams that will move them to EU, ForGG/MMA etc Those EU players sure showed them at WCS last year! Oh wait... No no, at last MLG, oh wait.. Ah, Naniwa got to DH finals beating Jaedong who has 25% ZvP in Korea in a bo3! OK, you're right, EU is too strong.
EU as a whole is pretty strong vs like 3 koreans
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On April 30 2013 11:58 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote: glad to see a terran advance You are going to be glad very often :p Did you watch dreamhack? Did you watch GSL? Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant. Why are we looking at a single tournament for balance? We shouldn't look at a single GSL nor a single Dreamhack. Wait and see for now
When the fuck did anyone bring up balance? If the poster was clearly referring to terrans advancing out of a mixed international tournament, last weekends dreamhack results showed a ridiculously stark contrast. Are you denying that? lol. Game balance is fine.
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On April 30 2013 11:58 Laryleprakon wrote: I wonder if not having as many ladder maps in the WCS NA map pool will help some of these players with forcing them to play more custom games.
It would be awesome if the next season was full WCS maps tho.
I am really surprised that Blizzard hasn't forced the GSL map pool upon everyone to have a unified map scene. I mean it is just one big tournament and all these regional ones are just qualifiers for the season finals which are qualifiers for the Blizzcon finals. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised considering how unorganized the start of WCS was....
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Can someone let me know if there have been any player interviews at all tonight?
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On April 30 2013 11:58 Clefairy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:55 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:51 Clefairy wrote:On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote: glad to see a terran advance You are going to be glad very often :p Did you watch dreamhack? Did you watch GSL? Yeah...what does that have to do with anything? Only have of the terran's advanced. And think about the names of the players who did. This is an international tournament, dreamhack is so much more relevant. Why is one tournament more relevant than the other? That's what I was getting at. Each tournament will have different race ratios depending on how players play on the day. It doesn't really mean anything. Unless this is about the lack of good Terrans outside of Korea.
GSL is korean inside and out, Dreamhack was a mixed tournament in which korean/foreign terran players competed against korean/foreign players. It means everything considering how trash foreign terrans have always appeared compared to their korean counterparts throughout the entire history of this game, even back in the bw days.
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Oh boy oh boy, these games are so good
banelings and zerglings and if that doesn't work make even more of them and then more of them...
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On April 30 2013 12:01 mrRoflpwn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:58 Laryleprakon wrote: I wonder if not having as many ladder maps in the WCS NA map pool will help some of these players with forcing them to play more custom games.
It would be awesome if the next season was full WCS maps tho. I am really surprised that Blizzard hasn't forced the GSL map pool upon everyone to have a unified map scene. I mean it is just one big tournament and all these regional ones are just qualifiers for the season finals which are qualifiers for the Blizzcon finals. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised considering how unorganized the start of WCS was....
Yea, I'd love if they changed the ladder seasons to the same as WCS seasons and had the same map pool + maybe 1-2 from proleague. It would feel much more like you can go from ladder>challenger>premier>season champs>blizzcon and just help the story line for the more casual people.
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i have no idea why vibe tried a base trade idk really silly decision imo xD
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On April 30 2013 11:57 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:48 Badfatpanda wrote:On April 30 2013 11:46 Emzeeshady wrote:On April 30 2013 11:41 ref4 wrote: glad to see a terran advance You are going to be glad very often :p Did you watch dreamhack? Have you watched Proleague, MLG, WCS qualies, IEM and GSTL? There were only 3 top Terran players at that event. 1 played awful 1 got coin flipped out 1 made it to the quarters. Terrans really grasping at straws here...
And zergs continue to win everything. And Soulkey just beat the unbeatable Innovation yesterday. Stop being so biased. We're at an incredibly balanced state right now
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Poll: Recommend Vibe vs TheOgnis game1?No (5) 50% Meh (3) 30% Yes (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Vibe vs TheOgnis game1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): Meh (Vote): No
edit: OP you need to add the recommended game polls to the post.
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It's weird watching TvZ nowadays. Because of widow mines, it's common to see Terrans have a higher supply than Zerg, while I'm used to seeing Zerg having higher supplies
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On April 30 2013 12:07 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 12:04 GTPGlitch wrote: Oh boy oh boy, these games are so good
banelings and zerglings and if that doesn't work make even more of them and then more of them... I am loving it :D
o.o
it's so ugly though
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