EPT[Code S] RO32 Group H 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 - Page 116
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:33 Charlie.Sheen wrote: eSF can only get to 43.75% in Ro16 if the best scenario for them happens. Huh? If Leenock and Life go through it's gonna be 50% eSF One could argue about Parting as well, but I guess it's almost enough time for him to be considered KeSPA | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:37 mordk wrote: Huh? If Leenock and Life go through it's gonna be 50% eSF One could argue about Parting as well, but I guess it's almost enough time for him to be considered KeSPA Taeja's not. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:25 eXeZerg wrote: No it doesn't, but still means you standard pre-viper timing will hit a lot stronger, And you can actually scout for that really easily Yet the pre-viper "standard" timing is arguably non-existant, considering how early vipers come out, how you need to blindly prepare for mutas by building multiple thors and how you can't get to that critical number of tanks and possibly lose to pure roach. It relies entirely on doing huge damage with harass to succeed against any competent zerg. I'm just saying that mech is a niche style that has a pretty bad overall winrate, so I really do not get when people bitch and complain about small aspects of it such as hellbat drops. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
Oh well I tend to call all non-kespa koreans eSF koreans... it's meaningless though. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
He is just flipping way too many coins in the early game and would have just outright lost various games today against early-midgame roach or ling/bling busts. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:40 Big J wrote: btw, after todays games I'm pretty certain that Flash is going to get cheesed out of this GSL. He is just flipping way too many coins in the early game and would have just outright lost various games today against early-midgame roach or ling/bling busts. No. He defends it with game sense.  | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:40 Big J wrote: btw, after todays games I'm pretty certain that Flash is going to get cheesed out of this GSL. He is just flipping way too many coins in the early game and would have just outright lost various games today against early-midgame roach or ling/bling busts. He's always played like that. Now future opponents might look at those openings and cheese while Flash can play a safer style without worrying about greedy opponent's taking advantage of it. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote: What if Taeja wins this GSL, will he still go to NA region? i think nazgul pretty much said yes. not 100% sure | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:37 mordk wrote: Huh? If Leenock and Life go through it's gonna be 50% eSF One could argue about Parting as well, but I guess it's almost enough time for him to be considered KeSPA I think it´s time to drop the silliness of distinguishing between kespa and esf. They´re Korean pro-gamers. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:57 Daswollvieh wrote: I think it´s time to drop the silliness of distinguishing between kespa and esf. They´re Korean pro-gamers. Nah it's more fun to create these divisions so we can argue endlessly about these things and be at each others throats all the time T_T | ||
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Miragee
8509 Posts
His sc2 gamesense isn't even close to his sense in bw at his prime yet. He isn't cheese imune just yet. | ||
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:30 FeyFey wrote: Bio protecting mines, I like it 2 Neurals and the Bio is gone. Anyway we had this before, Zerg being unable to reach t3 that would own the Terran. Blizzard decided to make reaching t3 easy and we had a huge problem. I doubt Blizzard will change it earlier then Infestors and do anything big, that the people qqing will notice. Will be something around the lines of roach warren build time reduced by 5 seconds. Or get the medivac reactor for the boost. Because right now I would say the Terran can do a bit more mistakes then the Zerg. But they have to be able to because of how the Widow Mine works. And at the end Zergs are still up there, they just don't get free wins anymore against weaker Terrans and can keep up with way stronger Terrans. For me the whole balance just looks to fragile to change and most maps are favoring Bio heavily anyway. Because if Zerg can reach t3 easily then Terran is again dead. (except flash who somehow can kite Ultras easy peasy over the whole map and still macro without a problem) Cannot wait though for Zergs starting to bust down all the Terrans after they found the Overlord Speed button and start to use Widow Mines to splash the Marines. Artosis analysis was really true about how you want to engage bio+mine army was random and how you have to "feel it". I think one of the problem is how overseer is the only unit that detect invisible/burrowed unit, while it's still a little bit fragile and slower than the army, so if you want to engage on multiple front you can't have overseer for each little group of unit so every engagement are a gamble. Even in case where you travel the map with mutalisk, the overseer will be left behind as he's slower so you'll get hit if a random mine remains in the way. | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
On April 18 2013 22:39 mordk wrote: Oh well I tend to call all non-kespa koreans eSF koreans... it's meaningless though. The whole KeSPA vs eSF is meaningless, but people still want to argue. | ||
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illidanx
United States973 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On April 18 2013 23:06 Miragee wrote: His sc2 gamesense isn't even close to his sense in bw at his prime yet. He isn't cheese imune just yet. There was a while in BW where he went CC first every game and it cost him a few losses. I just imagine he has to go through the pain period in SC2 again before he figured it out perfectly, if he hasn't already. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 18 2013 23:19 DidYuhim wrote: The whole KeSPA vs eSF is meaningless, but people still want to argue. On April 18 2013 23:19 illidanx wrote: KESSPAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111 hahaha | ||
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StickyIcky
United States192 Posts
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