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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#2261
Lesson of the day: ZvT/TvZ, if you are the superior player, you win


GANGSTA!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#2262
On April 18 2013 22:18 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:17 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:15 Karpfen wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:14 Scrubwave wrote:
Mech anti air is such a joke.

you mean mines and thors ? Do you know that zergs usually don't go mutas vs mech?

Do you know that hiding 20 mutas is a common trick to exploit mech's lack of map presence and thus scouting issues?

Yea, zerg can just pop 20 mutas out of nowhere. It's not like they cost 2k/2k.

Where did I say anything about mutas being "free"? No map presence = Zerg is free to bank to hide mutas. That's what I said.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 13:22:49
April 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#2263
On April 18 2013 22:18 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:17 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:15 Karpfen wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:14 Scrubwave wrote:
Mech anti air is such a joke.

you mean mines and thors ? Do you know that zergs usually don't go mutas vs mech?

Do you know that hiding 20 mutas is a common trick to exploit mech's lack of map presence and thus scouting issues?

Yea, zerg can just pop 20 mutas out of nowhere. It's not like they cost 2k/2k.


You just saw it happen, you... you.. nincompoop!

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, apparently nincompoop is an anglo-saxon version of non compos mentis which means 'not of sound mind' in latin.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
April 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#2264
On April 18 2013 22:19 Irre wrote:
another great day of GSL


Indeed! Flash made the biggest impression on me today, such a beastly way to play TvZ
Favourite players: Jaedong, DRG, Coca, Snute, Grubby, Keen, Baby | GoGo [A]lliance
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#2265
On April 18 2013 22:18 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:17 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:15 Karpfen wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:14 Scrubwave wrote:
Mech anti air is such a joke.

you mean mines and thors ? Do you know that zergs usually don't go mutas vs mech?

Do you know that hiding 20 mutas is a common trick to exploit mech's lack of map presence and thus scouting issues?

Yea, zerg can just pop 20 mutas out of nowhere. It's not like they cost 2k/2k.


Wait thats actually quite cheap considering how they stomped the mech army xD

Someone should count the thors in that game and translate them to mines per cost, pretty sure mines would have been WAY better.
Revolutionist fan
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 18 2013 13:21 GMT
#2266
On April 18 2013 22:17 Ghanburighan wrote:
Cannot win a game on Whirlwind without doing significantly more damage to the Z than that. I'm happy SK won, even though I like Maru a ton, just because it should shut up the Z whiners because the better player clearly won.

Good bio play is pretty decent on Whirlwind to be fair, but with that all-in drop style I guess he needed to do more damage. Soulkey deflecting it nicely without any really good unit counters.
"NO" -Has
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 18 2013 13:22 GMT
#2267
On April 18 2013 22:20 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:18 Assirra wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:17 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:15 Karpfen wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:14 Scrubwave wrote:
Mech anti air is such a joke.

you mean mines and thors ? Do you know that zergs usually don't go mutas vs mech?

Do you know that hiding 20 mutas is a common trick to exploit mech's lack of map presence and thus scouting issues?

Yea, zerg can just pop 20 mutas out of nowhere. It's not like they cost 2k/2k.


Wait thats actually quite cheap considering how they stomped the mech army xD

Someone should count the thors in that game and translate them to mines per cost, pretty sure mines would have been WAY better.


But mines aren't as reliable. Only getting mines for AA is like taking a draw in the lottery and hoping all his mutas fly over them.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 18 2013 13:22 GMT
#2268
On April 18 2013 22:20 Cereb wrote:
Lesson of the day: ZvT/TvZ, if you are the superior player, you win


GANGSTA!

Comment of the day. GG!
"NO" -Has
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
April 18 2013 13:22 GMT
#2269
On April 18 2013 22:20 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:18 Assirra wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:17 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:15 Karpfen wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:14 Scrubwave wrote:
Mech anti air is such a joke.

you mean mines and thors ? Do you know that zergs usually don't go mutas vs mech?

Do you know that hiding 20 mutas is a common trick to exploit mech's lack of map presence and thus scouting issues?

Yea, zerg can just pop 20 mutas out of nowhere. It's not like they cost 2k/2k.


Wait thats actually quite cheap considering how they stomped the mech army xD

Someone should count the thors in that game and translate them to mines per cost, pretty sure mines would have been WAY better.


These muta didnt poped from nowhere, Soulkey hidden them...

Maru just didnt harass enough. I'm sure with some drops he would have see the mutas Soulkey was trying to hide.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#2270
On April 18 2013 22:18 eXeZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:16 Bagi wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:13 eXeZerg wrote:
Terran still ahead after soulkey defends that almost flawlessly...
Dunno how this is fair

"Ahead" is so relative. If the terran isn't able to put on further aggression but the zerg can do tech switches like this while outexpanding the terran himself, what's the problem?


It's maru's fault for being impatience and not waiting for a bigger deathball to finish the game off
Walking across the map with almost no AA vs someone you know has mutalisk is not very smart

The longer he waits, the more meaningless any early harass becomes as the zerg is able to drone freely after it

People need to look at the big picture, a strong harass doesn't mean game over especially when you have no way to capitalize on it.
eXeZerg
Profile Joined February 2013
95 Posts
April 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#2271
On April 18 2013 22:19 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:18 eXeZerg wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:16 Bagi wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:13 eXeZerg wrote:
Terran still ahead after soulkey defends that almost flawlessly...
Dunno how this is fair

"Ahead" is so relative. If the terran isn't able to put on further aggression but the zerg can do tech switches like this while outexpanding the terran himself, what's the problem?


It's maru's fault for being impatience and not waiting for a bigger deathball to finish the game off
Walking across the map with almost no AA vs someone you know has mutalisk is not very smart

He thought he had a timing because he saw Soulkey was droning his fourth. He had not vision of the whole map to see hidden mutas, you know.


So he took a risk, rather then playing safe.
Sometimes risks don't pay off
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
April 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#2272
I guess GomTvZ is a thing now... -.-

Glad to see Flash go through though. A bit of redemption for the PL losing streak...
maru G5L pls
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#2273
On April 18 2013 22:22 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:20 Cereb wrote:
Lesson of the day: ZvT/TvZ, if you are the superior player, you win


GANGSTA!

Comment of the day. GG!


And it feels great
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 18 2013 13:24 GMT
#2274
I feel so bad for Dan. It sounded like he genuinely thinks PartinG has a chance in Hell of advancing. >_>
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 13:25 GMT
#2275
So unless I'm mistaken, TvZ is now 18-15 in maps.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 18 2013 13:25 GMT
#2276
Why was group H played before group G btw?
eXeZerg
Profile Joined February 2013
95 Posts
April 18 2013 13:25 GMT
#2277
On April 18 2013 22:23 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 22:18 eXeZerg wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:16 Bagi wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:13 eXeZerg wrote:
Terran still ahead after soulkey defends that almost flawlessly...
Dunno how this is fair

"Ahead" is so relative. If the terran isn't able to put on further aggression but the zerg can do tech switches like this while outexpanding the terran himself, what's the problem?


It's maru's fault for being impatience and not waiting for a bigger deathball to finish the game off
Walking across the map with almost no AA vs someone you know has mutalisk is not very smart

The longer he waits, the more meaningless any early harass becomes as the zerg is able to drone freely after it

People need to look at the big picture, a strong harass doesn't mean game over especially when you have no way to capitalize on it.


No it doesn't, but still means you standard pre-viper timing will hit a lot stronger,
And you can actually scout for that really easily
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 18 2013 13:25 GMT
#2278
On April 18 2013 22:23 neptunusfisk wrote:
I guess GomTvZ is a thing now... -.-

Glad to see Flash go through though. A bit of redemption for the PL losing streak...


I wouldn't mind.

TvZ is the best match-up.

Funny thing is if Parting loses next Tuesday.

There will be a total of 2 Toss in the Ro16.

=X
Play your best
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 18 2013 13:25 GMT
#2279
On April 18 2013 22:25 Bagi wrote:
Why was group H played before group G btw?

Proleague scheduling conflicts because flash and soulkey have to play on tuesday
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 18 2013 13:26 GMT
#2280
NovemberstOrm, thanks for doing the LR, but next time please remember there are a few more things to take care of in the OP as well! Linking live reports, making recommended games polls and getting the general formatting correct :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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