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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
April 18 2013 12:55 GMT
#2021
Why is the lich king at the GSL? I know undead won the last WCG but I don't think they can compete with the SC2 races
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2013 12:55 GMT
#2022
On April 18 2013 21:53 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:50 Grumbels wrote:
I wonder if zergs will ever start flanking with infestors like protoss do with templar. And infestors can sneak up easier and get away easier too.


Good point. Infestors are even faster than HTs (2.25 vs 1.875) and if they're caught out of position you can quickly burrow, forcing a scan or two


That would require army control. It's gonna take two more years for zergs to discover that!
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 18 2013 12:55 GMT
#2023
On April 18 2013 21:45 KristofferAG wrote:
Oh, +1 armor for mech/air wut?


A bit late on answering, but this seems to be standard when using widow mine compositions. Also helps if you need to transition into vikings.
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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2024
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Nice joke. Made me giggle.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2025
On April 18 2013 21:55 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:50 Grumbels wrote:
I wonder if zergs will ever start flanking with infestors like protoss do with templar. And infestors can sneak up easier and get away easier too.

AoE radius for storm is larger than fungal, plus it happens instantly, making flank storms much more effective than flank fungals could ever be.

I'm sure we'll see some burrow infestor flanks for fungal eventually, but I doubt they'd be as effective as you think, and most players wouldn't risk it since you only make a few infestors these days.

but you can move out of storms
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SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2026
On April 18 2013 21:52 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:51 Godwrath wrote:
Holy fuck soulkey... that infestor control is so 2011.

I was gonna say 2010.


Noone built infestors in 2010
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2027
On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?


@LiquidRet 13m

Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage

@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Why would they want to eat those words?


I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now.

Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name...


Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret.

So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for.


Most fun about the balance discussion is that after code s qualifier EU everybody whines about hellbatdrop, before about mines, and before that about speedvac... Next tournament its gonna be BC's i guess....
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2028
On April 18 2013 21:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:53 nomyx wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:50 Grumbels wrote:
I wonder if zergs will ever start flanking with infestors like protoss do with templar. And infestors can sneak up easier and get away easier too.


Good point. Infestors are even faster than HTs (2.25 vs 1.875) and if they're caught out of position you can quickly burrow, forcing a scan or two


That would require army control. It's gonna take two more years for zergs to discover that!


Well they can practice army control with baiting out widow mine shots
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2029
Incredible game on a very good map.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#2030
On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?


@LiquidRet 13m

Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage

@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Why would they want to eat those words?


I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now.

Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name...


Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret.

So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for.

A bit more micro? Flash had a wall of mines, there was zero chance to not get your half army destroyed just trying to pass them.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2031
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs [image loading] (T)Maru
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
Soulkey spawns in the bottom right
Maru spawns in the top left
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:57:22
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2032
Poll: Recommend Maru vs Soulkey Game 1?

Yes (20)
 
95%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Soulkey Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time




great game IMO
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2033
On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?


@LiquidRet 13m

Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage

@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Why would they want to eat those words?


I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now.

Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name...


Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret.

So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for.


Yeah, this so called Terran "imbalance" vs zerg is nowhere near the level of BL + infestor. I know Life is on another level but Zergs should really take a look at what he's doing because it works against Terran.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2034
On April 18 2013 21:52 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?


@LiquidRet 13m

Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage

@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Why would they want to eat those words?


I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now.


Yet can't simply kill an a terran he did so much damage to early on.


If this was WoL and it was Terran who allinned Zerg and got 20supply ahead, we would be getting a lot of "so this is how the game looks if Zerg doesn't have an advantage by default" comments.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2035
On April 18 2013 21:52 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:51 Godwrath wrote:
Holy fuck soulkey... that infestor control is so 2011.

I was gonna say 2010.



Infestors in 2010 were only about the neuroparasite ^^

Fungals weren't really used / useful in 2010
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2036
SoulKey is so good at remaxing lol. It's like when I cheat and just throw armies after armies at the AI
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2037
On April 18 2013 21:56 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?


@LiquidRet 13m

Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage

@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Why would they want to eat those words?


I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now.

Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name...


Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret.

So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for.


Most fun about the balance discussion is that after code s qualifier EU everybody whines about hellbatdrop, before about mines, and before that about speedvac... Next tournament its gonna be BC's i guess....

Big surprise, people like to whine about perceived imbalance. What else is new?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2038
On April 18 2013 21:56 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:
@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~

Nice joke. Made me giggle.


Yup, before Zergs learned how to use the infestor. :p
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#2039
Here comes the cheese.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
April 18 2013 12:58 GMT
#2040
Maru checking everywhere but not scouting it. So painful
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