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Acer1791
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany182 Posts
April 05 2013 18:33 GMT
#2441
is gstl now on korean tv too?
or did the change only affect GSL?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 05 2013 18:38 GMT
#2442
On April 06 2013 03:33 Acer1791 wrote:
is gstl now on korean tv too?
or did the change only affect GSL?


Only GSL - the Korean team leagues (PL, GSTL) are unaffected by WCS.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
April 05 2013 18:41 GMT
#2443
watching the vods... we can do better with the logos... make them more subtle. Maybe require the players to play without decals on their buildings and replace the decals with the team logos? (the ones that show up on the ground by the CCs, at least)
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 05 2013 19:29 GMT
#2444
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 05 2013 19:32 GMT
#2445
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freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
April 05 2013 19:37 GMT
#2446
On April 06 2013 04:32 Emzeeshady wrote:
Hopefully people won't call Scarlett a patch Zerg anymore . I predict great things for her.



I always felt like she was top 5 foreigner easy.... and I dont feel like many people on this forum ever acused her of being 1
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 19:49:46
April 05 2013 19:43 GMT
#2447
On April 06 2013 01:02 asdfOu wrote:
..........................................


JUST HOW MOD ARE YOU RIGHT NOW?

Wait, hasn't MC always beaten Ryung? He once made a 7-0 symbol in the booth after beating Ryung. That's a possible consideration for sending MC instead of another toss.


Which I think was a mistake. The team has had MC figured out since MLG, his stargate opening vs T has been analyzed to death and the smart money was on him using it since he had not broken it out in S.Korea yet, only at MLG. The guys spent a great deal of time analyzing it as a potential way to handle Terran drop-play when the thoughts were that it was very hard to counter as toss, but since then have figured out other ways to do it without having to rely on a Stargate opening. Ryung is also a naturally defensive player and the team predicted a couple of things in their strategy.

1) IM expects MMA to come out as Ace and prepared appropriately for him.
2) IM thinks that if Ryung does come out it will be to snipe T and then they can snipe him in turn with P because it's his worst matchup.

Both of these assumptions are now incorrect. The team will not rely on MMA as an ace because it is too predictable, in reality we have 4 "ace-worthy" players and are building the confidence of Miya, Heart and Scarlett to fulfil that role as well. Due to our small team size we need to be absolutely flexible and cannot rely on "sniping" because that's too predictable. Ryung is now sitting on a 75% win rate against Protoss on ladder and in practice, his previously weakest matchup is now one of his strongest since thanks to things like Widowmines, he is able to play his trademark defensive, controlled style against P more effectively. Oh and he's a fucking baller.

They're all fucking ballers at this point, I'm so proud of them.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 05 2013 20:02 GMT
#2448
On April 06 2013 04:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 01:02 asdfOu wrote:
..........................................


JUST HOW MOD ARE YOU RIGHT NOW?

Show nested quote +
Wait, hasn't MC always beaten Ryung? He once made a 7-0 symbol in the booth after beating Ryung. That's a possible consideration for sending MC instead of another toss.


Which I think was a mistake. The team has had MC figured out since MLG, his stargate opening vs T has been analyzed to death and the smart money was on him using it since he had not broken it out in S.Korea yet, only at MLG. The guys spent a great deal of time analyzing it as a potential way to handle Terran drop-play when the thoughts were that it was very hard to counter as toss, but since then have figured out other ways to do it without having to rely on a Stargate opening. Ryung is also a naturally defensive player and the team predicted a couple of things in their strategy.

1) IM expects MMA to come out as Ace and prepared appropriately for him.
2) IM thinks that if Ryung does come out it will be to snipe T and then they can snipe him in turn with P because it's his worst matchup.

Both of these assumptions are now incorrect. The team will not rely on MMA as an ace because it is too predictable, in reality we have 4 "ace-worthy" players and are building the confidence of Miya, Heart and Scarlett to fulfil that role as well. Due to our small team size we need to be absolutely flexible and cannot rely on "sniping" because that's too predictable. Ryung is now sitting on a 75% win rate against Protoss on ladder and in practice, his previously weakest matchup is now one of his strongest since thanks to things like Widowmines, he is able to play his trademark defensive, controlled style against P more effectively. Oh and he's a fucking baller.

They're all fucking ballers at this point, I'm so proud of them.

haha yea. the look on IM coach's face when Ryung comes out as ace O_o so good
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Snakis
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom5 Posts
April 05 2013 20:03 GMT
#2449
Axiom Fighting! (:
Stephano / MMA / Daisy / DRG /PartinG/ Dragon ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 05 2013 20:07 GMT
#2450
TB man if you don't believe in God, thank... something, The Queen or your mother for making your fabulous self. Living the dream.

You got all da YouToobs moneh, now you and your wife have created the eSports Yankees? I mean it would be cool enough to own your eSport team but owning a team this good just right off the bat is borderline embarrassing, its like your finger turns stuff to gold bro.

Congratulations truly.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 05 2013 20:07 GMT
#2451
I can imagine TB going on a (most likely drunken) happy rampage at home. Congratulations, you and your team deserve the joy. You probably shouldn't be discussing the intricacies of your team strategy on a public forum though. You know, to keep up suspense
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 05 2013 20:08 GMT
#2452
On April 06 2013 04:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 01:02 asdfOu wrote:
..........................................


JUST HOW MOD ARE YOU RIGHT NOW?

Show nested quote +
Wait, hasn't MC always beaten Ryung? He once made a 7-0 symbol in the booth after beating Ryung. That's a possible consideration for sending MC instead of another toss.


Which I think was a mistake. The team has had MC figured out since MLG, his stargate opening vs T has been analyzed to death and the smart money was on him using it since he had not broken it out in S.Korea yet, only at MLG. The guys spent a great deal of time analyzing it as a potential way to handle Terran drop-play when the thoughts were that it was very hard to counter as toss, but since then have figured out other ways to do it without having to rely on a Stargate opening. Ryung is also a naturally defensive player and the team predicted a couple of things in their strategy.

1) IM expects MMA to come out as Ace and prepared appropriately for him.
2) IM thinks that if Ryung does come out it will be to snipe T and then they can snipe him in turn with P because it's his worst matchup.

Both of these assumptions are now incorrect. The team will not rely on MMA as an ace because it is too predictable, in reality we have 4 "ace-worthy" players and are building the confidence of Miya, Heart and Scarlett to fulfil that role as well. Due to our small team size we need to be absolutely flexible and cannot rely on "sniping" because that's too predictable. Ryung is now sitting on a 75% win rate against Protoss on ladder and in practice, his previously weakest matchup is now one of his strongest since thanks to things like Widowmines, he is able to play his trademark defensive, controlled style against P more effectively. Oh and he's a fucking baller.

They're all fucking ballers at this point, I'm so proud of them.



You sure are revealing a lot of information that could eventually be used against your own team.
...unless...you already knew that and are using it as a MIND GAME MECHANIC?!
:OOOOOOOOOOO
moo...for DRG
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#2453
On April 06 2013 05:08 neoghaleon55 wrote:

You sure are revealing a lot of information that could eventually be used against your own team.
...unless...you already knew that and are using it as a MIND GAME MECHANIC?!
:OOOOOOOOOOO


And who knows how much bullshit and misinformation I just fed everyone there?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#2454
On April 06 2013 04:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 01:02 asdfOu wrote:
..........................................


JUST HOW MOD ARE YOU RIGHT NOW?

Show nested quote +
Wait, hasn't MC always beaten Ryung? He once made a 7-0 symbol in the booth after beating Ryung. That's a possible consideration for sending MC instead of another toss.


Which I think was a mistake. The team has had MC figured out since MLG, his stargate opening vs T has been analyzed to death and the smart money was on him using it since he had not broken it out in S.Korea yet, only at MLG. The guys spent a great deal of time analyzing it as a potential way to handle Terran drop-play when the thoughts were that it was very hard to counter as toss, but since then have figured out other ways to do it without having to rely on a Stargate opening. Ryung is also a naturally defensive player and the team predicted a couple of things in their strategy.

1) IM expects MMA to come out as Ace and prepared appropriately for him.
2) IM thinks that if Ryung does come out it will be to snipe T and then they can snipe him in turn with P because it's his worst matchup.

Both of these assumptions are now incorrect. The team will not rely on MMA as an ace because it is too predictable, in reality we have 4 "ace-worthy" players and are building the confidence of Miya, Heart and Scarlett to fulfil that role as well. Due to our small team size we need to be absolutely flexible and cannot rely on "sniping" because that's too predictable. Ryung is now sitting on a 75% win rate against Protoss on ladder and in practice, his previously weakest matchup is now one of his strongest since thanks to things like Widowmines, he is able to play his trademark defensive, controlled style against P more effectively. Oh and he's a fucking baller.

They're all fucking ballers at this point, I'm so proud of them.

I must say, that Ryung vP suprised me a lot today. He seemed to always somehow fall apart in this matchup. but today he was pretty convincing. Looking forward to see more!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 05 2013 20:58 GMT
#2455
On April 06 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
haha yea. the look on IM coach's face when Ryung comes out as ace O_o so good


Well it's no doubt they were taking us seriously, opening with Mvp then following up with YoDa says "this is our house, know your place new guys", but I don't think they expected our strategy.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Griffins
Profile Joined July 2012
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:27:06
April 05 2013 21:18 GMT
#2456
TB, what are you feeding those kids? They just demolished my fantasy team! ~_~

Anyway, congrats to Axiom-Acer on the win. LG-IM even sent their Code S lineup last night.
Also: last week I said that all the Scarlett anti-teamers are going to get bitten in the ass, and here it comes. Not every team is going to have Yoda to take her out.
terriBean
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada75 Posts
April 05 2013 21:20 GMT
#2457
yeaaah go axiomacer
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:25:39
April 05 2013 21:22 GMT
#2458
On April 06 2013 05:58 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
haha yea. the look on IM coach's face when Ryung comes out as ace O_o so good


Well it's no doubt they were taking us seriously, opening with Mvp then following up with YoDa says "this is our house, know your place new guys", but I don't think they expected our strategy.


"Know your place new guys" is a bit of a stretch when the team is basically SlayerS + Scarlett don't you think? Not a diss, just an observation.

Edit: Forgot Heart
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:25:57
April 05 2013 21:23 GMT
#2459
On April 06 2013 06:18 Griffins wrote:
TB, what are you feeding those kids? They just demolished my fantasy team! ~_~



On April 06 2013 04:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Ryung is now sitting on a 75% win rate against Protoss on ladder and in practice, his previously weakest matchup is now one of his strongest since thanks to things like Widowmines, he is able to play his trademark defensive, controlled style against P more effectively. Oh and he's a fucking baller.

They're all fucking ballers at this point, I'm so proud of them.

TB is like the fantasy league manager who trades for Heart, Miya, Ryung, Crank, Alicia, MMA, and Scarlett for like a handful of points and then sits back and watches as they wreck everyone else's antiteams. Except he's doing it IRL. What a fucking baller!!
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
April 05 2013 21:40 GMT
#2460
Scarlett really surprised me. At the beginning of the cast they talked about how MVP could even all-kill it, but Scarlett won pretty convincingly. I really am not doing well with my fantasy team and liquibets with these great games from Axiom-Acer, which is fantastic for them.
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