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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
March 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2661
On March 08 2013 01:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:00 Weavel wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.
Might have something to do with swarm of zergs balance whining. Reminds me of 2010 and early 2011 LR threads...

Terran hate back then has never been on the same level as zerg hate now. Although the Terran domination back then was way bigger then the Zerg one ever was.

How was zerg domination lower than terran's one?
Did you see foreign terrans beating top koreans zergs repeateadly?
Zerg got the most GSL wins and some absurd cash winning in 2012, it's not even funny.
WriterMaru
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2662
Mvp vs TLO

So he gets the bratwurst by beating a german then.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2663
On March 08 2013 01:02 Bagi wrote:
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On March 08 2013 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
As protoss I gotta say I could probably win TvZ handily with 2 reaper opening and then pressure third with widow mines vs current standard zerg.

As terran I gotta say I could probably win PvZ handily by turtling into VR/colossi on 3 base.

Your point?


You could maybe. Not saying that skytoss is balanced. What's your point?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2664
On March 08 2013 01:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
As protoss I gotta say I could probably win TvZ handily with 2 reaper opening and then pressure third with widow mines vs current standard zerg.


Thanks for that nugget of wisdom ~_~


My pleasure.
In other words TvZ seems rather easy for good terrans atm. But maybe zergs just need to figure out a different opening.


Took Broodwar Terrans 8 years to play mech in TvZ again. Kind of looked easy for Terrans when it came up again. Kind of looked different after Zergs got to practice vs it. Instead of instant changing, give people some time.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2665
On March 08 2013 01:03 Swordland wrote:
Somebody....when the VODs are released, where will it be? IEM's official website? Or will they just re stream everything? If they do....then I dont know what time stephano vs mvp will be..


They'll restream it 2 hours from now, but vods can also be found on the twitch channel and their youtube channel.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2666
Dat drone loss!!
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2667
Poor stephano
Stop procrastinating
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 16:05:54
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2668
On March 08 2013 01:02 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.


Zerg whining about balance after playing one match where he made horrible mistakes = zerg hate

What horrible mistakes ?_? He did one huge mistake when he loses 3 vipers but the game was already over by then .


- 16 Pool against proxy Reaper
- building 30 speedlings on 13 Drones doing nothing at all
- building a huge amount of Roaches, attacking into a Terran with 4 Widow Mines and Siege Tanks
- losing 4 Vipers to widow mines without using a single spell

more then enough huge mistakes to lose a game in my opinion
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2669
On March 08 2013 01:04 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:02 m0ck wrote:
Jebus, calm down. Where are the cries of imbalance exactly? Stephano said that HE didn't know how to handle Z and then compared himself to a one-legged dwarf while laughing.

Time for a chill-pill!


This.

Some of you to need to calm the fuck down and read what he wrote. He said he was lost against terran. He omitted the possibility he may in time better understand the match up.

Stephano was one of the few zergs that openly said he believed zergs were very strong against terran in wings of liberty. Give him his due.

Yeah, he said that even before the famous patch.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Twisting
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands49 Posts
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2670
Hello, to the people that talk about zerg having a hard time finnaly.

I would like to remind you to GomTvT. And the close spawn nightmares, zerg was very hard when WoL came out, and again is very hard now HotS is out.

After a year or something, the terran nerfs kept on comming. So enjoy your overpowerd year while u can
"Play hard, Go pro"
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2671
On March 08 2013 01:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:02 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
As protoss I gotta say I could probably win TvZ handily with 2 reaper opening and then pressure third with widow mines vs current standard zerg.

As terran I gotta say I could probably win PvZ handily by turtling into VR/colossi on 3 base.

Your point?


You could maybe. Not saying that skytoss is balanced. What's your point?


His point is that you shouldn't make claims without evidence that contribute literally nothing to anything aside from pissing people off.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
March 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#2672
Wow those widow mines are pretty powerful xD
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 07 2013 16:06 GMT
#2673
haha... stephano thinking that widow mines would trigger on changeling... what a silly...
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 07 2013 16:06 GMT
#2674
Single mech game today and that was from MVP and he lost to Broodlord/Corruptor, am I right?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 16:06 GMT
#2675
On March 08 2013 01:05 Twisting wrote:
Hello, to the people that talk about zerg having a hard time finnaly.

I would like to remind you to GomTvT. And the close spawn nightmares, zerg was very hard when WoL came out, and again is very hard now HotS is out.

After a year or something, the terran nerfs kept on comming. So enjoy your overpowerd year while u can


Literally nothing about that made any sense.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 16:08:54
March 07 2013 16:06 GMT
#2676
On March 08 2013 01:04 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:02 Redox wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:00 Weavel wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.
Might have something to do with swarm of zergs balance whining. Reminds me of 2010 and early 2011 LR threads...

Terran hate back then has never been on the same level as zerg hate now. Although the Terran domination back then was way bigger then the Zerg one ever was.

How was zerg domination lower than terran's one?
Did you see foreign terrans beating top koreans zergs repeateadly?
Zerg got the most GSL wins and some absurd cash winning in 2012, it's not even funny.


Zerg had 8 months where it topped the TLPD winrates. Terran had 20 months.

Zerg had the most players in Code S GSL once (the current season, Season 1 2013). Terran had the most Code S GSL players for every season before that.

Comparing Zerg vs Terran dominance is like comparing Pyrrhus to Alexander the Great. Not even close.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 16:06:50
March 07 2013 16:06 GMT
#2677
stephano carrying the imbalance qq to a next level after ryung. what is next, a weekly show on imbalance?
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DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
March 07 2013 16:06 GMT
#2678
seems like stephano's drones did get afterburned
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
March 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#2679
Zerg players are so used to get away with ridiculous pressure and early damage thanks to mass queen usage and larva inject.
HoTS is the greatest tool to distinguish patchZergs from proZergs.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
March 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#2680
On March 08 2013 01:06 Isualin wrote:
stephano carrying the imbalance qq to a next level after ryung. what is next, a weekly show on imbalance?


Inside the game? Hello?
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