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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2621
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2622
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.
Might have something to do with swarm of zergs balance whining. Reminds me of 2010 and early 2011 LR threads...
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2623
"Mentally affected by the previous series"

I would say definetely, especially with that sick blunder...

And then Rachel chops his balls off right before the match -_-
Stop procrastinating
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2624
On March 08 2013 00:59 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:56 Swiipii wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:53 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:51 Big J wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.

Not being able to go 3 base 70 drones behind pure queen and a handful of lings is bad? I beg to differ.

Lol . Stephano never did that in Wol and it didn't prevent him from taking series off MKP, MMA, Mvp, Lucifron and such .


when did Stephano took a game of the king ?


He beat him in Iron Squid easily.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2625
On March 08 2013 00:58 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:56 Musicus wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 Caletor wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...

I think it's entirely to early to really say anything yet. Zergs are still so used to the ez mode they had in WoL to be brutally honest. Give the top zergs some more time to work with the new units and changes. If in 1-2 months after release Zerg are getting stomped out, then call imba.

Players whining about balance and crying for blizzard to nerf/buff to early/quickly is what led WoL to it's troubles near the end. Give time for players to figure shit out and learn how to actually counter things before saying which race is weak and which isn't.


Still, besides Stephano (in zvp) no zerg said zerg was OP in wol, but now terrans are sayinng terran is OP already. But I agree that blizz should wait.

I think that just says more about the personalities of Zerg players against Terran players and less about balance

but in all seriousness. I do think that it LOOKS like terran is a touch stronger, but also I don't think Zergs are using their new units to the full potential yet either.


Yep pretty much this and ZvP looked so bad in wol and everyone lost hope and was just waiting for a nerf and then Stephano happened. Might be the same in hots in a few months.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25474 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2626
On March 08 2013 00:57 gillon wrote:
Game isn't even fucking released and zergs are already crying. Come fucking on.

Zerg players are often retarded though. With many an honourable exception of course.

Terran 'tears' were due to an actual legitimately broken matchup (well, imo). The 'Sad Zealot' period was when Protoss WERE getting stomped by stupid T allins.

Zergs on the other hand, whine when they WERE underpowered, whine that their wins are unfairly demerited when they're overpowered, and whine at all times in between.

Looking forward to this match, not all that familiar with Dream. It is HoTS but did he have a signature style back in WoL?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#2627
On March 08 2013 01:00 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:56 TimENT wrote:
What the fuck is this bullshit? I didn't hear Terran players saying this when infestor broodlord was so imba it wasn't even funny.

Ahem


After 6+ months of infestor/broodlord domination. Stephano hasn't broken 30 hours of playing yet. Especially not against the style Mvp was raping him with.
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2628
On March 08 2013 00:59 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:56 Swiipii wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:53 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:51 Big J wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.

Not being able to go 3 base 70 drones behind pure queen and a handful of lings is bad? I beg to differ.

Lol . Stephano never did that in Wol and it didn't prevent him from taking series off MKP, MMA, Mvp, Lucifron and such .


when did Stephano took a game of the king ?


Knocked him out of Iron Squid II.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2629
On March 08 2013 00:59 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:56 Swiipii wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:53 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:51 Big J wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.

Not being able to go 3 base 70 drones behind pure queen and a handful of lings is bad? I beg to differ.

Lol . Stephano never did that in Wol and it didn't prevent him from taking series off MKP, MMA, Mvp, Lucifron and such .


when did Stephano took a game of the king ?

Iron Squid he 2-0ed him .
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2630
Afterburners shouldnt be a free cooldown spell. NERF THORS
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 16:01:49
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2631
As protoss I gotta say I could probably win TvZ handily with 2 reaper opening and then pressure third with widow mines vs current standard zerg.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2632
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.


Zerg whining about balance after playing one match where he made horrible mistakes = zerg hate
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2633
On March 08 2013 01:00 eXeZerg wrote:
Can't believe the Terran bias from some people here...
Even terran players say it's broken


None of them have said it's broken.

They've said it's strong sure, but there's also been pros rightfully pointing out that zerg are a race about reacting to what your opponent is doing and as there's no set timings, there's nothing to react too currently.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
March 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#2634
On March 08 2013 00:57 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:54 Wombat_NI wrote:
Some Zerg posters are absolutely unbelievable with the nonsense they come out with.

Let the game SETTLE please. The end of WoL was ruined for me and many others because Zergs got patches/favourable map pools to fix the 'broken' race when they could have figured it out given a bit of time.

I just wish Blizzard would allow the game settle before they go and change anything.


I play terran but I honestly don't think the situation is comparable at all. In the beginning of wol we basically had close to no player who really knew how to play the game. The situation now is that sure, we have an expansion, but despite the casters claiming so its not a new game. Its just an expanded game. Hence it should be easier to see if theres an obvious imbalance fairly early on.

I think zerg probably will get better vs terran but that they will still be slightly at a disadvantage unless zerg is buffed a little or terran nerfed a little.
Amove for Aiur
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2635
On March 08 2013 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
As protoss I gotta say I could probably win TvZ handily with 2 reaper opening and then pressure third with widow mines vs current standard zerg.


Thanks for that nugget of wisdom ~_~
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2636
On March 08 2013 01:00 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:56 TimENT wrote:
What the fuck is this bullshit? I didn't hear Terran players saying this when infestor broodlord was so imba it wasn't even funny.

Ahem


But he gg'ed :D
Terran & Potato Salad.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2637
On March 08 2013 01:00 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:59 sAsImre wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:56 Swiipii wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:53 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:51 Big J wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.

Not being able to go 3 base 70 drones behind pure queen and a handful of lings is bad? I beg to differ.

Lol . Stephano never did that in Wol and it didn't prevent him from taking series off MKP, MMA, Mvp, Lucifron and such .


when did Stephano took a game of the king ?


He beat him in Iron Squid easily.


so he defeated the ghost of Mvp and got crushed both in this IEM and blizz cup. Cool.
Zest fanboy.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2638
Lol, thanksfully everyone here can balance whine, or whine about balance whiners, all they want, I don't believe Blizzard will do anything drastic or even change anything at all for a while.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2639
What did Rachel respond with? Missed it
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
March 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2640
On March 08 2013 01:00 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.
Might have something to do with swarm of zergs balance whining. Reminds me of 2010 and early 2011 LR threads...

Does that justify it? I'd hope people would just move past it, at least somewhat. It's so fucking boring...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
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