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During the MLG Winter Season Showdowns, 56 of the world's best StarCraft II players will compete in Heart of the Swarm. Each player will compete in 1 best-of-5 Showdown Match, with each winner receiving a paid trip to compete in the MLG Winter Championship. Tune in and watch every match in FREE 1080p HD at www.majorleaguegaming.com and on Twitch.TV.
 2013 MLG Winter Championship/ShowdownsSchedule/VODS+ Show Spoiler +Tonight's match:
 Creator vs  NesTea![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/glzlZHQ.png) www.majorleaguegaming.com Results+ Show Spoiler +Recommended Games+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 1?Yes (2) 67% No (1) 33% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 2?Yes (1) 50% No (1) 50% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 3?Yes (1) 50% No (1) 50% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 4?Yes (1) 50% No (1) 50% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 4? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 5?Yes (1) 50% No (1) 50% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Nestea Game 5? (Vote): Yes
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Creator vs Nestea will be analyzed following the MVP vs Curious match on Monday, Feb 18 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Bifrost
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Korhal City
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Note: In each Winter Season Showdown match, both Players will veto three Maps. Invite-Only online matches; Winner takes all, Best of five games The 28 winners will receive placement at the Winter Championship in Dallas from March 15-17 where they will compete with Life, Leenock, Flash and Bomber.
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Creator has never been to an MLG, so go Creator!
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Nestea can beat PartinG so he can beat Creator, easy peasy.
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Poll: Head?Creator (24) 73% Nestea (9) 27% 33 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Creator
Poll: Heart?Nestea (20) 53% Creator (18) 47% 38 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Creator
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money to the bank for creator!
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Head says Creator, Heart hopes that NesTea enjoys HoTS and is on the same upwards path that he seems to have been on in WoL lately.
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Please Creator, don't let me down ;_;.
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On February 19 2013 04:22 Rulker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +does anyone else think seed looks like Bisu in this pic?
Not really, no
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I really hope that switching to HoTS brings back nestea from the early days of winds of liberty. He was really a sight to see.
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NesTea with mutalisks. I am 100% sure he will! :D
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On February 19 2013 04:18 alvadr wrote:
Nestea can beat PartinG so he can beat Creator, easy peasy.
This is HotS...
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On February 19 2013 04:18 alvadr wrote:
Nestea can beat PartinG so he can beat Creator, easy peasy.
In WoL, yes. In HotS, not so sure.
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Nestea is a build order master, often coming up with very innovative ideas. Creator is kinda the same, but seems more reliant on hitting weak points in the current metagame and refining builds.
Normally Creator would be favored, but I could def. see Nestea taking him out here. After all, he is the Creator of the Universe.
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Creator has quite a bit of HoTS played as of now but I'm not sure how much he had played when these games took place. Hopefully the Prime players pull through!
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sooooooooooooooooooooo excited to see NesTea's hots play...
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On February 19 2013 05:12 DJHelium wrote:
Nestea is a build order master, often coming up with very innovative ideas. Creator is kinda the same, but seems more reliant on hitting weak points in the current metagame and refining builds.
Normally Creator would be favored, but I could def. see Nestea taking him out here. After all, he is the Creator of the Universe.
Nestea needed to focus on creating baneling all-ins in WoL for his match vs aLive.
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On February 19 2013 05:29 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 05:12 DJHelium wrote:
Nestea is a build order master, often coming up with very innovative ideas. Creator is kinda the same, but seems more reliant on hitting weak points in the current metagame and refining builds.
Normally Creator would be favored, but I could def. see Nestea taking him out here. After all, he is the Creator of the Universe. Nestea needed to focus on creating baneling all-ins in WoL for his match vs aLive.
I wonder if NesTea can convince blizzard to give him the baneling that explodes into more smaller banelings from the HoTS campaign to use in real games
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On February 19 2013 05:12 DJHelium wrote:
After all, he is the Creator of the Universe.
OHHHH YEAAAAAA
Nestea is the CREATOR of the universe
ho ho ho too much too much
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On February 19 2013 05:34 iMrising wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 05:12 DJHelium wrote:
After all, he is the Creator of the Universe. OHHHH YEAAAAAA Nestea is the CREATOR of the universe ho ho ho too much too much
dude. it wasn't THAT funny
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Good protosses are really hard to beat in HOTS. Both the players probably will be prepared, but Creator will win easily.
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I would guess Creator'd have less time to practice HoTS, but I have no idea. He's amazingly smart so he's probably got builds planned.
I expect atleast 1 baneling all in from Nestea though :p
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i don't even know who to root for. i like both these motherfuckers.
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Nestea beat Bisu in a showmatch (I guess before blizzcup finals), so he wins
/jk
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gogogo come on nestea make zergs have some kind of hope for hots!
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Maaan, this is some sweet streaming quality 
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Just tuned in. What was that timing?
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Wow, pretty nice timing there. Creator takes Game 1, don't think Creator will win X-0, though.
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Funny how often the casters are totally off with their comments.
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The only Korean Zergs at MLG will be Life and Leenock. Because they qualified from top 4 of MLG fall.
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(1924) Creator 1-0 NesTea (1726)
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34.66% 3-0
28.51% 3-1 1-3 6.96%
17.59% 3-2 2-3 12.29%
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80.76% 19.24%
Median outcome: Creator 3-1 NesTea
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On February 19 2013 07:16 Drazzzt wrote:
Funny how often the casters are totally off with their comments.
I wouldn't call it funny, I'd call the the utmost common thing from any caster. Except Artosis because he's some sort of sorcerer.
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Missed game 1, quick recap anyone? ♥
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creator went for a 3 oracle 7gate allin and killed nestea
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On February 19 2013 07:26 TeeTS wrote:
creator went for a 3 oracle 7gate allin and killed nestea
Thank you!
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Does someone knows who the casters are?
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On February 19 2013 07:30 Thurken wrote:
Does someone knows who the casters are?
Axslav and Axeltoss.
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Bad luck, Nestea
Managed to hide spire, creator goes mass stargate anyway
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Another time-warp on air units.
Doesn't anyone read tool-tips anymore?
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Most underwhelming battle ever. Gigantic muta flock against 6-7 phonenix and 8 voids. Muta melted.
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Blizzard really did a good job of splitting the Protoss deathball in HotS.
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NesTea has a bad habit of just massing Mutas and Spines on Whirlwind.
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On February 19 2013 07:41 PhoenixVoid wrote:
NesTea has a bad habit of just massing Mutas and Spines on Whirlwind.
Worked against PartinG :p
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On February 19 2013 07:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Most underwhelming battle ever. Gigantic muta flock against 6-7 phonenix and 8 voids. Muta melted.
Creator didn't even micro the Phoenix, why waste APM?
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ok ZvP in HotS. Protoss goes stargate phoenix voids on such a large map. What does zerg is supprosed to do? Mutas? Don't work. Hydra? Nope... So what?
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On February 19 2013 07:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Most underwhelming battle ever. Gigantic muta flock against 6-7 phonenix and 8 voids. Muta melted.
Mass muta was a bad choice on Nestea's part vs someone who opened phoenix. It just doesn't work.
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Man, Nestea is like twice the age of Creator.
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Nestea in a nutshell: prepare and train hard with complex sophisticated strategies.
When the match starts, suddenly decide to just make mutas. ¯\_(oo-)_/¯
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On February 19 2013 07:44 Bocian wrote:
ok ZvP in HotS. Protoss goes stargate phoenix voids on such a large map. What does zerg is supprosed to do? Mutas? Don't work. Hydra? Nope... So what?
Burrow at hatchery tech obviously! One base all in. You also get fast overlord speed, the Protoss is so confused doesn't know what hit him when your 7 Roaches knock at his door. 
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On February 19 2013 07:44 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 07:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Most underwhelming battle ever. Gigantic muta flock against 6-7 phonenix and 8 voids. Muta melted. Mass muta was a bad choice on Nestea's part vs someone who opened phoenix. It just doesn't work.
Yes, obviously  But, yeah, definitely a bad decision by Nestea. Makes me wonder if he has played HoTS. It's a very uncharacteristic mistake by prof. Nestea. Making massive micro blunders is in character, making stupid build decisions is not.
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On February 19 2013 07:45 Brutaxilos wrote:
Man, Nestea is like twice the age of Creator.
ty for your report, captain obvious
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Mutas worked well at the start, but he has to to get infestors out for fungals and added dps, otherwise phoenixes just lol at mutas with their upgraded range..
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On February 19 2013 07:44 Bocian wrote:
ok ZvP in HotS. Protoss goes stargate phoenix voids on such a large map. What does zerg is supprosed to do? Mutas? Don't work. Hydra? Nope... So what?
Corruptors / Swarm hosts ? Heavy on the corruptor side ?
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All this downtime makes me think the next game will be quick
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On February 19 2013 07:46 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 07:44 Whitewing wrote:On February 19 2013 07:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Most underwhelming battle ever. Gigantic muta flock against 6-7 phonenix and 8 voids. Muta melted. Mass muta was a bad choice on Nestea's part vs someone who opened phoenix. It just doesn't work. Yes, obviously But, yeah, definitely a bad decision by Nestea. Makes me wonder if he has played HoTS. It's a very uncharacteristic mistake by prof. Nestea. Making massive micro blunders is in character, making stupid build decisions is not.
He still has code A so probably not as much.
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NesTea got a bit lucky with Creator's build, but I think he will still hold.
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Nestea gonna get slaughtered.
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Critical error to research Burrow there. I wonder why he even decided to research it there, it would have been so much safer to do it at the main.
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Worst series so far 
G1: Cheese,
G2: STOOPID-Bomb,
G3: Fail-cheese into die to cheese.
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Matches like this just make me want the Warp-in mechanism be removed and protoss redesigned....
These games are so boring; building up 8 minutes and then 1 timing attack/all in
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does anyone know what nestea said at the end of that game?
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hm I am glad Creator made it. However, the games were horribly one-sided and hardly interesting T_T
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On February 19 2013 08:09 Acasta wrote:
Matches like this just make me want the Warp-in mechanism be removed and protoss redesigned....
These games are so boring; building up 8 minutes and then 1 timing attack/all in
So you'd re-design Warpgate so that Protoss don't have all-ins?
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And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release.
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On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release.
I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out.
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On February 19 2013 08:12 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:09 Acasta wrote:
Matches like this just make me want the Warp-in mechanism be removed and protoss redesigned....
These games are so boring; building up 8 minutes and then 1 timing attack/all in So you'd re-design Warpgate so that Protoss don't have all-ins?
So that not all Protoss warp gate attacks are all-ins, preferably.
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On February 19 2013 08:41 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:12 ZAiNs wrote:On February 19 2013 08:09 Acasta wrote:
Matches like this just make me want the Warp-in mechanism be removed and protoss redesigned....
These games are so boring; building up 8 minutes and then 1 timing attack/all in So you'd re-design Warpgate so that Protoss don't have all-ins? So that not all Protoss warp gate attacks are all-ins, preferably.
That's what the mamacore is for.
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On February 19 2013 08:41 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:12 ZAiNs wrote:On February 19 2013 08:09 Acasta wrote:
Matches like this just make me want the Warp-in mechanism be removed and protoss redesigned....
These games are so boring; building up 8 minutes and then 1 timing attack/all in So you'd re-design Warpgate so that Protoss don't have all-ins? So that not all Protoss warp gate attacks are all-ins, preferably.
It's OK, they're not all in anymore. Protoss can just recall if it doesn't work.
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creator creatin victories
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On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out.
Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does.
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On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does.
I'm pretty sure for both the hots showmatches, he just showed up without practicing (or practicing much)
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On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release.
It's ready for release when the SP campaign is finished and polished, they'll balance the rest of the stuff as they go along, like they did with WoL.
Obviously it's imbalanced now, not as badly as WoL was at release but it is and pros will figure out more and more completely imbalanced exploits that can destroy tournaments as they play more games.
You just have to accept that for the first few months everything will be a bit volatile and results don't necessarily represent player skill completely.
Just watch and fun and try not to root for one race too hard, depending on the state of the game and on which one it is you might get depressed about results or get too used to success and get depressed after inevitable nerfs. :D
And no way NesTea has more experience with HotS than Creator, that isn't even close. The Prime kid has practiced quite a bit, like all of his teammates.
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On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does.
I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH.
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On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH.
Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain
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On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain
Prime is really OP right now. They have both SKTRain and KTFlash on the same team
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Wouldn't draw much from this. The games were played live on Gisado's stream right after Nestea gave his post-interview in code A in which he stated he hadn't really been playing HotS. Had a lv 10 account on the stream as well, so take from that what you will.
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On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain
Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-.
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On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-.
Yeah idk. It seems to be a Prime thing. KTFlash = Marineking, SKTRain = Creator, CJEffOrt = Emir/HogU whatever his name is. that new zerg
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On February 19 2013 09:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-. Yeah idk. It seems to be a Prime thing. KTFlash = Marineking, SKTRain = Creator, CJEffOrt = Emir/HogU whatever his name is. that new zerg
It probably ended up as a joke about how MarineKing went by the name Boxer at first
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On February 19 2013 09:26 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-. Yeah idk. It seems to be a Prime thing. KTFlash = Marineking, SKTRain = Creator, CJEffOrt = Emir/HogU whatever his name is. that new zerg It probably ended up as a joke about how MarineKing went by the name Boxer at first
And Creator named himself after NesTea after all.
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After watching the series I feel like phoenix shouldn't be able to decimate mutalisks so easily. They have the range, do bonus damage, and attack while they move. While it doesn't hurt all match ups it seems to easily cut through muta plays, maybe if they could remove the bonus damage vs muta? IDK, there needs to be some drawback for the phoenix maybe reduce shield HP or something.
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On February 19 2013 09:57 TeslasPigeon wrote:
After watching the series I feel like phoenix shouldn't be able to decimate mutalisks so easily. They have the range, do bonus damage, and attack while they move. While it doesn't hurt all match ups it seems to easily cut through muta plays, maybe if they could remove the bonus damage vs muta? IDK, there needs to be some drawback for the phoenix maybe reduce shield HP or something.
I also feel like phoenixes are way too good against mutas, it just seems so 1 dimensional "oh you went mutas? good cause I got phoenixes! I WIN!"
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so funny they increased the muta speed by 5% or something to see more muta play but buffed the hardcounters 10 times more lol, well muta all the way in zvz at least
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If phoenix didn't hard counter muta, protoss would have no variety at all and no follow up to defending it. Zerg would go muta, protoss would answer with blink + storm, and zerg would take every base on the map, pressure with swarm host, and then push with the doom army that protoss doesn't have gas to stop.
And really, it's not exactly any harsher than other unit responses in the game. It's not like zerglings do better against colossi or brood lords do better against vikings.
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On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-.
You mean, SlayerSBoxer?
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Creators PvNestea Was good!
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Very happy Creator qualified. I wish it was not over Nestea though.
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On February 19 2013 08:56 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Prime is really OP right now. They have both SKTRain and KTFlash on the same team
hahaha... rather cheeky antics
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On February 19 2013 18:05 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:56 Veldril wrote:On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Prime is really OP right now. They have both SKTRain and KTFlash on the same team hahaha... rather cheeky antics
They have CJEffort as well. Might be adding Mvp, Life, DRG, Soulkey and Bogus next.
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I am not sure how i messed this post up T-T
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Glad I stoped watching after 1st game.
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EPT
Flash - Top 4 2012 MLG Fall Championship
