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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
February 18 2013 08:54 GMT
#641
Flying reaching a 3-win streak.

Scoring:

WJS +6
EG-TL -3

free +4
ZerO +4
sHy +4
Flying +5
Puma +1
Light +2
Stephano +1
SoulKey +2

all other WJS players +1
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
February 18 2013 08:54 GMT
#642
On February 18 2013 17:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Is EG-TL confirmed to take part in next PL season ?


Nothing is confirmed, for all we know this may be the last PL season
Everyday Girl's Day~!
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
February 18 2013 08:56 GMT
#643
On February 18 2013 17:51 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
Will EG-TL ever hit their stride? it pains me to see some of the best players ever to play SC2 fail to show their real skill.
I hope they can be the come back kid's of proleague and make it to playoffs at the end and take it.


Maybe this is their real skill.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 18 2013 08:57 GMT
#644
On February 18 2013 17:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Is EG-TL confirmed to take part in next PL season ?


I'm not sure they would even consider it personally. The whole notion of locking down their players in a weekly schedule league in Korea for half a year or longer seems inconsistent with how these organizations operate and what they need their players to do.

They probably gave it a go this season because they thought they still had the edge on most other teams' lineups and it generated some hype initially.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
February 18 2013 09:05 GMT
#645
I think the original 7 Proleague teams seem to take preparation for Proleague much more seriously than EG-TL seems to. From what I have read, the 7 originals prioritize Proleague above everything else, even GSL and individual tournaments.

If, say, Taeja and Stephano focus on other tourneys too, of course EG-TL won't do as well.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 18 2013 09:06 GMT
#646
On February 18 2013 17:47 ppshchik wrote:
It's sad to see the once immortal Jaedong losing like that, but the romance with TaekBangLeeSsang has to stop. Jaedong, Bisu and Stork were close to nothing towards the end of BW (especially after 2010 where Jaedong and Stork both got beaten up bad by Flash / Fantasy).

I serious question whether those Kespa / BW / Elephant fanboys all switched to SC2 immediately after its release. True loyal BW followers knew that Fantasy > Flash, Jangbi > BIsu, Soulkey / Zero > Jaedong towards the end of BW.

When fans don't see TaekBangLeeSsang dominating in SC2 they instead vent their anger on the game itself with shit like "SC2 is too easy to show their potential!". To be honest I find Soulkey, Fantasy, and Jangbi doing better than TaekBangLeeSsang in SC2 makes more sense than the latter dominating in it.

The elephant in the room is true, it's just that people guessed the elephants wrong.


All of that is debatable. Fantasy beat Flash in ONE Bo5 while they both did very well in Proleague. Jangbi won two OSLs, but was pretty mediocre in Proleague, which is the only place that Bisu has been good for years. Jaedong was showing a lot of weakness and looking worse than Zero, but it's not like Soulkey was putting up incredible results either.

Also, no idea why you're saying that Fantasy is doing better than Flash in Starcraft 2. Flash has already advanced in code A (against a very tough opponent) while Fantasy has yet to do so, and Fantasy has lost 7 straight games in Proleague now.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
February 18 2013 09:06 GMT
#647
On February 18 2013 17:57 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 17:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Is EG-TL confirmed to take part in next PL season ?


I'm not sure they would even consider it personally. The whole notion of locking down their players in a weekly schedule league in Korea for half a year or longer seems inconsistent with how these organizations operate and what they need their players to do.

They probably gave it a go this season because they thought they still had the edge on most other teams' lineups and it generated some hype initially.


Most of their good players are Korean, they have to play in some kind of team league.


Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
February 18 2013 09:08 GMT
#648
On February 18 2013 17:51 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
Will EG-TL ever hit their stride? it pains me to see some of the best players ever to play SC2 fail to show their real skill.
I hope they can be the come back kid's of proleague and make it to playoffs at the end and take it.


The kespa players are surpassing them, it's pretty straightforward.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
February 18 2013 09:09 GMT
#649
I think they should replace trOt with a new head coach for round 4. He has clearly failed with this team and as hots will be played in round 4 it's a good time to start over. Why is he not picking stephano to play at least to avoid embarrassing looses like tonight?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
February 18 2013 09:11 GMT
#650
On February 18 2013 17:39 johnny123 wrote:
hwanni and the coach suck, Thats the only thing that can explain such a poor performance.

You mean to tell me a team thats so stacked Taeja/Hero/Stephano/Jyp/Jd/Revival/Thorzain/Huk/Puma are made to look this silly against literally no name sc2 players ? they literally started playing sc2 mid last year while still playing BW and not even our best players from EG TL look favored against ANY kespa player.

This is just disgracefull.


i wouldn't call some of these kespa guys no-names anymore, when they're handing Taeja/Hero/Stephano/Jyp/Jd/Revival/Thorzain/Huk/Puma beatdowns after beatdowns week after week.

not to mention their success in gsl.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
February 18 2013 09:12 GMT
#651
Well...time for HotS

EG curse too stronk in here

Money cant buy success.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 18 2013 09:12 GMT
#652
On February 18 2013 17:47 ppshchik wrote:
It's sad to see the once immortal Jaedong losing like that, but the romance with TaekBangLeeSsang has to stop. Jaedong, Bisu and Stork were close to nothing towards the end of BW (especially after 2010 where Jaedong and Stork both got beaten up bad by Flash / Fantasy).

I serious question whether those Kespa / BW / Elephant fanboys all switched to SC2 immediately after its release. True loyal BW followers knew that Fantasy > Flash, Jangbi > BIsu, Soulkey / Zero > Jaedong towards the end of BW.

When fans don't see TaekBangLeeSsang dominating in SC2 they instead vent their anger on the game itself with shit like "SC2 is too easy to show their potential!". To be honest I find Soulkey, Fantasy, and Jangbi doing better than TaekBangLeeSsang in SC2 makes more sense than the latter dominating in it.

The elephant in the room is true, it's just that people guessed the elephants wrong.

the elephant article was written in a time when the likes of nestea were dominating sc2, along with the terran rain etc. guys like creator, life etc are new talents, not something the elephant article considered.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 18 2013 09:13 GMT
#653
wow, 4-0'd? I didn't expect that result. Was hoping that at least Jaedong won his game >< EG-TL is definitely not performing up to par but I do have to wonder if its due to their (non-existant?) training regimen. As mentioned, the other teams take proleague seriously above all other leagues but I get the feeling that EG-TL players aren't. That or they already reached their limit and the KeSPA players have already caught up to them and surpassing them which is quite possible. I guess the only confusing part is how Jaedong still can't seem to play ZvP correctly. I didn't see the game but from the comments, it seems he made corrupters and never morphed them into BLs then lost them all to archons? :O
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
February 18 2013 09:14 GMT
#654
On February 18 2013 18:09 archonOOid wrote:
I think they should replace trOt with a new head coach for round 4. He has clearly failed with this team and as hots will be played in round 4 it's a good time to start over. Why is he not picking stephano to play at least to avoid embarrassing looses like tonight?

yeah always blame the coach. cause like always the beloved players can't do anything wrong.

it's not the coach faults if people don't fucking perform like they should be.
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 09:16:30
February 18 2013 09:16 GMT
#655
The EGTL-Roster isn`t stacked with mass great players at all.
When they play in PL i only got a good feeling when Taeja, Hero, Stephano
and maybe Revival are playing. Players like Huk, Thorzain, Puma, JYP and Zenio
always seem like an automatic loss even if their match record doesn`t say so.

With that said, Taeja and Hero haven`t been on their top level
for weeks....
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
February 18 2013 09:16 GMT
#656
On February 18 2013 17:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Is EG-TL confirmed to take part in next PL season ?


doubt it, they only joined because they thought the kespa players would be easy prey for their collection of esf veterans.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 18 2013 09:21 GMT
#657
I don't really care about EG-TL as a team, but it's immensely disappointing seeing Jaedong continue to be sub-par. He unquestionably has the work ethic, and most definitely has the mechanics to succeed...so why isn't he? Why is he so much better in ZvZ (2x the winrate) than ZvT or ZvP? I can't wrap my head around the x-factors that are holding him back overall and in certain matchups.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
February 18 2013 09:21 GMT
#658
nice result.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
February 18 2013 09:21 GMT
#659
I feel like EGTL is falling behind in proleague because they just don't have enough people to practice with in Korea... I feel like if everyone from EG and TL were in Korea they would be doing much better than they are. Then again I could just be a sad fan who is grasping at straws
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 09:22:14
February 18 2013 09:21 GMT
#660
On February 18 2013 18:21 Tachion wrote:
I don't really care about EG-TL as a team, but it's immensely disappointing seeing Jaedong continue to be sub-par. He unquestionably has the work ethic, and most definitely has the mechanics to succeed...so why isn't he? Why is he so much better in ZvZ (2x the winrate) than ZvT or ZvP? I can't wrap my head around the x-factors that are holding him back overall and in certain matchups.

cause mechanics win you ZvZs. in ZvT and ZvP not so much.
and he was always known for being a good mechanic player and not the little genius. (ofc smart player but still.)
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