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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
February 18 2013 09:22 GMT
#661
always nice to see eg-tl getting owned :D. even nicer to see people blaming the coach/management and w/e else except the all-perfect players. Apparently Pro League isn't Dreamhack, gotta try harder
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 09:30:12
February 18 2013 09:26 GMT
#662
On February 18 2013 18:22 Kabras wrote:
always nice to see eg-tl getting owned :D. even nicer to see people blaming the coach/management and w/e else except the all-perfect players. Apparently Pro League isn't Dreamhack, gotta try harder

Coaches do play a big factor. FXO didn't win 2 GSTL based upon their roster strength alone.

As for whether EGTL should continue with Proleague, I would say no. The lackluster English stream, and the fact that they are being owned, would mean that they aren't drawing many viewers. I watched it a bit to start, but I am already feeling disinterested.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 09:30:28
February 18 2013 09:30 GMT
#663
Uuuuh... this is getting pretty bad, lol

Hope the guys make it in GSL
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 18 2013 09:30 GMT
#664
On February 18 2013 18:21 Tachion wrote:
I don't really care about EG-TL as a team, but it's immensely disappointing seeing Jaedong continue to be sub-par. He unquestionably has the work ethic, and most definitely has the mechanics to succeed...so why isn't he? Why is he so much better in ZvZ (2x the winrate) than ZvT or ZvP? I can't wrap my head around the x-factors that are holding him back overall and in certain matchups.


I can tell you that easily.

ZvZ you can be aggressive you don't have to turtle to consistently win. Zerg verse Terran you can't be as aggressive and eventually you do have to turtle and try to get that deathball, zvp is just worse for it as you almost have to go turtle mode as really the only ways you can be aggressive verse toss in wol is to pretty much hope toss messes up forcefields.

I have said it before and I will say it again, I would judge Jaedong based on how he does in hots within the next few months after release. WoL does NOT fit his play style at all. He is not the type of player to sit back, make a ton of spines and try to get a deathball.

Hots zerg is very different from wol zerg (you can be aggressive, you don't have to go broodlords anymore) and this is when imo jaedong will shine.
When I think of something else, something will go here
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
February 18 2013 09:32 GMT
#665
I'd rather see players do well in individual leagues than teamleagues, Taeja is already in ro8 and Hero in Code A Round 3 so i just hope these players focus more on their individual leagues.
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
February 18 2013 09:32 GMT
#666
On February 18 2013 18:21 yawnoC wrote:
I feel like EGTL is falling behind in proleague because they just don't have enough people to practice with in Korea... I feel like if everyone from EG and TL were in Korea they would be doing much better than they are. Then again I could just be a sad fan who is grasping at straws


EGTL has as many players in korea as 3rd place CJ and 4th place team 8. you definitely cant use player numbers as an excuse.

plus, do you really think adding practice partners like ret, sheth, idra, incontrol etc will make any difference?
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 18 2013 09:36 GMT
#667
NEVER vote for EG-TL in LB if you want to lose!
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 09:38:11
February 18 2013 09:37 GMT
#668
On February 18 2013 18:32 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 18:21 yawnoC wrote:
I feel like EGTL is falling behind in proleague because they just don't have enough people to practice with in Korea... I feel like if everyone from EG and TL were in Korea they would be doing much better than they are. Then again I could just be a sad fan who is grasping at straws


EGTL has as many players in korea as 3rd place CJ and 4th place team 8. you definitely cant use player numbers as an excuse.

plus, do you really think adding practice partners like ret, sheth, idra, incontrol etc will make any difference?

and you think the A Teamers only practice with each other? what do you think why they have B Teamers and online practice partners? decoration?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 18 2013 09:41 GMT
#669
I'm honestly not sure Proleague teams are as big as they once used to be in the number of trainees they have off the A team roster. It would be nice to have some information on this though. They used to have quite large B teams and a whole bunch of non-contracted practice partners in BW.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
February 18 2013 09:41 GMT
#670
On February 18 2013 18:37 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 18:32 synaptik wrote:
On February 18 2013 18:21 yawnoC wrote:
I feel like EGTL is falling behind in proleague because they just don't have enough people to practice with in Korea... I feel like if everyone from EG and TL were in Korea they would be doing much better than they are. Then again I could just be a sad fan who is grasping at straws


EGTL has as many players in korea as 3rd place CJ and 4th place team 8. you definitely cant use player numbers as an excuse.

plus, do you really think adding practice partners like ret, sheth, idra, incontrol etc will make any difference?

and you think the A Teamers only practice with each other? what do you think why they have B Teamers and online practice partners? decoration?


STX and EG-TL are good buddies, they practice with each other sometimes.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 18 2013 09:52 GMT
#671
Pretty funny reading the live reports and comments after each game, heh!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 18 2013 10:06 GMT
#672
VODs for Games 1, 2, and 4 are up. Game 3 not posted on Twitch for some reason
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 10:07:25
February 18 2013 10:07 GMT
#673
On February 18 2013 18:08 Rarak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 17:51 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
Will EG-TL ever hit their stride? it pains me to see some of the best players ever to play SC2 fail to show their real skill.
I hope they can be the come back kid's of proleague and make it to playoffs at the end and take it.


The kespa players are surpassing them, it's pretty straightforward.

it's not the skill it's the way the players are being brought out( order of the line-up)
Moderatorlickypiddy
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
February 18 2013 10:10 GMT
#674
On February 18 2013 18:36 GunSec wrote:
NEVER vote for EG-TL in LB if you want to lose!


you mean win right? Never vote for them if you want LB pts
and my axe
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
February 18 2013 10:10 GMT
#675
lol Light and Soulkey on my team.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 18 2013 10:16 GMT
#676
Maybe they will make a comeback with TLO in HotS PL, assuming they switch to HotS for later rounds.
HOLY CHECK!
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
February 18 2013 10:21 GMT
#677
It´s alright, EG-TL is still better than KT in the current round.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 18 2013 10:23 GMT
#678
yay WJS for the points :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 18 2013 10:24 GMT
#679
Ive already stopped watching proleague. The casters are just way too bad sorry to say. Thats the main problem, not egtl losing. While its sad theyre losing all the time, with those casters they could be winning 4-0 and I still wouldnt watch. Will spend my money on gstl instead I think.
Amove for Aiur
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
February 18 2013 10:33 GMT
#680
On February 18 2013 18:41 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 18:37 rasers wrote:
On February 18 2013 18:32 synaptik wrote:
On February 18 2013 18:21 yawnoC wrote:
I feel like EGTL is falling behind in proleague because they just don't have enough people to practice with in Korea... I feel like if everyone from EG and TL were in Korea they would be doing much better than they are. Then again I could just be a sad fan who is grasping at straws


EGTL has as many players in korea as 3rd place CJ and 4th place team 8. you definitely cant use player numbers as an excuse.

plus, do you really think adding practice partners like ret, sheth, idra, incontrol etc will make any difference?

and you think the A Teamers only practice with each other? what do you think why they have B Teamers and online practice partners? decoration?


STX and EG-TL are good buddies, they practice with each other sometimes.

You can tell from the standings.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
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