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On January 12 2013 06:23 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:18 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about  Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. Well you might disagree because you and many other balance whiners got no clue about sc2. These matches was absolutely not an indicate about balance issue but an indicator of a well prepared Goswser. Don´t get me wrong the match up do got some issues. Infestor/broodlords is to strong but how many times in these 3 matches you saw that army composition? But I understand its easier just to shout balance whines then understanding why Goswser won
Ah, yes. The old "you've got no clue but I'm an expert" response. Well played, I'm sure you're a real Sun Tzu of starcraft.
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On January 12 2013 06:23 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:21 revel8 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:19 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. This got nothing to do with mechanical skills but everything to do that Goswser studied and prepared very well for MVP while I guess MVP thought this would be easy spanking a foreigner and didn't prepare at all. And we see the results You know. Maybe i would buy that if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg. Huk is in Code S again. And he was seeded into the easiest group in order to get there. You all can keep sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to hear the truth, but that doesn't make it any less true.
I replied to someone claiming something was a fact. It wasn't. End of story.
You responding to my correction changes nothing about that. Nothing wrong with people making an argument, but if they claim something is a fact then should expect to get called on it when it is untrue.
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On January 12 2013 06:21 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:19 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. This got nothing to do with mechanical skills but everything to do that Goswser studied and prepared very well for MVP while I guess MVP thought this would be easy spanking a foreigner and didn't prepare at all. And we see the results You know. Maybe i would buy that if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg. Huk is in Code S again. So not a fact then.
Yeah and i am so happy for him.
And i was exited during his games
And i will cheer for him
But he only impressed me against flying (cuz the way he pressured him and took an expo was really nice) who was not very impressive, and also we all knwe that foreigner ps are able to take korean ps in PvPs
Against Fantasy he did a gateway all in which was well executed, but fantasy did not scout and looked lost against the build, i doubt that will work in Code S.
And the game against Center was just weird...
I think people waaaaaay underestimated huk like he was a noob, and now they are overhyping him, like he's going to take code S, when in truth, he's just a slightly inferior version of MC.
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Sweden3653 Posts
I hope Nestea goes for a similar build but with an earlier third.
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On January 12 2013 06:24 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:23 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:18 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. Well you might disagree because you and many other balance whiners got no clue about sc2. These matches was absolutely not an indicate about balance issue but an indicator of a well prepared Goswser. Don´t get me wrong the match up do got some issues. Infestor/broodlords is to strong but how many times in these 3 matches you saw that army composition? But I understand its easier just to shout balance whines then understanding why Goswser won Ah, yes. The old "you've got no clue but I'm an expert" response. Well played, I'm sure you're a real Sun Tzu of starcraft.
Well please enlighten us why these games was an indicator of balance issues?. I'm dying to hear
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Good night, sweet stream.
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Sweden3653 Posts
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On January 12 2013 06:28 shabby wrote:
Good night, sweet stream.
Time to learn some french
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On January 12 2013 06:27 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:24 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:23 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:18 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. Well you might disagree because you and many other balance whiners got no clue about sc2. These matches was absolutely not an indicate about balance issue but an indicator of a well prepared Goswser. Don´t get me wrong the match up do got some issues. Infestor/broodlords is to strong but how many times in these 3 matches you saw that army composition? But I understand its easier just to shout balance whines then understanding why Goswser won Ah, yes. The old "you've got no clue but I'm an expert" response. Well played, I'm sure you're a real Sun Tzu of starcraft. Well please enlighten us why these games was an indicator of balance issues?. I'm dying to hear
If you'd actually read my posts that you've been replying to instead of going off on mindless fanboy rants you'd have known that I've already stated that this is neither the place nor the time.
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On January 12 2013 06:27 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:24 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:23 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:18 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. Well you might disagree because you and many other balance whiners got no clue about sc2. These matches was absolutely not an indicate about balance issue but an indicator of a well prepared Goswser. Don´t get me wrong the match up do got some issues. Infestor/broodlords is to strong but how many times in these 3 matches you saw that army composition? But I understand its easier just to shout balance whines then understanding why Goswser won Ah, yes. The old "you've got no clue but I'm an expert" response. Well played, I'm sure you're a real Sun Tzu of starcraft. Well please enlighten us why these games was an indicator of balance issues?. I'm dying to hear
You know. Maybe i would buy that preperation story if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg.(yeah yeah huk. I know)
And even if you are right. If the best foreigner in BW, idra(or take any other one you like better), would prepare like 2 month straight to beat someone in a Bo5 who is an accomplished A-Teamer, say Stats. You think he would have been able to do that? Cuz i certainly don't see it. So it still feels weird to me that things like this are possible, in a non mirror matchup(cuz in a mirror matchup, i see how things are sometimes coinflippy)
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On January 12 2013 06:25 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:23 forsooth wrote:On January 12 2013 06:21 revel8 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:19 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all.
But.
In which world.
Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. This got nothing to do with mechanical skills but everything to do that Goswser studied and prepared very well for MVP while I guess MVP thought this would be easy spanking a foreigner and didn't prepare at all. And we see the results You know. Maybe i would buy that if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg. Huk is in Code S again. And he was seeded into the easiest group in order to get there. You all can keep sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to hear the truth, but that doesn't make it any less true. I replied to someone claiming something was a fact. It wasn't. End of story. You responding to my correction changes nothing about that. Nothing wrong with people making an argument, but if they claim something is a fact then should expect to get called on it when it is untrue.
A single "exception" to the claim does not an argument worth bothering to type make.
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terrible placement for hydra den xD
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I'm not surprised that MVP lost in an online game.
I swear most of MVPs success comes from having balls of steel in live matches (well that and good mechanics).
Edit: Hell I'll even conjecture that MVP's play seems to be enhanced by the spectacle of live matches
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Every ZvZ we endure is another zerg down, thank god.
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Lol at ZvZ. The only thing it has going for it is:
there are no collosi.
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On January 12 2013 06:30 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 06:27 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:24 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:23 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:18 gillon wrote:On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote:On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote:
It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all.
So well done Goswser
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He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. Well you might disagree because you and many other balance whiners got no clue about sc2. These matches was absolutely not an indicate about balance issue but an indicator of a well prepared Goswser. Don´t get me wrong the match up do got some issues. Infestor/broodlords is to strong but how many times in these 3 matches you saw that army composition? But I understand its easier just to shout balance whines then understanding why Goswser won Ah, yes. The old "you've got no clue but I'm an expert" response. Well played, I'm sure you're a real Sun Tzu of starcraft. Well please enlighten us why these games was an indicator of balance issues?. I'm dying to hear You know. Maybe i would buy that preperation story if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg.(yeah yeah huk. I know) And even if you are right. If the best foreigner in BW, idra(or take any other one you like better), would prepare like 2 month straight to beat someone in a Bo5 who is an accomplished A-Teamer, say Stats. You think he would have been able to do that? Cuz i certainly don't see it. So it still feels weird to me that things like this are possible, in a non mirror matchup(cuz in a mirror matchup, i see how things are sometimes coinflippy)
It feels weird to me that you're vast knowledge of competitve Starcraft is somehow without knowledge of an unknown sniping a player that has hundreds of recorded matches. I'm confused that with all of your wisdom you are somehow unable to grasp such a concept and instead blame game design.
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wow life dodged a fungal sick
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United States15275 Posts
Leenock has this game.
WTF, Leenock? >_>
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