On January 12 2013 06:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
ahh Leenock! what was that last fight! walk right into a concave O_o
ahh Leenock! what was that last fight! walk right into a concave O_o
"For freedom!"
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:15 Shellshock1122 wrote: ahh Leenock! what was that last fight! walk right into a concave O_o "For freedom!" | ||
FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:10 Assaulter wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2013 06:07 gillon wrote: On January 12 2013 06:07 Qwerty85 wrote: On January 12 2013 06:04 Gevna wrote: All of this against one of the best upcoming foreigners, not that surprising. If I had an euro every time I heard that in 2012. There were like 10 best upcoming zerg foreigners last year. So much talent, bro. We all should be happy that all these new up-and-coming talented foreign zerg players are able to take down top korean terrans consistently You said this because you don't come to Iron Squid ![]() I was so exited to see MVP play in the flesh ![]() | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:11 Zheryn wrote: I don't understand Leenock's build at all, why get a third at the perfect time for your opponent to deny it with mutas :/ the build didn't make a whole lot of sense to me either. I thought maybe it was going to be 4 queen into 1/1 speed roach timing, but his lair started waaaaay too late for that. skipping ling speed and baneling nest just isn't that great in my opinion. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote: Were the Goswser-MVP matches that badly in favor of Goswser? I only saw game 2 and 3, in game 2 he hardcountered mvp's build with a roach rush and in game 3 it was pretty standard and he just slowly won an advantage with ling/infestor/bane/ultra | ||
Makro
France16890 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote: Were the Goswser-MVP matches that badly in favor of Goswser? yes for the first and the second one, not for the third one | ||
gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote: On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote: On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote: It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all. But. In which world. Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about ![]() Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. | ||
Gimmeurladderpoints
Germany372 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote: It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all. But. In which world. Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. This got nothing to do with mechanical skills but everything to do that Goswser studied and prepared very well for MVP while I guess MVP thought this would be easy spanking a foreigner and didn't prepare at all. And we see the results You know. Maybe i would buy that if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg. And even if you are right. If the best foreigner in BW, idra(or take any other one you like better), would prepare like 2 month straight to beat someone in a Bo5 who is an accomplished A-Teamer, say Stats. You think he would have been able to do that? Cuz i certainly don't see it. So it still feels weird to me that things like this are possible, in a non mirror matchup(cuz in a mirror matchup, i see how things are sometimes coinflippy) | ||
n0ise
3452 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:16 WhiteSatin wrote: hey guys where can i watch VODS? i just tuned in and so i lost all the games up until now Vods seem to be up on the twitch page, under Videos ![]() | ||
Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:04 Gevna wrote: Are people really surprised about MVP losing to Goswer ? I mean we all know he is struggling a lot with his wrists, and can't really train that much. Moreover MVP has never been impressive in foreign tournaments, he focused exclusively on GSL. All of this against one of the best upcoming foreigners, not that surprising. Never been impressive in foreign tournaments? Get out of here with that shit. He doesnt travel a lot and yet he has won Blizzcon, MLG, IEM and WCG. | ||
figq
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:19 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote: On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote: It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all. But. In which world. Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. This got nothing to do with mechanical skills but everything to do that Goswser studied and prepared very well for MVP while I guess MVP thought this would be easy spanking a foreigner and didn't prepare at all. And we see the results You know. Maybe i would buy that if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg. Huk is in Code S again. So not a fact then. | ||
gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote: Were the Goswser-MVP matches that badly in favor of Goswser? Well, they were in favor of something. | ||
Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:18 gillon wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2013 06:16 Benjamin99 wrote: On January 12 2013 06:12 n0ise wrote: On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote: On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote: It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all. But. In which world. Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. You're starting to understand 30% of what a lot of people are complaining about ![]() Whine whine whine and more balance whine but the problem is these games had nothing to do with balance issues but everything to do with an extremely well prepared Goswser who countered MVP time after time. Im wondering how much time Goswser spend analysing MVP replay on these maps. I disagree, but won't start a discussion of it here because it is neither the time nor the place. Well you might disagree because you and many other balance whiners got no clue about sc2. These matches was absolutely not an indicate about balance issue but an indicator of a well prepared Goswser. Don´t get me wrong the match up do got some issues. Infestor/broodlords is to strong but how many times in these 3 matches you saw that army composition? But I understand its easier just to shout balance whines then understanding why Goswser won | ||
forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:21 revel8 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2013 06:19 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 12 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote: On January 12 2013 06:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 12 2013 05:58 Benjamin99 wrote: It seems to me Goswser prepared really well and knew exactly was MVP was going to do and MVP didn't prepare at all. So well done Goswser On January 12 2013 05:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: U know. I kinda .... want to cry a little. I mean. No offense to gowser he has improved a lot. And i hope he's happy and all. But. In which world. Is he a better player. He was in this series it was not even close. Yeah I saw that he slaugtherd MVP. But how is that possible. I mean. MVP is basicly the closest thing we got to a SC2 bonjwa? How is it possible for some pretty good but absolutly unremarkable foreigner to come out of nowhere and 3-0 the guy. I am concerned. It either means that MVP has lost his ooomph. Or that the game design makes it easy for one race to eliminate skill gaps. Or MVP had an reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally off day. but you know... still feels weird to me. Skill gaps? Yea I get you disguised balance whine post but if you look at the matches Goswser knew exactly what MVP was going to do. This got nothing to do with mechanical skills but everything to do that Goswser studied and prepared very well for MVP while I guess MVP thought this would be easy spanking a foreigner and didn't prepare at all. And we see the results You know. Maybe i would buy that if not for the fact that every single foreigner who is able to produce results over the last 8-9 month was a zerg. Huk is in Code S again. And he was seeded into the easiest group in order to get there. You all can keep sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to hear the truth, but that doesn't make it any less true. | ||
IronSquid
France487 Posts
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
On January 11 2013 16:00 Inzan1ty wrote: Predictions HerO 2-3 MarineKingPrime Comment its really time for MKP to win something again and after the Up/Downs HerO looks a bit more shaky as of late viOlet 2-3 MC Comment The Bosstoss is back in Code S. After a long dryspell hes hungry to boost his wallet again Goswser 3-1 Mvp Comment Shocker of the tournament? Not really, we all know in what condition Mvp is right now and I doubt he will take this too serious, probably prefers to recover for GSL. Life 1-3 Leenock Comment Life is the best player in the world right now, but Leenock is out for revenge and its his turn again to get on top of the Zerg throne. Sounds biased? Hell who doesnt love Leenock... called, everything so far, now LEENOCK BABY !!!!! | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On January 12 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote: Were the Goswser-MVP matches that badly in favor of Goswser? Goswser played very well and deserved to win each game. The last game was closer but Goswser kept on winning the crucial battles. | ||
SicPro
United States202 Posts
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