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TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 17:30:17
December 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#1221
Poll for today!

Next match is Stephano vs. Snute! On the couch for you guys TLO, RotterdaM and DIMAGA.
Commentator
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#1222
I think people will agree with me that I can't wait for HotS to inject some variety (and increased skillcap) into the game. Watching Stephano's interview made me sad (when he says mechanics don't matter as zerg)
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Mauru
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany8 Posts
December 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#1223
Kevin van der Kooi ‏@RotterdaM08
Ready for the first semi Final of HSC VI? I dont wanna hear any zvz whining! this is homestory zvz. Lets go nuts. :D +1shot for every roach.

Lets get drunk :D
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#1224
On December 23 2012 02:27 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:26 Fenrax wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:25 bpf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is

cause everyone knows, that it depens on the number of flips

So then it is 51% - 50%?
...


unless one side of the coin got a patch, then it gets 67-33%


HAAHAHAAHAAH

AWSM!


I love how people keep saying "patch" and probably have no idea what it actually was or did.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#1225
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#1226
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#1227
On December 23 2012 02:30 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:27 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:26 Fenrax wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:25 bpf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is

cause everyone knows, that it depens on the number of flips

So then it is 51% - 50%?
...


unless one side of the coin got a patch, then it gets 67-33%


HAAHAHAAHAAH

AWSM!


I love how people keep saying "patch" and probably have no idea what it actually was or did.


It made the foreigners work harder.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
December 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#1228
On December 23 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
I think people will agree with me that I can't wait for HotS to inject some variety (and increased skillcap) into the game. Watching Stephano's interview made me sad (when he says mechanics don't matter as zerg)


Where did you find this interview ?
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#1229
On December 23 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
I think people will agree with me that I can't wait for HotS to inject some variety (and increased skillcap) into the game. Watching Stephano's interview made me sad (when he says mechanics don't matter as zerg)


Link to interview?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#1230
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.


actually yes; goggle it since you would ignore any proof I give you.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
December 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#1231
On December 23 2012 02:28 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:25 bpf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is

cause everyone knows, that it depens on the number of flips

So then it is 51% - 50%?
...

wow, i edited in the next sentence so everybody understands that there is something wrong about my statement


Statistics and probabilities are hard for some people
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2670 Posts
December 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#1232
On December 23 2012 02:30 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:27 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:26 Fenrax wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:25 bpf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is

cause everyone knows, that it depens on the number of flips

So then it is 51% - 50%?
...


unless one side of the coin got a patch, then it gets 67-33%


HAAHAHAAHAAH

AWSM!


I love how people keep saying "patch" and probably have no idea what it actually was or did.


It's the same nonsens like saying all of those 4 players in the finals are CLEARLY better than everyone else and definitely the top players in europe.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12904 Posts
December 22 2012 17:32 GMT
#1233
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Gamblers-Take-Note-The-Odds-in-a-Coin-Flip-Arent-Quite-50-50-181022961.html
looks like he is right.

TL - where you learn more than schools
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
December 22 2012 17:32 GMT
#1234
On December 23 2012 02:28 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:26 Mista_Masta wrote:
I want to believe that the people advancing simply played better, but it's disheartening to see that the only Zerg that lost in the Ro8 was in fact playing against another Zerg. I really want to believe that for this tournament, Symbol, Stephano, XlorD and Snute were the best four players, but it gets increasingly difficult...


Snute and Stephano have both had great runs this tourney. Just look at who they've beaten.

I know, and that's the point. I haven't watched all the games, but from what I've seen, they played good and beat some of the great players. But were they simply better or were they simply playing the better race? I don't mean to say they don't deserve it - I'm just getting frustrated with ZvZ for the semis, the 3rd/4th match, and the finals...
Ajaco92
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway152 Posts
December 22 2012 17:32 GMT
#1235
On December 23 2012 02:31 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
I think people will agree with me that I can't wait for HotS to inject some variety (and increased skillcap) into the game. Watching Stephano's interview made me sad (when he says mechanics don't matter as zerg)


Where did you find this interview ?

On the internet.
What doesnt kill you make your race OP.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 22 2012 17:33 GMT
#1236
On December 23 2012 02:31 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
I think people will agree with me that I can't wait for HotS to inject some variety (and increased skillcap) into the game. Watching Stephano's interview made me sad (when he says mechanics don't matter as zerg)


Where did you find this interview ?


It was on the Acer website, it was like a 40 minute interview. In it he says there are definitely patch zergs and that players like DRG have way better mechanics but that it doesn't matter.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
December 22 2012 17:33 GMT
#1237
On December 23 2012 02:32 Ajaco92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:31 Insoleet wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
I think people will agree with me that I can't wait for HotS to inject some variety (and increased skillcap) into the game. Watching Stephano's interview made me sad (when he says mechanics don't matter as zerg)


Where did you find this interview ?

On the internet.


You, sir, are a very boring guy.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
December 22 2012 17:33 GMT
#1238
On December 23 2012 02:30 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.


The gap is not closing. The best foreigners play at EGTL and they don't even get to play in Proleague and when they play the get smacked. Stephano is the only exception I think.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3401 Posts
December 22 2012 17:33 GMT
#1239
All zerg semis won't make me tune-out but if they keep being so defensive about it and repeat how it doesn't matter I'll be gone from pure annoyance.
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
December 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1240
Guess this is where HSC ends for me cant be bothered to watch zvzvzvzvzvz
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