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Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1241
On December 23 2012 02:32 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Gamblers-Take-Note-The-Odds-in-a-Coin-Flip-Arent-Quite-50-50-181022961.html
looks like he is right.

TL - where you learn more than schools


TL is for learning; schools are for shooting...

*too soon?

User was warned for this post
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kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
December 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1242
On December 23 2012 02:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:23 n0ise wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners zergs and koreans is not that huge.


fixed ! :D


Yea because its not like Thorzain and Mana has won major tournaments in the last 6 months is it?. I said this for 6m onths the top EU players can compete with the koreans(-minus Stephano he dont count) and slowly the gap is closing. I don't think EU will never ever get equal to Korea since Korea got so many more pro players. But its for sure looked better in 2012 then 2011 in EU

it's not closing just an expected result if you throw 4 koreans in a 32 player tournament.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1243
On December 23 2012 02:33 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:30 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.


The gap is not closing. The best foreigners play at EGTL and they don't even get to play in Proleague and when they play the get smacked. Stephano is the only exception I think.


TLO would stand a chance. But huk and thorzain...
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1244
On December 23 2012 02:34 ScaringKids wrote:
Guess this is where HSC ends for me cant be bothered to watch zvzvzvzvzvz

Nice to know, have a nice night.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1245
On December 23 2012 02:33 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:30 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.


The gap is not closing. The best foreigners play at EGTL and they don't even get to play in Proleague and when they play the get smacked. Stephano is the only exception I think.

Not really.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
December 22 2012 17:35 GMT
#1246
Lol zergfest t_t
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Emuking
Profile Joined June 2012
United States144 Posts
December 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#1247
On December 23 2012 02:34 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:32 ETisME wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Gamblers-Take-Note-The-Odds-in-a-Coin-Flip-Arent-Quite-50-50-181022961.html
looks like he is right.

TL - where you learn more than schools



TL is for learning; schools are for shooting...

*too soon?


are you serious
When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breath, then you'll be successful.
Storm-Giant
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain416 Posts
December 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#1248
On December 23 2012 02:26 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:25 bpf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is

cause everyone knows, that it depens on the number of flips

So then it is 51% - 50%?
...


unless one side of the coin got a patch, then it gets 67-33%

So true xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
<3 Rain
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#1249
On December 23 2012 02:36 Emuking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:34 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:32 ETisME wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Gamblers-Take-Note-The-Odds-in-a-Coin-Flip-Arent-Quite-50-50-181022961.html
looks like he is right.

TL - where you learn more than schools



TL is for learning; schools are for shooting...

*too soon?


are you serious


Get your gun.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
December 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#1250
On December 23 2012 02:23 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners zergs and koreans is not that huge.


fixed ! :D
yeah right, and MC lost to whom?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#1251
Nooo I just started watching and it is already all ZvZ. T_T
Relaaja
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland193 Posts
December 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#1252
On December 23 2012 02:33 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:30 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.


The gap is not closing. The best foreigners play at EGTL and they don't even get to play in Proleague and when they play the get smacked.


Well... they dont play zerg.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
December 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#1253
On December 23 2012 02:34 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:32 ETisME wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Gamblers-Take-Note-The-Odds-in-a-Coin-Flip-Arent-Quite-50-50-181022961.html
looks like he is right.

TL - where you learn more than schools


TL is for learning; schools are for shooting...

*too soon?


Okay I laughed
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
December 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#1254
Upper class of good looking.

TLO crack me up
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#1255
Which foreign protoss or terran consistently do well against koreans? I can't think of any, including Naniwa (consistently).

It's not even a surprise to see random foreign zergs knock out top koreans in zvz/ zvp (rarely in zvt). Look at the difference between SortOf's zvz and zvt at NASL4 finals. I think zvz is just a bad matchup
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
SPQR13
Profile Joined June 2011
181 Posts
December 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#1256
On December 23 2012 02:33 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:30 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.


The gap is not closing. The best foreigners play at EGTL and they don't even get to play in Proleague and when they play the get smacked. Stephano is the only exception I think.


Some strong koreans but not even close to "the best foreigners"
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 22 2012 17:39 GMT
#1257
On December 23 2012 02:37 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:34 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:32 ETisME wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:30 ceaRshaf wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:29 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:24 ibraishome wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:23 ramon wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:21 Emuking wrote:
You know what else has a 50% winrate for both sides? A coinflip.


Isn't it 51% for one side? I think it is.

if you throw 101 times it is


Lol?!


what, statistically speaking; the coin has a 51% chance of landing on the side it was originally tossed on...initially. i.e. a coin starting on heads has a 51% chance to land on heads and vice-versa; however I don't want to start flying over people heads with the fundamental laws of mechanics.


hmm... no.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Gamblers-Take-Note-The-Odds-in-a-Coin-Flip-Arent-Quite-50-50-181022961.html
looks like he is right.

TL - where you learn more than schools


TL is for learning; schools are for shooting...

*too soon?


Okay I laughed


ಠ_ಠ How dare you laugh!
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
pivor
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland198 Posts
December 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#1258
How this stream can have 30k viewers when there are only ZvZs left? Feels like its cheated.
:F
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
December 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#1259
On December 23 2012 02:33 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:30 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:22 Lasbike wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
There was a time when 4 koreans entered a tournament there would be a 4 korean semis. But foreigners got themselves some skill since then. And a patch.

"A patch".

Symbol against TLO went to 3-2. And it's a ZvZ, foreigner vs korean. The gap between foreigners and koreans is not that huge.



And I also remember Stephano being dominated by MKP and MMA at IPL 4. Funny how times have changed.


The gap is not closing. The best foreigners play at EGTL and they don't even get to play in Proleague and when they play the get smacked. Stephano is the only exception I think.

It's been two weeks. ThorZaiN and HuK aren't exactly the best examples either. ThorZaiN is a PL players wet dream considering he's the most predictable player out there, and HuK has been bad since.... ever.
SPQR13
Profile Joined June 2011
181 Posts
December 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#1260
On December 23 2012 02:40 pivor wrote:
How this stream can have 30k viewers when there are only ZvZs left? Feels like its cheated.

Its the sharks
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