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freizya
Profile Joined October 2012
United States223 Posts
December 09 2012 18:00 GMT
#81
did hero play finals yet?
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
December 09 2012 18:04 GMT
#82
Hero and Violet are my two favorite players, I hope they both win somehow I'd bet on violet though considering his win in IPL5.
Try another route paperboy.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 09 2012 18:59 GMT
#83
On December 10 2012 01:52 eqinf wrote:
is nasl on break atm ? or its just me having troubles with the twitch stream ?


The stream doesn't start for another hour. You were a bit early.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#84
Thegunrun is saying that the mobile stream should be working now.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 09 2012 19:36 GMT
#85
Man, White Ra plays in everything.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
arvinds94
Profile Joined April 2012
United States40 Posts
December 09 2012 19:44 GMT
#86
violet gonna take it forsure. He has so much momentum currently one of the best zergs in the world.
viOlet
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 09 2012 19:44 GMT
#87
On December 10 2012 02:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 02:34 felisconcolori wrote:
On December 10 2012 02:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 10 2012 02:14 erby wrote:
I'm so confused by the people complaining about timezones. DH does NOT schedule their tournaments to be "world-friendly", which is ridiculous because there exists timezones. Both DH finals and GSL start times are usually around 4am my time (US EST). Whoever says that DH schedules around NA timezones is incorrect.

There is nothing a tournament can do about timezones, except do 1) rebroadcasts and 2) have VODs. I definitely agree that NASL could have done Day 1 rebroadcasts immediately after, but I can understand them not airing a rebroadcast since Day 1 was nearly 12 hours long and there wasn't enough time to replay the entire rebroadcast. And as for VODs, that's part of subscribing and I also can't fault them for having real subscriber bonuses.


Being able to watch the final should not be a subscriber bonus.


I suggest you mention this to Gom. I'm sure they would find it humorous. (Of course, I am awake at 4am, so I can watch pixelvision live.)


Gom at least has their finals on a saturday, always. It just sucks because I would stay up if I could. But I really can't watch a bo7 grand finals starting at 2am on a monday morning when I have to go to work 6 hours later. If you're gonna do that have it a) be a saturday or b) let there be free vods for the finals. That's just simple logic. Anything else is just a big fuck you to everybody in different timezones. Which sucks because I love watching NASL.


It's impossible to schedule in a timezone that lets everyone watch. Especially for a live event, as they are constrained by the hours of the venue. The finals being on a Saturday is important? Only if you are one of the relatively few people that get to work M-F only.

Of course, I'm capable of going to work, coming home, going to sleep immediately, and waking up more or less at the time something starts, and staying awake for the 15 or so hours that watching + work runs. YMMV, depending on your ability to adjust your sleep schedule around the tournaments. It's a matter of convenience, and if it's not convenient, that's not their specific problem. They are serving a different audience, and they are well worth the cost for HD/VODs given the amount of content for the price.

Sure, finals may be in daylight in the US for EU tournaments, but how many people get off of work early enough to catch them? (Okay, I do. But I work from before 8am CET to about 5pm CET. Which sounds nice, except I'm in CST. And my "Monday" is Sunday.)

Anyways, enough about all that. Violet gonna win.
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andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 19:52:48
December 09 2012 19:51 GMT
#88
Is a show match really a show match if there's a greater prize for the winner? When Boxer did BW showmatches with Yellow, I don't think there was any added prize for the winner. Entertaining the crowd was the greatest priority, even more so than winning, so Boxer went out of the way to build battlecruisers and nukes. Yellow built a queen and taunted Boxer by infesting his CCs. Of course, they also trash talked each other.

I'm just afraid that this HotS showmatch will have both players only playing to win in the most efficient manner possible. That to me just screams money match, not show match.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
December 09 2012 19:54 GMT
#89
On December 10 2012 04:51 andrea20 wrote:
Is a show match really a show match if there's a greater prize for the winner? When Boxer did BW showmatches with Yellow, I don't think there was any added prize for the winner. Entertaining the crowd was the greatest priority, even more so than winning, so Boxer went out of the way to build battlecruisers and nukes. Yellow built a queen and taunted Boxer by infesting his CCs. Of course, they also trash talked each other.

I'm just afraid that this HotS showmatch will have both players only playing to win in the most efficient manner possible. That to me just screams money match, not show match.


You do know white-ra is playing, right?
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Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 19:57:08
December 09 2012 19:55 GMT
#90
Who honestly wants to see a showmatch between 2 mediocre pros(no offense intended)? And a freaking FFA? Is this some kind of joke?

User was warned for this post
crack
LokiEU
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom6 Posts
December 09 2012 19:57 GMT
#91
On December 10 2012 04:55 Coolhwip wrote:
Who honestly wants to see a showmatch between 2 mediocre pros? And a freaking FFA? Is this some kind of joke?

Its called fun.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 09 2012 19:57 GMT
#92
Yeah fuck fun!
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
December 09 2012 19:57 GMT
#93
On December 10 2012 04:57 LokiEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 04:55 Coolhwip wrote:
Who honestly wants to see a showmatch between 2 mediocre pros? And a freaking FFA? Is this some kind of joke?

Its called fun.

I doubt many people think that is fun, but I might be wrong.
crack
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 09 2012 19:57 GMT
#94
WHY?? I so much wanted to see a final with Hero, my favorite pro, live! Why do you have to use time fillers?
Brb, gonna cry a little.
Get off my lawn, young punks
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
December 09 2012 19:57 GMT
#95
On December 10 2012 04:55 Coolhwip wrote:
Who honestly wants to see a showmatch between 2 mediocre pros(no offense intended)? And a freaking FFA? Is this some kind of joke?

Iuno man the IEM FFAs are pretty hilarious.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
December 09 2012 20:02 GMT
#96
Hard to bet against solid ZvP these days. HerO looked pretty dominant against Taeja and Polt but Violet should follow up his 2nd place at IPL with a win here.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 20:05:32
December 09 2012 20:03 GMT
#97
Hard to bet against solid ZvP these days. HerO looked pretty dominant against Taeja and Polt but Violet should follow up his 2nd place at IPL with a win here.


We'll see if ViOLet can keep his cuddly swarm together against HerO.
Genealogy
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 20:06:05
December 09 2012 20:04 GMT
#98
am I the only one that is here for the 3rd place match?! Let's go TvZ woohoo.

edit: wow, didn't realize there were HoTS action for 3 hours... GREAT event planning NASL, especially for the European viewers... sigh
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 09 2012 20:04 GMT
#99
On December 10 2012 04:55 Coolhwip wrote:
Who honestly wants to see a showmatch between 2 mediocre pros(no offense intended)? And a freaking FFA? Is this some kind of joke?


some people like seeing things other than hardcore top-level competition sometimes. if you don't, fair enough, iron squid is on right now and should probably go just about until the actual finals of NASL are starting, to go watch that i guess.

personally i'd rather watch a hots showmatch and a silly FFA than another WoL ZvP and a WoL TvZ between a good zerg player and a much better terran player who might just end up losing anyways.
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ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
December 09 2012 20:06 GMT
#100
didnt you guys get the memo? only code s caliber players are allowed to have streamed matches. that's the official definition of 'fun'.

+ Show Spoiler +
i'm being sarcastic
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
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