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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
December 08 2012 05:13 GMT
#3901
On December 08 2012 14:00 Vertical wrote:
seriously do you guys think jaedong stand a chance just because he had the killer look

lol

Well that plus he is the most talented player of all time.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 08 2012 05:13 GMT
#3902
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views

Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive.


All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG.



Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement.


SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy
Samsung- Jangbi/Roro
STX- Last/Trap/Bogus
Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS
KT- Flash/Stats/KH
CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero
Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year)

This is Proleague, not MLG.

How many times are people going to say "This is Proleague, not MLG." Really that makes no sense to say. Second, the question is for a 1-2 punch and you listed more than 2 players for every team except Samsung Khan, plus you listed a player not on the roster for Team 8 (lol). You also apparently didn't realize that a lot of those players you listed aren't as good as HerO/Taeja. GG
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sdecker32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
December 08 2012 05:13 GMT
#3903
This is probably the fan in me, but i would like to imagine that given a week to prepare/good training schedule Thorzain will be able to pick up his share of wins.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#3904
Kespa threads always turn to shit lol

I am blaming everyone

YES EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE IS AT FAULT
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#3905
On December 08 2012 14:14 lichter wrote:
Kespa threads always turn to shit lol

I am blaming everyone

YES EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE IS AT FAULT


I blame god for creating the universe which is at fault. Kespa hates god is what it is.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
December 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#3906
On December 08 2012 14:09 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:07 doffe wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:04 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:02 Wildmoon wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views

Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive.


All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG.



Are you trolling?

Nope.


then you are simply stupid. There is no way you can claim that all Kespa teams have the same or better top 2 players as HerO and Taeja in SC2. Pure talent, maybe but they in no way have the same experience. Its just naive to claim it and completly baseless. You go from feeling cause they have in no way proven what you say by achievements. Objectivly, they dont come close.


Everyone goes from feelings, the so called "objective" doesn't exist.



ok then, so I guess you cant make logical conclusions based on stats. Right. It is entirly possible for a peron never having seen starcraft 2 nor played it, not knowing anything about the players but theirs stats and recent achievements. Such a person would most definatly favour Taeja and HerO over the Kespa teams and could hardly be called subjective. Unless you want to really really really draw the term objective to its extreme yes, there is such a thing as objectivity.
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
December 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#3907
Sooo,, has Bisu gotten good yet`?
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
December 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#3908
On December 08 2012 14:13 sdecker32 wrote:
This is probably the fan in me, but i would like to imagine that given a week to prepare/good training schedule Thorzain will be able to pick up his share of wins.


I hear you man. I want it too,

You need to ask yourself this though:

Training against who?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#3909
On December 08 2012 14:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views

Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive.


All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG.



Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement.


SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy
Samsung- Jangbi/Roro
STX- Last/Trap/Bogus
Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS
KT- Flash/Stats/KH
CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero
Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year)

This is Proleague, not MLG.

How many times are people going to say "This is Proleague, not MLG." Really that makes no sense to say. Second, the question is for a 1-2 punch and you listed more than 2 players for every team except Samsung Khan, plus you listed a player not on the roster for Team 8 (lol). You also apparently didn't realize that a lot of those players you listed aren't as good as HerO/Taeja. GG

the same jaedong that failed so epically against a basic sentry immortal all in is going to turn around and crush Taeja or Hero because...KESPA MAGIC!
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#3910
On December 08 2012 14:12 derthy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:05 GreyKnight wrote:
Taeja will best team league player they will have imo. he has really strong all around play and can beat pretty much anyone.

hero is super good and so is stephano but don't expect them to carry as much as taeja. in fact i dont expect hero to beat many people despite being my captain


Uh, Taeja can win all his matches in proleague and the team can still get crushed. This isn't the all-kill format...yet, so you technically can't rely on one guy to carry the team. Everyone is throwing out the same excuse that they're missing their big top 3 players but in this format if everyone don't perform well, it won't mean anything.

Agree

The problem is even with Taeja, Hero, and Stephano, one of them will most likely have to defeat flash in the normal matches, then hope for a 3-3 tie and have to beat flash again. It's not as easy as it sounds.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#3911
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views

Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive.


All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG.



Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement.


SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy
Samsung- Jangbi/Roro
STX- Last/Trap/Bogus
Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS
KT- Flash/Stats/KH
CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero
Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year)

This is Proleague, not MLG.

SKT - Fantasy/Soo not as good as either hero or taeja.
Samsung - Jangbi has done nothing of note yet
STX - Only Bogus is notable
Woongjin - Only soulkey is any good, and in relative decadence since his debut in SC2
KT - Only flash so far, stats has been decent but nowhere near hero/taeja
CJ - Close, but still rather unproven
T8 - JD doesn't count, plus he's not as good as either hero or taeja, same for baby, worst team in PL

Stop looking with you BW tinted glasses, you just don't seem to know a lot about SC2 apparently. The actual truth is that this is pretty hard to evaluate right now, since most PL players have played a small sample of relevant matches (Against code S level players). All we know is that Hero and taeja are pretty damn good at SC2.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
December 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#3912
Wow absence of arguably the best three members of EGTL alliance hurts more than expected.
But I still believe EGTL will be much better with TaeJa HerO and Stephano playing.
Fight on.
r3fl3x
Profile Joined May 2011
Turkey6 Posts
December 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#3913
after Flash - Zenio match you think that it was one sided, then after all the matches you realize that the first match was the least one sided! sad day for foreigners indeed
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
December 08 2012 05:16 GMT
#3914
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views

Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive.


All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG.



Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement.


SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy
Samsung- Jangbi/Roro
STX- Last/Trap/Bogus
Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS
KT- Flash/Stats/KH
CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero
Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year)

This is Proleague, not MLG.

Hate to break it to you but the only players on that list that are as good as Taeja Hero (and possibly stephano) are Rain, Flash, Soulkey, and Bogus. However, Taeja Hero and Stephano have shown far more consistent demonstrations of their domination in comparison to those players.
QO Feasting
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10388 Posts
December 08 2012 05:16 GMT
#3915
On December 08 2012 14:08 Telcontar wrote:
I think EG-TL will learn the hard way that there's no substitute for amount of practice put in. They have to practice as much or even more than these well drilled Kespa teams & players if they don't want to get rolled over in this proleague.

This. A dash of reason in an otherwise shitted-up thread.

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karlmengsk
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 05:19:09
December 08 2012 05:17 GMT
#3916
I only caught the last two games, but it looks like Thorzain just got taken by suprise (and steamrolled) by muta-ling-baneling, and the immortal-sentry all-in is really strong at the top level, even if Jaedong didn't necessarily make any mistakes (from what I could tell)?
That puppy is killing e-sports
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27415 Posts
December 08 2012 05:17 GMT
#3917
On December 08 2012 14:12 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:
On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views

Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive.


All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG.



Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement.


SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy
Samsung- Jangbi/Roro
STX- Last/Trap/Bogus
Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS
KT- Flash/Stats/KH
CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero
Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year)

This is Proleague, not MLG.


You can in no way make an intelligant argument that those players are currently more skilled then TaejA and HerO, A few of them sure, but in no way 2 in EACH team. Thats just silly.

Potentially they could be, certainly but right now really? HerO was the frigging elephant slayer in WCS!

Anyway, yeah such sad negativity.

Even if they got embarassed, why is it bad to attempt this? It's a sick injection of enthusiasm for this area of the scene. For somebody like me who really missed the glory days of Proleague this is awesome, a chance to at least see a part of what I missed!

If the Kespa players are so much better, why would you not go out and test your mettle and find out? Why is setting up a Korean house in the case of EG, with a Korean manager something that won't benefit the foreign scene as a whole? Perhaps if EGTL start picking up some results and generating some goodwill other foreign teams might make a fist of it. Hell even the cooperation itself between Liquid and EG is something to be celebrated. I'm sure organisationally this took a good amount of work to put together and it's sad to see the efforts of such people just shit on.

It's pathetic really. Statements like Kespa players could perfect parts of the game 'In a week' that are just nonsense. Yeah they're good RTs players, we get it. The ones who have 20/20 vision only in hindsight are even worse.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 08 2012 05:17 GMT
#3918
"trash talking" seems unlikely
KTY
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#3919
Terribly, terrible disappointing result... but very good for my fantasy team! Mwehehe...
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#3920
On December 08 2012 14:17 karlmengsk wrote:
I only caught the last two games, but it looks like Thorzain just got taken by suprise (and steamrolled) by muta-ling-baneling, and immortal-sentry all-ins is really strong at the top level, even if Jaedong didn't necessarily make any mistakes (from what I could tell).

Particularly on Ohana of all maps, terrible choice to play a zerg on that map, wonwonwon was pretty much obvious
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