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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:00 Vertical wrote: seriously do you guys think jaedong stand a chance just because he had the killer look lol Well that plus he is the most talented player of all time. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote: SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy Samsung- Jangbi/Roro STX- Last/Trap/Bogus Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS KT- Flash/Stats/KH CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year) This is Proleague, not MLG. How many times are people going to say "This is Proleague, not MLG." Really that makes no sense to say. Second, the question is for a 1-2 punch and you listed more than 2 players for every team except Samsung Khan, plus you listed a player not on the roster for Team 8 (lol). You also apparently didn't realize that a lot of those players you listed aren't as good as HerO/Taeja. GG | ||
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sdecker32
United States38 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I am blaming everyone YES EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE IS AT FAULT | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:14 lichter wrote: Kespa threads always turn to shit lol I am blaming everyone YES EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE IS AT FAULT I blame god for creating the universe which is at fault. Kespa hates god is what it is. | ||
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doffe
Sweden636 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:09 ZerglingTwins wrote: Everyone goes from feelings, the so called "objective" doesn't exist. ok then, so I guess you cant make logical conclusions based on stats. Right. It is entirly possible for a peron never having seen starcraft 2 nor played it, not knowing anything about the players but theirs stats and recent achievements. Such a person would most definatly favour Taeja and HerO over the Kespa teams and could hardly be called subjective. Unless you want to really really really draw the term objective to its extreme yes, there is such a thing as objectivity. | ||
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Zinnwaldite
Norway1567 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8307 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:13 sdecker32 wrote: This is probably the fan in me, but i would like to imagine that given a week to prepare/good training schedule Thorzain will be able to pick up his share of wins. I hear you man. I want it too, You need to ask yourself this though: Training against who? | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:13 Darkhoarse wrote: How many times are people going to say "This is Proleague, not MLG." Really that makes no sense to say. Second, the question is for a 1-2 punch and you listed more than 2 players for every team except Samsung Khan, plus you listed a player not on the roster for Team 8 (lol). You also apparently didn't realize that a lot of those players you listed aren't as good as HerO/Taeja. GG the same jaedong that failed so epically against a basic sentry immortal all in is going to turn around and crush Taeja or Hero because...KESPA MAGIC! | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:12 derthy wrote: Uh, Taeja can win all his matches in proleague and the team can still get crushed. This isn't the all-kill format...yet, so you technically can't rely on one guy to carry the team. Everyone is throwing out the same excuse that they're missing their big top 3 players but in this format if everyone don't perform well, it won't mean anything. Agree The problem is even with Taeja, Hero, and Stephano, one of them will most likely have to defeat flash in the normal matches, then hope for a 3-3 tie and have to beat flash again. It's not as easy as it sounds. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote: SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy Samsung- Jangbi/Roro STX- Last/Trap/Bogus Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS KT- Flash/Stats/KH CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year) This is Proleague, not MLG. SKT - Fantasy/Soo not as good as either hero or taeja. Samsung - Jangbi has done nothing of note yet STX - Only Bogus is notable Woongjin - Only soulkey is any good, and in relative decadence since his debut in SC2 KT - Only flash so far, stats has been decent but nowhere near hero/taeja CJ - Close, but still rather unproven T8 - JD doesn't count, plus he's not as good as either hero or taeja, same for baby, worst team in PL Stop looking with you BW tinted glasses, you just don't seem to know a lot about SC2 apparently. The actual truth is that this is pretty hard to evaluate right now, since most PL players have played a small sample of relevant matches (Against code S level players). All we know is that Hero and taeja are pretty damn good at SC2. | ||
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
But I still believe EGTL will be much better with TaeJa HerO and Stephano playing. Fight on. | ||
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r3fl3x
Turkey6 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote: SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy Samsung- Jangbi/Roro STX- Last/Trap/Bogus Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS KT- Flash/Stats/KH CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year) This is Proleague, not MLG. Hate to break it to you but the only players on that list that are as good as Taeja Hero (and possibly stephano) are Rain, Flash, Soulkey, and Bogus. However, Taeja Hero and Stephano have shown far more consistent demonstrations of their domination in comparison to those players. | ||
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Jealous
10314 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:08 Telcontar wrote: I think EG-TL will learn the hard way that there's no substitute for amount of practice put in. They have to practice as much or even more than these well drilled Kespa teams & players if they don't want to get rolled over in this proleague. This. A dash of reason in an otherwise shitted-up thread. BTW GUYS: + Show Spoiler [Funny relevant pic] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gYkIi.jpg) | ||
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karlmengsk
Canada230 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26734 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:12 doffe wrote: You can in no way make an intelligant argument that those players are currently more skilled then TaejA and HerO, A few of them sure, but in no way 2 in EACH team. Thats just silly. Potentially they could be, certainly but right now really? HerO was the frigging elephant slayer in WCS! Anyway, yeah such sad negativity. Even if they got embarassed, why is it bad to attempt this? It's a sick injection of enthusiasm for this area of the scene. For somebody like me who really missed the glory days of Proleague this is awesome, a chance to at least see a part of what I missed! If the Kespa players are so much better, why would you not go out and test your mettle and find out? Why is setting up a Korean house in the case of EG, with a Korean manager something that won't benefit the foreign scene as a whole? Perhaps if EGTL start picking up some results and generating some goodwill other foreign teams might make a fist of it. Hell even the cooperation itself between Liquid and EG is something to be celebrated. I'm sure organisationally this took a good amount of work to put together and it's sad to see the efforts of such people just shit on. It's pathetic really. Statements like Kespa players could perfect parts of the game 'In a week' that are just nonsense. Yeah they're good RTs players, we get it. The ones who have 20/20 vision only in hindsight are even worse. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:17 karlmengsk wrote: I only caught the last two games, but it looks like Thorzain just got taken by suprise (and steamrolled) by muta-ling-baneling, and immortal-sentry all-ins is really strong at the top level, even if Jaedong didn't necessarily make any mistakes (from what I could tell). Particularly on Ohana of all maps, terrible choice to play a zerg on that map, wonwonwon was pretty much obvious | ||
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