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On December 08 2012 14:07 doffe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:04 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 14:02 Wildmoon wrote:On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG. Are you trolling? Nope. then you are simply stupid. There is no way you can claim that all Kespa teams have the same or better top 2 players as HerO and Taeja in SC2. Pure talent, maybe but they in no way have the same experience. Its just naive to claim it and completly baseless. You go from feeling cause they have in no way proven what you say by achievements. Objectivly, they dont come close.
Everyone goes from feelings, the so called "objective" doesn't exist.
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On December 08 2012 14:04 tomwizz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:02 neggro wrote:
Someone please summarize. How did EGTL lose that series? Game 1 : Flash just better than Zenio Game 2 : Blink stalker attack =gg Game 2 : Ling/Muta/Bane attack =gg Game 3 : sentry/immortal attack =gg
this is what is going on  Flash just better ...
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On December 08 2012 14:07 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:06 Dosey wrote:On December 08 2012 14:02 thesums wrote:On December 08 2012 14:01 Zozma wrote:
Let's relax a bit. It's only one match. One match, but it was 4-0 With the likes of Zenio and Thorzain playing and JaecantdefendimmortalpushDong in the 4 spot. For them to have a chance, JYP had to win his PvP and bank on Puma/Huk taking them to Ace Match. JYP botched his PvP and they lost miserably. -_- When did it become okay to talk shit about Jaedong. What has the worldTL come to.
He's had trouble with the immortal push since first going up against it months ago. It's not shit talking, it's fact.
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Elephants are pretty scary.
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On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG. Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement.
SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy
Samsung- Jangbi/Roro
STX- Last/Trap/Bogus
Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS
KT- Flash/Stats/KH
CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero
Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year)
This is Proleague, not MLG.
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On December 08 2012 14:08 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:On December 08 2012 14:02 thesums wrote:On December 08 2012 14:01 Zozma wrote:
Let's relax a bit. It's only one match. One match, but it was 4-0 They missed their best three players and they put a Zerg on Ohana. Even if they totally suck (could happen), T8 is probably still going to suck more except if Ryul2, Speed and Haruhi are the reincarnations of Mvp, MC and Nestea. THEY DIED WHAT
Their GSL champion side died and they got sent to Code A to live among mortal men to save us for our sins.
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On December 08 2012 14:08 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
One lost series and here comes the relentless negativity of Kespa fanboys making fun of EGTL and EGTL fanboys immediately abandoning hope. Relax everyone, it was the first match. Can i ask why do people always call fans "fanboys" in the starcraft scene?
Polarizing opinions much more exciting?
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I hope this match goes to ace, I want to see kespa maps
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On December 08 2012 14:08 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
One lost series and here comes the relentless negativity of Kespa fanboys making fun of EGTL and EGTL fanboys immediately abandoning hope. Relax everyone, it was the first match. Can i ask why do people always call fans "fanboys" in the starcraft scene?
I guess you're right I could have gotten the same message across by saying "fans" instead of "fanboys". Still stand by the original post.
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On December 08 2012 14:03 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:00 yoshi245 wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views It's a bit early to tell. Zenio's not all that great of a zerg imo. He hasn't put up good results in a long time (his performance at IEM was nice, but could be better). JYP basically is more of a PvZ'er, his PvP was coinflipped and Wooki took advantage of having the 3rd gate earlier. That aggression paid off. Thorzain, idk. His history with Action is now 0-3. Although he's probably not faring all that well with jetlag, and being in Korea in less than a week. I think over time he will do better in proleague, but idk if he'd be a staple for the team as a regular. Jaedong couldn't handle that immortal sentry all-in too well. He had the knowledge, but the FF's and bad engagement areas made it really horrid for him. I think if he really practices on defending those, he'll be set for ZvP. It's only the first game of the season, time will tell how the Unholy Alliance will truly fare, especially since their 3 strongest players aren't there. Even so, I didn't expect a shut out of 4-0. I was expecting JYP to possibly get a win and Jaedong. Huk may have lost, and Puma who I haven't seen in awhile I'd feel be 50-50. I hope TLO somehow gets into proleague and does some crazy nydus play though. the fact that taeja hero stephano is an international tournament material shouldn't make you hope they'd show up regularly this is basically the most common line up we'll gonna see
I am aware of them not being there today is due to NASL. Basically the lineup EG-TL has today is the best they got on short notice more or less. Even with international tourneys that may pop up throughout this season of Proleague, I figure most of the time they will probably have at least 1 or 2 in Korea of the 3 aforementioned players to play, unless it was a huge tourney with a big prize pool. That's the sad truth and rather nice luxury KESPA players can enjoy, they don't need to focus on International events to for their monetary earnings. They're a bit better off than non KESPA players (although a few exceptions may exist like some players in EG). KESPA players have more time to focus on less things and don't have to bother with travel and jet lag, as well as missing out on events.
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On December 08 2012 14:04 ZerglingTwins wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:02 Wildmoon wrote:On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG. Are you trolling? Nope.
Then youre just a blind fanboy kid
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On December 08 2012 14:08 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
One lost series and here comes the relentless negativity of Kespa fanboys making fun of EGTL and EGTL fanboys immediately abandoning hope. Relax everyone, it was the first match. And they got completely embarrassed, highlighting a lack of depth on the team, IMO.
You don't need that much depth! You just need 3 good players that can win every week, with 3 wild card players who might randomly win. I'd say JD, Sea and Puma are the wild-cards, Taeja, Stephano, HerO are your depth. The rest are your practice partners.
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GSTL starting
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On December 08 2012 14:10 mordk wrote:
I hope this match goes to ace, I want to see kespa maps
Yeah I really wanna see that sky terran on arkanoid :D
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On December 08 2012 14:09 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:02 sdecker32 wrote:On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG. Unless you know somethigng that no-one else does, this is a fairly ignorant statement. SKT- Rain/Soo/Fantasy Samsung- Jangbi/Roro STX- Last/Trap/Bogus Woonjin- Flying/Soulkey/SOS KT- Flash/Stats/KH CJ- Effort/Bbyong/Skyhigh/Hero Team 8- Baby/Jaedong (still technically part of team 8, just loaned to EG for a year) This is Proleague, not MLG.
You can in no way make an intelligant argument that those players are currently more skilled then TaejA and HerO, A few of them sure, but in no way 2 in EACH team. Thats just silly.
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I think the problem is less so that EG-TL didn't have their ace players (I woulda enjoyed seeing Sea play, though), but the Proleague lends itself to map snipers. Even as rounded and good as HerO, Stephano, and Taeja are, they may be easily sniped in a BO1 by someone who's practiced a single strategy on a single map over and over.
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On December 08 2012 14:11 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:04 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 14:02 Wildmoon wrote:On December 08 2012 14:00 ZerglingTwins wrote:On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. All KeSPA teams have same or better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja. This is proleague, not MLG. Are you trolling? Nope. Then youre just a blind fanboy kid
Yes I am, and you are too.
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On December 08 2012 14:05 GreyKnight wrote:
Taeja will best team league player they will have imo. he has really strong all around play and can beat pretty much anyone.
hero is super good and so is stephano but don't expect them to carry as much as taeja. in fact i dont expect hero to beat many people despite being my captain
Uh, Taeja can win all his matches in proleague and the team can still get crushed. This isn't the all-kill format...yet, so you technically can't rely on one guy to carry the team. Everyone is throwing out the same excuse that they're missing their big top 3 players but in this format if everyone don't perform well, it won't mean anything.
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On December 08 2012 14:08 HotGlueGun wrote:
Is KT really one of the weakest KeSPA teams? If the other KeSPA teams are much better than them I don't think EG-TL has much of a chance even with Taeja and Hero. I don't know if they are good or if EG-TL are bad...
The real terror is gonna be CJ, that team is really really good.
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On December 08 2012 14:11 yoshi245 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:03 Vertical wrote:On December 08 2012 14:00 yoshi245 wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views It's a bit early to tell. Zenio's not all that great of a zerg imo. He hasn't put up good results in a long time (his performance at IEM was nice, but could be better). JYP basically is more of a PvZ'er, his PvP was coinflipped and Wooki took advantage of having the 3rd gate earlier. That aggression paid off. Thorzain, idk. His history with Action is now 0-3. Although he's probably not faring all that well with jetlag, and being in Korea in less than a week. I think over time he will do better in proleague, but idk if he'd be a staple for the team as a regular. Jaedong couldn't handle that immortal sentry all-in too well. He had the knowledge, but the FF's and bad engagement areas made it really horrid for him. I think if he really practices on defending those, he'll be set for ZvP. It's only the first game of the season, time will tell how the Unholy Alliance will truly fare, especially since their 3 strongest players aren't there. Even so, I didn't expect a shut out of 4-0. I was expecting JYP to possibly get a win and Jaedong. Huk may have lost, and Puma who I haven't seen in awhile I'd feel be 50-50. I hope TLO somehow gets into proleague and does some crazy nydus play though. the fact that taeja hero stephano is an international tournament material shouldn't make you hope they'd show up regularly this is basically the most common line up we'll gonna see I am aware of them not being there today is due to NASL. Basically the lineup EG-TL has today is the best they got on short notice more or less. Even with international tourneys that may pop up throughout this season of Proleague, I figure most of the time they will probably have at least 1 or 2 in Korea of the 3 aforementioned players to play, unless it was a huge tourney with a big prize pool. That's the sad truth and rather nice luxury KESPA players can enjoy, they don't need to focus on International events to for their monetary earnings. They're a bit better off than non KESPA players (although a few exceptions may exist like some players in EG). KESPA players have more time to focus on less things and don't have to bother with travel and jet lag, as well as missing out on events.
They don't get monetary earnings except the top dogs. They get to barely scrape by. Their contract requires them to live like laborers for the glory of the sponsors.
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