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On December 08 2012 14:06 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:02 thesums wrote:On December 08 2012 14:01 Zozma wrote:
Let's relax a bit. It's only one match. One match, but it was 4-0 With the likes of Zenio and Thorzain playing and JaecantdefendimmortalpushDong in the 4 spot. For them to have a chance, JYP had to win his PvP and bank on Puma/Huk taking them to Ace Match. JYP botched his PvP and they lost miserably.
-_-
When did it become okay to talk shit about Jaedong.
What has the worldTL come to.
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On December 08 2012 14:04 Monsen wrote:That's the beauty of zvp- you never can tell what makes games less interesting: force fields or fungals. This used to be my favorite mu in bw 
yeah. blizz needs to fix this one really fast.
early game ff dominates
lategame fungals pwn
there is no interesting give or take dynamics that players can do, its all aout the timing
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On December 08 2012 13:56 TimENT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 05:33 TimENT wrote:
Flash >>> Zenio
Wooki >> JYP
Action > Thorzain
Stats > Jaedong
Flash is going to absolutely wreck Zenio.
Wooki is going to easily beat JYP, cause JYP is terrible.
Action is going to beat Thorzain with some crazy fast paced Zerg play.
Stats is going to wonwonwon Jaedong and EG-TL + Jaedong fans will cry.
Basically, KT is going to dominate.
Lol pretty close :D
Thats some spot on predictions. Cudos.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
All that hype for nothing
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On December 08 2012 14:04 GarethGore wrote:
what a joke, for all the OMG EG/LIQUID WILL WIN! thats a sad showing that a number of long time top sc2 players in thorzain etc were just embarassed by a group of kespa players who much recently made the change from BW
sc2 skill ceilling isnt so high man, i mean with the mechanics they have and the mechanics this game requires its like that immortal build stats did, he can perfect that shit in a week, they are already all caught up any kespa guy right now can beat MVP, Stephano etc. the game is so volatile where like smallest engagnement mistakes and ur dead, no chance to come back, stupid if u ask me but thats what the people want
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Give Jaedong a little more time, by the time HOTS is released JD will be a beast, I think HOTS is more like BW so, a lot of the ex BW pros will just dominate even more in HOTS than they did in WoL IMO.
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On December 08 2012 14:00 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 13:59 Necosarius wrote:On December 08 2012 13:57 Malinor wrote:This season is 42 games long, maybe you guys just wait a couple more games to tell us how this season is gonna turn out. HerO Taeja and Stephano should be kind of important for that team  Sup you beast! Always happy to see fellow TLHF-members still watching SC2
Got to get some dose of Flash and Thorzain!
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On December 08 2012 14:01 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 13:58 munchmunch wrote:On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. Well, SKT already has Rain. If Taeja keeps slumping, and Fantasy really brings it, SKT should be way ahead of EG-TL. Nobody has the luxury of having two proven top, top SC2 players yet. They do on the other hand have a hell of a lot of good players who could be monsters that we haven't seen much of yet. Yeah, but that also kind of applies to EG-TL. Hero and Taeja have been heroes in foreign tournaments for a while, but they've never quite had the critical success, say in the GSL, that would prove that they are among the very best.
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On December 08 2012 14:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
One lost series and here comes the relentless negativity of Kespa fanboys making fun of EGTL and EGTL fanboys immediately abandoning hope. Relax everyone, it was the first match.
Can i ask why do people always call fans "fanboys" in the starcraft scene?
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On December 08 2012 14:04 GarethGore wrote:
what a joke, for all the OMG EG/LIQUID WILL WIN! thats a sad showing that a number of long time top sc2 players in thorzain etc were just embarassed by a group of kespa players who much recently made the change from BW
if you aren't going to consider the circumstances surrounding these matches(jet lagged Thorzain, middle-lower tier gsl players, bo1 format, potentially shifting housing accomadations/training schedules, not havign their 3 best players) then it's best to not comment. Not making any excuses, EG-TL got rocked. but don't make it out to be more than it is.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
At least this match ended conveniently for GSTL woot
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On December 08 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:02 thesums wrote:On December 08 2012 14:01 Zozma wrote:
Let's relax a bit. It's only one match. One match, but it was 4-0 They missed their best three players and they put a Zerg on Ohana. Even if they totally suck (could happen), T8 is probably still going to suck more except if Ryul2, Speed and Haruhi are the reincarnations of Mvp, MC and Nestea.
THEY DIED WHAT
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On December 08 2012 13:58 Gorilla23 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 13:56 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views Name a Kespa team with a better 1-2 punch than HerO and Taeja if they bring their A-game? Hardly dumb or naive. Well, luckily, only two rounds of proleague will be all-kill format.
In the other formats they would only need one more win to get an ace match. Considering they still have sea and Jaedong (who should be improving quickly like most kespa players) Zenio JYP and puma (who despite todays performance are still very solid players) I think they will be ok. If you just compare their team to pretty much any team they have the most talent by a large margin.
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On December 08 2012 14:04 Monsen wrote:That's the beauty of zvp- you never can tell what makes games less interesting: force fields or fungals. This used to be my favorite mu in bw
Watching Hydras being stormed and Zerg stuff exploding due to scarabs was so lovely
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
I think EG-TL will learn the hard way that there's no substitute for amount of practice put in. They have to practice as much or even more than these well drilled Kespa teams & players if they don't want to get rolled over in this proleague.
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On December 08 2012 14:05 GreyKnight wrote:
Taeja will best team league player they will have imo. he has really strong all around play and can beat pretty much anyone.
hero is super good and so is stephano but don't expect them to carry as much as taeja. in fact i dont expect hero to beat many people despite being my captain
Then why is he your captain...
On December 08 2012 14:08 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:04 Monsen wrote:That's the beauty of zvp- you never can tell what makes games less interesting: force fields or fungals. This used to be my favorite mu in bw Watching Hydras being stormed and Zerg stuff exploding due to scarabs was so lovely
Latency storm dodging FML
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Is KT really one of the weakest KeSPA teams? If the other KeSPA teams are much better than them I don't think EG-TL has much of a chance even with Taeja and Hero. I don't know if they are good or if EG-TL are bad...
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On December 08 2012 14:02 ref4 wrote:
you guys really thought EGTL had a chance vs. KT? get real kiddies not gonna happen in a trillion years.
Yeah. You have no idea what you're talking about.
First, three of their players played a match-up where they aren't that great (Zenio's vT is his worst iirc, same for Thorzain's vZ, and dunno about JYP's vP), and they didn't have their three (four ?) best players.
Stephano didn't play, HerO didn't play, Taeja didn't play, Sea didn't play, and Puma couldn't play. They are all way better than this. Jaedong is good, but this is a really bad map for a zerg. With their best composition, i didn't expected KT Rolster to win, at all. Since it's bo1, they could have been lucky, but they had way more potential.
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On December 08 2012 14:04 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 14:03 Vertical wrote:On December 08 2012 14:00 yoshi245 wrote:On December 08 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Rofl the people thinking this team can dominate better repent their dumb naive views It's a bit early to tell. Zenio's not all that great of a zerg imo. He hasn't put up good results in a long time (his performance at IEM was nice, but could be better). JYP basically is more of a PvZ'er, his PvP was coinflipped and Wooki took advantage of having the 3rd gate earlier. That aggression paid off. Thorzain, idk. His history with Action is now 0-3. Although he's probably not faring all that well with jetlag, and being in Korea in less than a week. I think over time he will do better in proleague, but idk if he'd be a staple for the team as a regular. Jaedong couldn't handle that immortal sentry all-in too well. He had the knowledge, but the FF's and bad engagement areas made it really horrid for him. I think if he really practices on defending those, he'll be set for ZvP. It's only the first game of the season, time will tell how the Unholy Alliance will truly fare, especially since their 3 strongest players aren't there. Even so, I didn't expect a shut out of 4-0. I was expecting JYP to possibly get a win and Jaedong. Huk may have lost, and Puma who I haven't seen in awhile I'd feel be 50-50. I hope TLO somehow gets into proleague and does some crazy nydus play though. the fact that taeja hero stephano is an international tournament material shouldn't make you hope they'd show up regularly this is basically the most common line up we'll gonna see lol what? its the nasl 4 finals. they're not gonna not go to the finals of a tournament they qualified for.
what i mean is they would go to a lot of international tournament just like the nasl
therefore they wouldn't be able to attend proleague regularly
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On December 08 2012 14:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
One lost series and here comes the relentless negativity of Kespa fanboys making fun of EGTL and EGTL fanboys immediately abandoning hope. Relax everyone, it was the first match.
And they got completely embarrassed, highlighting a lack of depth on the team, IMO.
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