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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
November 22 2012 02:30 GMT
#61
On November 22 2012 11:27 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:23 Blargh wrote:
Wait, so, Vibe, Dark, and MMA all have +5 spread, but MMA and Vibe have to go through each other?? That seems like it's punishing the players who did better and just so happened to get the same spread. Shouldn't the people with lower spreads (+1) get booted instead of the tie-breakers between the two better players? And why doesn't Dark have to do a tie-breaker? Is it just completely random? This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. Someone care to explain?


This is just for seeding, nobody is booted out.


Does that mean that even if Vibe loses to MMA, he will still be able in the wildcard bracket...?
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 22 2012 02:33 GMT
#62
On November 22 2012 11:30 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:27 Dexington wrote:
On November 22 2012 11:23 Blargh wrote:
Wait, so, Vibe, Dark, and MMA all have +5 spread, but MMA and Vibe have to go through each other?? That seems like it's punishing the players who did better and just so happened to get the same spread. Shouldn't the people with lower spreads (+1) get booted instead of the tie-breakers between the two better players? And why doesn't Dark have to do a tie-breaker? Is it just completely random? This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. Someone care to explain?


This is just for seeding, nobody is booted out.


Does that mean that even if Vibe loses to MMA, he will still be able in the wildcard bracket...?


Yeah, just a tie break for placement.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
November 22 2012 02:37 GMT
#63
On November 22 2012 11:33 BathTubNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:30 Blargh wrote:
On November 22 2012 11:27 Dexington wrote:
On November 22 2012 11:23 Blargh wrote:
Wait, so, Vibe, Dark, and MMA all have +5 spread, but MMA and Vibe have to go through each other?? That seems like it's punishing the players who did better and just so happened to get the same spread. Shouldn't the people with lower spreads (+1) get booted instead of the tie-breakers between the two better players? And why doesn't Dark have to do a tie-breaker? Is it just completely random? This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. Someone care to explain?


This is just for seeding, nobody is booted out.


Does that mean that even if Vibe loses to MMA, he will still be able in the wildcard bracket...?


Yeah, just a tie break for placement.

Oh, I see now. I saw Arthur/Oz once and assumed that each of the tie-breakers being played mean the loser is out of the bracket. Thank you for clarification.
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
November 22 2012 02:38 GMT
#64
On November 22 2012 11:30 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:27 Dexington wrote:
On November 22 2012 11:23 Blargh wrote:
Wait, so, Vibe, Dark, and MMA all have +5 spread, but MMA and Vibe have to go through each other?? That seems like it's punishing the players who did better and just so happened to get the same spread. Shouldn't the people with lower spreads (+1) get booted instead of the tie-breakers between the two better players? And why doesn't Dark have to do a tie-breaker? Is it just completely random? This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. Someone care to explain?


This is just for seeding, nobody is booted out.


Does that mean that even if Vibe loses to MMA, he will still be able in the wildcard bracket...?



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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 02:54:49
November 22 2012 02:49 GMT
#65
Are the winners of the wildcard matches ordered again based on their wildcard seed before going in to the finals?

Like, say Naniwa beats Oz. Would he go to face Polt, as the #16 seed, or would he go to play Arthur, like that graphic seems to suggest. If the latter, it seems unfair to me that Polt would face anyone other than the lowest seeded wildcard player to advance.

Edit: The way Gretorp is talking makes it seem like the matches are set based on the graphic. This disappoints me a lot and makes no sense.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11082 Posts
November 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#66
These between match bits are pretty funny.

God hope Nani can make it.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
November 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#67
Oz loss another PvP
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
November 22 2012 02:59 GMT
#68
On November 22 2012 11:49 Dexington wrote:
Are the winners of the wildcard matches ordered again based on their wildcard seed before going in to the finals?

Like, say Naniwa beats Oz. Would he go to face Polt, as the #16 seed, or would he go to play Arthur, like that graphic seems to suggest. If the latter, it seems unfair to me that Polt would face anyone other than the lowest seeded wildcard player to advance.

Edit: The way Gretorp is talking makes it seem like the matches are set based on the graphic. This disappoints me a lot and makes no sense.

That's how brackets always work. If the number 1 seed gives a walkover in the first round then the next opponent gets a really lucky matchup. It's like that in every sport that I've seen, except for rare exceptions where they reorganize by seed. That doesn't happen very often though.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 22 2012 03:03 GMT
#69
On November 22 2012 11:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:49 Dexington wrote:
Are the winners of the wildcard matches ordered again based on their wildcard seed before going in to the finals?

Like, say Naniwa beats Oz. Would he go to face Polt, as the #16 seed, or would he go to play Arthur, like that graphic seems to suggest. If the latter, it seems unfair to me that Polt would face anyone other than the lowest seeded wildcard player to advance.

Edit: The way Gretorp is talking makes it seem like the matches are set based on the graphic. This disappoints me a lot and makes no sense.

That's how brackets always work. If the number 1 seed gives a walkover in the first round then the next opponent gets a really lucky matchup. It's like that in every sport that I've seen, except for rare exceptions where they reorganize by seed. That doesn't happen very often though.


No sport has wildcards to determine every single player/team's opponent.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
November 22 2012 03:03 GMT
#70
On November 22 2012 11:49 Dexington wrote:
Are the winners of the wildcard matches ordered again based on their wildcard seed before going in to the finals?

Like, say Naniwa beats Oz. Would he go to face Polt, as the #16 seed, or would he go to play Arthur, like that graphic seems to suggest. If the latter, it seems unfair to me that Polt would face anyone other than the lowest seeded wildcard player to advance.

Edit: The way Gretorp is talking makes it seem like the matches are set based on the graphic. This disappoints me a lot and makes no sense.


The winners of the wildcards are re-ranked based off of their seed in the wildcards and then inserted into the playoffs based on that ranking(ranked 1-8). Polt faces whoever is the lowest ranked wildcard seed coming out of the wildcards no matter what, does that help?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 22 2012 03:04 GMT
#71
On November 22 2012 12:03 NASL.tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:49 Dexington wrote:
Are the winners of the wildcard matches ordered again based on their wildcard seed before going in to the finals?

Like, say Naniwa beats Oz. Would he go to face Polt, as the #16 seed, or would he go to play Arthur, like that graphic seems to suggest. If the latter, it seems unfair to me that Polt would face anyone other than the lowest seeded wildcard player to advance.

Edit: The way Gretorp is talking makes it seem like the matches are set based on the graphic. This disappoints me a lot and makes no sense.


The winners of the wildcards are re-ranked based off of their seed in the wildcards and then inserted into the playoffs based on that ranking(ranked 1-8). Polt faces whoever is the lowest ranked wildcard seed coming out of the wildcards no matter what, does that help?


Perfect, thank you. Gretorp is wrong then.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 22 2012 03:14 GMT
#72
Naniwa has a good shot here, when was the last time Oz won a PvP?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
November 22 2012 03:20 GMT
#73
I guess Oz isn't as cursed as he was in PvP.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 22 2012 03:31 GMT
#74
On November 22 2012 12:14 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa has a good shot here, when was the last time Oz won a PvP?


Few weeks ago when he 4-0'ed Naniwa at the MvP tournament? :p
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
November 22 2012 03:34 GMT
#75
Really nice Naniwa, tho a bit lucky with Oz's build.
biamila
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada335 Posts
November 22 2012 03:50 GMT
#76
Naniwa is hero mode :D
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
November 22 2012 03:51 GMT
#77
Ehh, I prefer a NaNiwa vs Polt series anyways, come on NaNi!
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 22 2012 03:57 GMT
#78
On November 22 2012 12:51 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Ehh, I prefer a NaNiwa vs Polt series anyways, come on NaNi!


I'd take Nani/Polt over Arthur/Oz any day.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
November 22 2012 04:00 GMT
#79
are they playing cross server the micro has been really poor so far
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
November 22 2012 04:06 GMT
#80
So if I recall correctly, winner of Oz vs NaNiwa faces Polt in Ro16?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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