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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 20:22 GMT
#381
so long as creator gets out of his group, he should have a fairly easy semifinal run at least
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#382
On November 17 2012 05:22 opterown wrote:
so long as creator gets out of his group, he should have a fairly easy semifinal run at least

Hopefully. I'd like to see him make top 2 at least. It'll be hard to beat Rain
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 16 2012 20:34 GMT
#383
Curious and PartinG fighting!
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:36:01
November 16 2012 20:35 GMT
#384
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

edit: sorry for multipost.... I'mbad.
The Bomber boy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 20:35 GMT
#385
On November 17 2012 05:35 Wintex wrote:
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

11, but may well run overtime
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 16 2012 20:36 GMT
#386
On November 17 2012 05:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:35 Wintex wrote:
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

11, but may well run overtime


Thank you! I'll be here from 10 AM. Good luck Opterown (Yes, I'm expecting you to be here 24/7 :D)
The Bomber boy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 20:37 GMT
#387
On November 17 2012 05:36 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:35 opterown wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:35 Wintex wrote:
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

11, but may well run overtime


Thank you! I'll be here from 10 AM. Good luck Opterown (Yes, I'm expecting you to be here 24/7 :D)

haha, the times here for me (AEDT) is from 1pm to 12 midnight, ezpz ;p
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 16 2012 20:39 GMT
#388
On November 17 2012 05:37 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:36 Wintex wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:35 opterown wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:35 Wintex wrote:
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

11, but may well run overtime


Thank you! I'll be here from 10 AM. Good luck Opterown (Yes, I'm expecting you to be here 24/7 :D)

haha, the times here for me (AEDT) is from 1pm to 12 midnight, ezpz ;p


haha, well. 3AM to 2PM is less than optimal for my part. wtb australia.
The Bomber boy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 20:39 GMT
#389
On November 17 2012 05:39 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:37 opterown wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:36 Wintex wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:35 opterown wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:35 Wintex wrote:
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

11, but may well run overtime


Thank you! I'll be here from 10 AM. Good luck Opterown (Yes, I'm expecting you to be here 24/7 :D)

haha, the times here for me (AEDT) is from 1pm to 12 midnight, ezpz ;p


haha, well. 3AM to 2PM is less than optimal for my part. wtb australia.

that sounds like the average times for MLG/DH for me, the only good things aussies can have is WCS asia/global and GSL lol
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 16 2012 20:50 GMT
#390
go luci terran hope fighting
yo
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 16 2012 20:51 GMT
#391
Holy shit that prize pool! 100k USD for winner and 40k USD for second and 16k USD for third that is pretty fucking insane.

I think pretty much everyone who is able to take part in this tournament will certainly try to play their asses off to be able to place high, no matter who they are. I love this kind of tournament where the stakes are really high- This is a big chance for the "nonames" such as Vibe to make it big. And overall, judging from the players who are in the bracket it should be a pretty great tournament. My favourites are Stephano and Nerchio although I'm a bit sad that Naniwa isn't taking part.

No matter what, the winner of this tournament will be remembered.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 21:02:19
November 16 2012 21:00 GMT
#392
On November 14 2012 14:18 opterown wrote:
Poll: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

Stephano (528)
 
24%

Rain (515)
 
23%

IdrA (256)
 
11%

Creator (156)
 
7%

Other (150)
 
7%

Scarlett (138)
 
6%

Nerchio (117)
 
5%

HerO (96)
 
4%

A Terran (77)
 
3%

Grubby (76)
 
3%

PartinG (63)
 
3%

Sen (62)
 
3%

2234 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Scarlett
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): A Terran
(Vote): Other


gonna printscreen this just before the games start and check progress :p

oh, and nerchio overtook creator for the first time too i think
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 21:05:41
November 16 2012 21:04 GMT
#393
Group A:
Parting1st, Illusion 2nd

Parting > Socke
Illusion > Fenix
Parting > Illusion
Socke > Fenix
Illusion > Socke

Group B: Suppy 1st
Vibe 2nd. (If it wasn't for both of them having amazing ZvZ I wouldn't bet on them, but you gotta pick some upsets sometimes.)

Group C: Sen 1st, Grubby 2nd. (HuK might be able to beat Grubby due to him being a PvP champ, but I feel like going for the safer bet here).

Group D: Rain 1st, Babyknight (very straightforward actually)

Group E: Stephano 1st, Hero 2nd (I want to believe Hero!)

Group F: Curious 1st, CJ_Hero 2nd (again, pretty cut and dry. Maybe Major can beat the odds though).

Group G: Lucifron and... fuck it, state I suppose

Group H: Scarlett 1st, Nerchio 2nd. Creator gets upset. Acer is awesome.

This would set up the bracket as follows:

Parting

Nerchio (Parting's PvZ is BAAAAD lately)

Nerchio
Nerchio
Suppy

Suppy

State
Rain
Sen

CJHero

CJHero
Rain
Rain

Rain

LiquidHero

Stephano

Stephano

State
Stephano
Curious

Curious

Grubby
Stephano
Lucifron

Lucifron

Vibe
Scarlett
Scarlett

Scarlett

Ilussion


And then Rain 4:3 Stephano in the Finals, Scarlett 4 : 2 Nerchio in the semifinals.

Edit: Shit, the spacing didn't work out there at all.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 21:27:44
November 16 2012 21:17 GMT
#394
On November 17 2012 04:39 VanSCPurge wrote:
Show nested quote +
and you're overrating Idra's ZvZ


Not really. His ZvZ IS good, you can't really deny that. Stephano's ZvZ is kinda average. I expect IdrA to get beat handily by RorO, but his matches against HerO and Stephano should be interesting. (If only because HerO has been struggling lately vs Zerg and Stephano's ZvZ is lackluster)

+ Show Spoiler +
Also, this:
when you look at the top SC2 players, the thing that makes them distinct is rarely their macro


Rarely, for sure. But some players are known for their macro, however few they may be. IdrA is one of them. He consistently shows up to fights with a handful more units than his opponents, or a slightly bigger bank because he maxed a little sooner, etc. His decision making and his unit control is not on the same level as someone like Stephano, but his mechanics and his macro are a little better.

Second, Stephano spends a lot of his APM on army control, which is why you see him missing an inject / creep spread from time to time. This isn't because he's incapable of creep spreading / injecting; it's because he chooses to prioritize army control over those things, which is why he gets great engagements.


This, I agree with this 100%. I just feel like IdrA, instead of prioritizing army control, prioritizes injects, creep spread, and general macro. It's a different style of Zerg. Unit Control Stephano > IdrA. But macro IdrA > Stephano. It will be a great series for sure.


I'm not actually denying that I think he has a really good chance of being eliminated right away, I just don't agree with what those other people were saying about him getting swept without taking a single map. The only 2-0 he was dealt at the last MLG was at the hands of Soulkey, who just made Code S Ro8 by beating Life 4-0.


You have it all mixed up. Stephano's ZvZ is good, Idras is average. The only zergs he loses too are top Koreans. He regularly beats the 'second best' foreign zerg (Nerchio).

Who has Idra beaten recently in ZvZ that makes you say it's better than Stephanos? Stephano has a better winning percentage vs better competition.

Here's a look at some common opponents:

stephano vs vibe 2-0
idra vs vibe 1-2

stephano vs nerchio 9-5
idra vs nerchio 0-4

stephano vs zenio 2-2
idra vs zenio 0-4

And Im the biased one xD
Idra is gonna get embarrassed by Stephano when they play.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 16 2012 21:19 GMT
#395
On November 17 2012 05:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:35 Wintex wrote:
How long does day 1 last? 12 hours?

11, but may well run overtime

With all the PvZ with foreign zergs I expect it to run well over the time.
Glorious SEA doto
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 21:20:27
November 16 2012 21:20 GMT
#396
On November 17 2012 06:04 TheDougler wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Group A:
Parting1st, Illusion 2nd

Parting > Socke
Illusion > Fenix
Parting > Illusion
Socke > Fenix
Illusion > Socke

Group B: Suppy 1st
Vibe 2nd. (If it wasn't for both of them having amazing ZvZ I wouldn't bet on them, but you gotta pick some upsets sometimes.)

Group C: Sen 1st, Grubby 2nd. (HuK might be able to beat Grubby due to him being a PvP champ, but I feel like going for the safer bet here).

Group D: Rain 1st, Babyknight (very straightforward actually)

Group E: Stephano 1st, Hero 2nd (I want to believe Hero!)

Group F: Curious 1st, CJ_Hero 2nd (again, pretty cut and dry. Maybe Major can beat the odds though).

Group G: Lucifron and... fuck it, state I suppose

Group H: Scarlett 1st, Nerchio 2nd. Creator gets upset. Acer is awesome.

This would set up the bracket as follows:

Parting

Nerchio (Parting's PvZ is BAAAAD lately)

Nerchio
Nerchio
Suppy

Suppy

State
Rain
Sen

CJHero

CJHero
Rain
Rain

Rain

LiquidHero

Stephano

Stephano

State
Stephano
Curious

Curious

Grubby
Stephano
Lucifron

Lucifron

Vibe
Scarlett
Scarlett

Scarlett

Ilussion


And then Rain 4:3 Stephano in the Finals, Scarlett 4 : 2 Nerchio in the semifinals.

Edit: Shit, the spacing didn't work out there at all.

+ Show Spoiler +
Parting
                           Nerchio (Parting's PvZ is BAAAAD lately)

Nerchio
                                                      Nerchio

Suppy
                           Suppy

State
                                                                            Rain
Sen

                          CJHero

CJHero
                                                        Rain
Rain
                            Rain

LiquidHero

Stephano
                        Stephano

State
                                                    Stephano
Curious

                         Curious

Grubby
                                                                      Stephano
Lucifron

                         Lucifron

Vibe
                                                    Scarlett
Scarlett

                         Scarlett

Illusion

Is this what you were going for?
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
November 16 2012 21:22 GMT
#397
On November 17 2012 06:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 06:04 TheDougler wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Group A:
Parting1st, Illusion 2nd

Parting > Socke
Illusion > Fenix
Parting > Illusion
Socke > Fenix
Illusion > Socke

Group B: Suppy 1st
Vibe 2nd. (If it wasn't for both of them having amazing ZvZ I wouldn't bet on them, but you gotta pick some upsets sometimes.)

Group C: Sen 1st, Grubby 2nd. (HuK might be able to beat Grubby due to him being a PvP champ, but I feel like going for the safer bet here).

Group D: Rain 1st, Babyknight (very straightforward actually)

Group E: Stephano 1st, Hero 2nd (I want to believe Hero!)

Group F: Curious 1st, CJ_Hero 2nd (again, pretty cut and dry. Maybe Major can beat the odds though).

Group G: Lucifron and... fuck it, state I suppose

Group H: Scarlett 1st, Nerchio 2nd. Creator gets upset. Acer is awesome.

This would set up the bracket as follows:

Parting

Nerchio (Parting's PvZ is BAAAAD lately)

Nerchio
Nerchio
Suppy

Suppy

State
Rain
Sen

CJHero

CJHero
Rain
Rain

Rain

LiquidHero

Stephano

Stephano

State
Stephano
Curious

Curious

Grubby
Stephano
Lucifron

Lucifron

Vibe
Scarlett
Scarlett

Scarlett

Ilussion


And then Rain 4:3 Stephano in the Finals, Scarlett 4 : 2 Nerchio in the semifinals.

Edit: Shit, the spacing didn't work out there at all.

+ Show Spoiler +
Parting
                           Nerchio (Parting's PvZ is BAAAAD lately)

Nerchio
                                                      Nerchio

Suppy
                           Suppy

State
                                                                            Rain
Sen

                          CJHero

CJHero
                                                        Rain
Rain
                            Rain

LiquidHero

Stephano
                        Stephano

State
                                                    Stephano
Curious

                         Curious

Grubby
                                                                      Stephano
Lucifron

                         Lucifron

Vibe
                                                    Scarlett
Scarlett

                         Scarlett

Illusion

Is this what you were going for?



OMG SHELLSHOCK YOU'RE AMAZING! Yes!

Question: are you a wizard? But yeah, that's my predictions
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
November 16 2012 21:25 GMT
#398
Make global competition.

Shit on Europe with schedule.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 16 2012 21:26 GMT
#399
For the sake of this tournament, HerO will win this group. Then Stephano will beat Rain so ridiculously that BL/infestor gets nerfed and then he'll get immortal all-in'd out by CJherO who then FINALLY gives us the HerO vs herO match that we deserve in the finals with capital HerO winning.
That's how I want this tournament to go. Never too much to dream of.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 16 2012 21:26 GMT
#400
On November 17 2012 06:25 Nihilnovi wrote:
Make global competition.

Shit on Europe with schedule.

Yeah it's quite bad... Won't be able to watch it live sadly
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