ALL KILL (and then finally qualify for Code A) (1)
6%
3 (0)
0%
4 (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: How many kills will YongHwa get?
(Vote): ALL KILL (and then lose in code B T_T) (Vote): ALL KILL (and then finally qualify for Code A) (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4
Poll: Will Coach Kang send out B Teamers?
Yes - Nestea :p :p :p (9)
69%
YongHwa All Kill, no chance for b team (2)
15%
Yes - dreamertt (1)
8%
Yes - 2 or more (1)
8%
Yes - horror (0)
0%
Yes - true (0)
0%
No he will not (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Will Coach Kang send out B Teamers?
(Vote): Yes - dreamertt (Vote): Yes - horror (Vote): Yes - true (Vote): Yes - Nestea :p :p :p (Vote): Yes - 2 or more (Vote): YongHwa All Kill, no chance for b team (Vote): No he will not
Two pretty good teams to watch. Hope for as little ZvP and ZvZ as possible, however LG-IM goes to Protoss in teamleague right now and MVP goes to Zerg right now so...yeah...
On November 10 2012 13:59 CuteZergling wrote: Errr... does anyone know how to watch both this and the HOTS invitational at the same time? GOM player only likes one at a time.
Press f5 on your gom player and there should be a box to tick to allow multiple gom players to open at once.
On November 10 2012 13:59 CuteZergling wrote: Errr... does anyone know how to watch both this and the HOTS invitational at the same time? GOM player only likes one at a time.
You can fix gomplayer to allow mutliple players to be open at the same time. Properties. Somewhere there.
On November 10 2012 14:18 Tachion wrote: my two favorite teams. le sigh. I want IM to win but....but that means DRG has to lose. Why do you do this to me world!?
Just hope DRG gets 4 kills then IM (specifically your favourite IM player) snaps back 5 straight!
On November 10 2012 14:18 Tachion wrote: my two favorite teams. le sigh. I want IM to win but....but that means DRG has to lose. Why do you do this to me world!?
Look at it this way. Its guaranteed one of them moves on :D
Uses ling/bling/muta to play Muspelheim perfectly, forcing the quick-ish third by Seed to be cancelled and it all went downhill from there with amazing control and snap decision making.
Pool first for Monster, probe being annoying, but hatch goes down right before pool finishes Nexus first for Seed, then forge
4:00 Standard from everyone, Seed takes two gas 4:10 Monster takes his third 5:00 Still no gas from Monster, Seed takes a third gas and starts +1 Attack before warpgate 6:10 Monster takes 2 gasses at his natural, Seed starts his robo at his natural with only one gate 7:00 Seed makes a Twilight and a warp prism. Monster starts seed and Lair is halfway done. 8:00 Roach warren 1/3 done. 4 stalkers and warp prism move out, a few more gates for Seed. 8:45 Seed drops with blinkstalkers, kills lings and an overlord, but he loses a stalker. Monster starts a spire 10:00 +2 halfway done for Seed. Blink almost done. Spire almost done with a macro hatch and +1 almost done. 10:30 Seed still being annoying with his warp prism and stalkers. Blink finishes with +2. 11:00 Monster has Mutas and denies the warp prism. Starts +1 flyer attack 12:00 Mutas go into the main and pick off a few probes while denying Seed's halfway done third. 13:00 Monster attacks into Seed's army, it isn't enough but does good damage 14:00 Seed stuck on two bases, Monster making blings. Ling Bling Muta time. 14:30 Monster with a BANELING BUST but forcefields keep the banelings at bay. Seed defends. 15:00 Monster's centrifugal hooks finishes, has a fourth, and Seed is still on 2 bases. 15:30 OH NO Seed's forcefields trap him in his 3rd, and banelings roll in to his main Nexus, and kills it with reinforcing lings. Seed looking dead. Might have zero Nexii 18:00 Monster's army catches Seed's in the middle. No chance for Seed and he GGs.
On November 10 2012 14:37 lichter wrote: Game 1 - Seed vs Monster on Muspelheim
Seed at 5 o clock Monster at 11 o clock
Pool first for Monster, probe being annoying, but hatch goes down right before pool finishes Nexus first for Seed, then forge
4:00 Standard from everyone, Seed takes two gas 4:10 Monster takes his third 5:00 Still no gas from Monster, Seed takes a third gas and starts +1 Attack before warpgate 6:10 Monster takes 2 gasses at his natural, Seed starts his robo at his natural with only one gate 7:00 Seed makes a Twilight and a warp prism. Monster starts seed and Lair is halfway done. 8:00 Roach warren 1/3 done. 4 stalkers and warp prism move out, a few more gates for Seed. 8:45 Seed drops with blinkstalkers, kills lings and an overlord, but he loses a stalker. Monster starts a spire 10:00 +2 halfway done for Seed. Blink almost done. Spire almost done with a macro hatch and +1 almost done. 10:30 Seed still being annoying with his warp prism and stalkers. Blink finishes with +2. 11:00 Monster has Mutas and denies the warp prism. Starts +1 flyer attack 12:00 Mutas go into the main and pick off a few probes while denying Seed's halfway done third. 13:00 Monster attacks into Seed's army, it isn't enough but does good damage 14:00 Seed stuck on two bases, Monster making blings. Ling Bling Muta time. 14:30 Monster with a BANELING BUST but forcefields keep the banelings at bay. Seed defends. 15:00 Monster's centrifugal hooks finishes, has a fourth, and Seed is still on 2 bases. 15:30 OH NO Seed's forcefields trap him in his 3rd, and banelings roll in to the Nexus, and kills it with reinforcing lings. Seed looking dead. 18:00 Monster's army catches Seed's in the middle. No chance for Seed and he GGs.
It looks like Monster's roach warren completely fooled Seed. He was chronoing out immortals and generally playing as though Monster was going for a roach based timing. I don't think See ever saw Monster's spire, the mutas were revealed when they took out Seed's warp prism and he didn't have time to construct a proper response.
On November 10 2012 14:40 geokilla wrote: Why no Own3D or Twitch stream? Code S was streamed on Own3D and Twitch..
It was only on Twitch because Sandy knocked out some sort of infrastructure regarding GOM streaming. Can't blame them for going back to the GOM player when everything is fixed, since it's part of the business model. (I think what I said is right, could be misremembering things)
On November 10 2012 14:44 Astro-Penguin wrote: if yonghwa wins I'm gonna have to make a hard decision whether to choose to watch him in gstl or naniwa in nasl...
Maybe I'm misreading but Naniwa's apparently getting walked-over in nasl
On November 10 2012 14:48 Havik_ wrote: Fuck, they started early. DAMN DST!!!!
How did Monster beat Seed?
ling/bling/muta (no bling until like the second/third push). seed lost his third and several gateways being made. monster used lings/mutas really nicely multiprong initially and then used seeds forcefields against him (trapped his own army) so monster wiped out the econ and production significantly.
seed had an alright immortal/sentry/stalker based army (i think he went 2/2 blink stalker or something? wasn't paying too close attention. thats pretty good against mutas generally) but he couldnt really break into monster.
On November 10 2012 14:44 Astro-Penguin wrote: if yonghwa wins I'm gonna have to make a hard decision whether to choose to watch him in gstl or naniwa in nasl...
Maybe I'm misreading but Naniwa's apparently getting walked-over in nasl
On November 10 2012 14:52 phoniv wrote: why doesnt tasteless and artosis cast this?
So they aren't overworked to death :p. I think I've seen Artosis cast GSTL and/or Code A every once in a while since he needs the money for his kid and all that....
I like these early lings from Monster. Completely denies the zealot/stalker pressure and allows him to poke and prod around, getting lots of map control. Plus knocking out those rocks relatively fast.
Game Summary YongHwa gets to three bases and Monster to four without much happening, YongHwa attacks just as Broodlords finish. Monster has too many lings that die to quickly to Colossus and forcefields. YongHwa blinks forward and kills all the Broodlords, and Monster decides to reinforce with mass ling and a few Broodlords, burning his whole bank and all his larva on lings. YongHwa's army of blink stalkers and colossus prove too much.
That didn't really impress me. He was floating so many minerals. Makes me think he made too many probes for his push and/or didn't get his gases early enough. Also why wouldn't he just put up a 4th when he moved out? He had 3500 minerals anyways.
There was also something weird the first time he blinked towards Monsters broodlords. He moved his stalkers so they didn't attack rightaway. Didn't really move them in a way that was of any benefit though so probably a misclick.
On November 10 2012 15:09 AgentW wrote: Legend was PISSED.
He does stuff like that all the time. He will spamming on something important as though to say "hey look at this, hey hey hey look at it" but they arent watching him do it or it doesnt click because they are focused on casting so they miss it.
On November 10 2012 15:09 AgentW wrote: Legend was PISSED.
He does stuff like that all the time. He will spamming on something important as though to say "hey look at this, hey hey hey look at it" but they arent watching him do it or it doesnt click because they are focused on casting so they miss it.
my favorite part about wolf and khalador is how insane they go every time 1 guy is microing a zealot vs 4 zerglings, they'll literally talk about it for 2-3 minutes
On November 10 2012 15:09 AgentW wrote: Legend was PISSED.
He does stuff like that all the time. He will spamming on something important as though to say "hey look at this, hey hey hey look at it" but they arent watching him do it or it doesnt click because they are focused on casting so they miss it.
Man I knew Tails was going to do that build to, I've seen him do it just recently in another tournament.... If only I could have somehow warned YongHwa
2:00 YongHwa with slightly earlier gasses, but both with 2 gasses before core 3:00 Yonghwa with another gate, Tails with a zealot 3:45 Warpgate, obviously 4:10 Tails with a robo, Yonghwa with a stargate. Gonna get interesting 5:20 5 gates for Tails? What the heck. Phoenixes from Yonghwa 6:00 Tails gonna try to warp into Yonghwa's main with an observer, but he scouts it. Pylons go up anyway. 7:00 Zealots warp into the main, Yonghwa has 3 phoenixes but not much else. 8:00 Yonghwa scouts with his phoenixes to find out the build. GG from Yonghwa
On November 10 2012 15:42 Dodgin wrote: I'm so tired of getting our asses handed to us in gstl, we are doing so well in IPTL and won IPLTAC3, I don't get it.
3:10 1 rax FE for YoDa, double gas for Tails but YoDa sees it 4:10 Stalker out for Tails, marines for YoDa, Wolf and Khaldor talking about Star Wars 4:22 2 more raxes for YoDa, Nexus for Tails 4:45 Double gas for Yoda 5:00 Twilight for Tails and gates. Tech lab on rax for YoDa 5:30 Robo for Tails. Bunker complete for YoDa 6:00 Robo almost done, blink starts. Blink obs, duh. YoDa starts stim and another bunker. More gates for Tails. Only one probe at the natural for Tails? 7:00 One more gas for YoDa, Factory halfway done. Proxy pylon goes down 7:15 YoDa getting his infrastructure on, reactors ebay and the usual 7:30 Missile turret at the front for YoDa 8:00 Tails blinks into the main. Blink all in it is. Marines die. 8:30 Blink stalkers go crazy. SCVs die, nothing left for YoDa. 9:something YoDa GGs.
On November 10 2012 15:51 Cyanocyst wrote: Odd in the Losira hands video on youtube, there wasn't that tilt on the keyboard.
it makes your 1a2a3a a bit easier. when your keyboard is totally straight, its a bit awkward to 1a2a3a for me.
I've always thought 1a2a3a was awkward, that's why i 5ata6a lol. Not that i'm good or anything.
What im most curious about is why the change, he didn't use to play like that.
How could 5t6 be less awkward? 'a' is about a million times closer to 123 O_o
you use the same finger for 1 and a whereas 5 and a are on two separate fingers so it's easier
Mb a good way to help with RSI (less wrist/arm movement) but I don't think it's much less awkward, and speed definitely isn't an issue with either method.
It's kinda an older style that can actually be really effective if the opponent doesn't identify it and commit into a roach/ling max to deny the third.
On November 10 2012 16:00 andaylin wrote: Please stop randomly crashing GOM
Huh. Haven't crashed yet, but I had problems watching the G* HotS tourney because of bizarre stutter-step audio/video micro. So, far lower resolution GSTL to the win.
On November 10 2012 16:01 Havik_ wrote: Tails is becoming one of my favorite players. These are way better games than the standard boring shit.
lolwut this is some non-standard boring shit. It's like Tails learns by heart some build but messes up in the process, so he just adds lots of gateway, builds lots of unit and go. Doesnt look like theres any specific timing either The way Losira plays is not less weird
4:00 Losira takes his third, and one gas 4:25 Double gas from Tails as well as cybercore. 5:00 Second cannon from Tails because he doesn't scout the third 5:30 4 gasses now for Tails, Losira gets speed and stops mining gas. Wait, did he cancel speed??? 6:30 Robo and Stargate for Tails, but Losira sees both. 7:00 Losira still not getting speed again, but takes 2 more gasses. 3 cannons now for Tails whut 7:30 Phoenixes and warp prism for Tails. Evos and roach warren for Losira as well as +1/+1 8:15 Lair starts. I think still no ling speed?? 8:45 Mass gateway and robo support bay for Tails. Weird build. 9:20 Roaches now for Losira. 9:45 Harass from Tails with Phoenix warp prism and Zealots. Does nothing. 10:00 Tails snipes the queen at the third as well as a few drones. 10:50 Still no third for Tails, probably an all in 11:00 +2/+2 for Losira 11:15 Tails taking a third finally, but Losira is on the way there 11:20 Spire starts for Losira 12:00 Losira donates units to Tails' third, doesn't even get a cancel 12:30 Spire and infestation pit both halfway done. Losira finally has speed. 13:00 Losira trying runbys but Tails is doing well. 13:30 Corruptors and a fourth for Losira, all the usual upgrades. Infestors on the way with energy upgrade 14:20 Blink for Tails. Both players macroing. 15:20 Losira very ling heavy. 15:30 They fight at the bottom. Lots of corruptors kill the colossus and warp prism but he doesn't have enough units. 16:30 Tails only has blink stalkers now, but reinforcing with zealots. Tails taking a fourth. 17:30 Still ling heavy for Losira. Hive starts kinda late. More infestors 18:30 Losira attacking Tails' fourth, lots of lings and infestors for Losira poops out infested terrans. Colossi and stalkers just crush all the light units, and the attack fails. 20:00 Ultralisk cavern, roaches, upgrades for Losira. Greater spire started also. Losira still walking around and losing units 21:00 Tails attacking Losira's fourth with lots of stalkers. Losira doesn't have a lot as he is waiting for Hive units. 22:00 Losira loses a lot of infestors, a lot of lings and roaches and he doesn't have many units, is broke. Can't make any Hive units. 22:30 Losira GGs.
On November 10 2012 16:12 Havik_ wrote: Mvp(the team) is about to win this. I don't think Mvp can beat Tails, Keen/Vampire/Someone else, and Sniper, AND DRG. I don't see it happening.
I might have to go in 30 minutes (at work, lol). If the match goes on longer than that hopefully a mod can update the OP, and someone can do LR and the recommended game polls. I will say when I need to go.
Anyone else think it'd be funny if Tails knocked YongHwa out of Code A qualifiers tommorow? (I'm a huge YongHwa fan but knowing his luck it would probably happen x.x)
Rofl... No matter what you hear from the casters. Tails played extremely well, but he got plain and simply lucky on the games against Losira and MVP. Blind build order wins.
On November 10 2012 16:30 lichter wrote: Srsly bros tell me what happened so I can update OP
hellions drop with medivack by mvp, kills like 15 probes tails decides to counter attack with warp prism and immortal + warp gates unit mvp fucks up with no repair on his tank, TWICE
On November 10 2012 16:30 mrtomjones wrote: Was MC not there today?
MC was there. Right in the middle of the IM bench.
you seriously don't think that's a bo loss? nothing to shoot up at the warp prism, free warp ins into the main, immortal to kill tanks ( the only real damage dealing unit he was producing )
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
3 bunkers for 2 marines?
he should have had a bunker up way earlier at the ramp, could have microed better.
the reason that build is so good right now is because it's so versatile.
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
3 bunkers for 2 marines?
meh if you choose a build like that you have to be ready to just flat out lose to other build orders, thats how those types of strategies work, just unfortunate for MVP I suppose
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
3 bunkers for 2 marines?
He lost the first tank to bad micro. He should of had two. His scvs were improperly microed the whole time.
Also needed to throw a bunker or two down once the gateway attack was coming in.
MVP still probably loses but it's closer this way.
On November 10 2012 16:33 andaylin wrote: It wasn't a build order loss, Mvp needed to micro better.
are you fucking kidding me lol
there were like 10 stalkers + an immortal, and he had no units. even if he did repair the tank he wouldn't have held it.
On November 10 2012 16:33 Figgy wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:29 Dodgin wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
3 bunkers for 2 marines?
He lost the first tank to bad micro. He should of had two. His scvs were improperly microed the whole time.
Also needed to throw a bunker or two down once the gateway attack was coming in.
MVP still probably loses but it's closer this way.
yea Mvp loses anyway, because of the build orders.
On November 10 2012 16:33 andaylin wrote: It wasn't a build order loss, Mvp needed to micro better.
are you fucking kidding me lol
there were like 10 stalkers + an immortal, and he had no units. even if he did repair the tank he wouldn't have held it.
On November 10 2012 16:33 Figgy wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:29 Dodgin wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
3 bunkers for 2 marines?
He lost the first tank to bad micro. He should of had two. His scvs were improperly microed the whole time.
Also needed to throw a bunker or two down once the gateway attack was coming in.
MVP still probably loses but it's closer this way.
sure he could have done it slightly better, but he was never going to hold it. that's the point, bo loss.
it's just really annoying/disappointing to see them lose the final match this way, I'm bitter.
On November 10 2012 16:33 andaylin wrote: It wasn't a build order loss, Mvp needed to micro better.
are you fucking kidding me lol
there were like 10 stalkers + an immortal, and he had no units. even if he did repair the tank he wouldn't have held it.
If he didn't lose the first two tanks I think it could've been pretty holdable. So long as the immortal goes down quickly, 3 mass repaired tanks will kill 10 stalkers.
Mvp goes for gas first. Factory built immediately after barracks. Reactor dropped on barracks. Starport started. At the same time, Tails goes for 1 gate robo. warp prism is built. Both players still not scouted each other. A hellion caught a probe scouting on the bottom left. Mvp moves out with 3 hellions in a medivac, a sentry barely caught vision of it. Hellions dropped into fog in main of Tails. Hellions move in, killed a bunch of probes, at the same time 3 hellions move up the ramp into the main, killing more probes. Mvp started a CC, Tails left with 10 probes. Mvp under attack from the warp prism drop in his main. A tank comes out from the factory, SCVs pulled to defend. Mvp manage to repel the attack but more reinforcements from Tails at the bottom of his ramp. Tails bust down the supply depots wall, killing all the scvs. Mvp has nothing left and ggs
On November 10 2012 16:37 wasabay wrote: Mvp goes for gas first. Factory built immediately after barracks. Reactor dropped on barracks. Starport started. At the same time, Tails goes for 1 gate robo. warp prism is built. Both players still not scouted each other. A hellion caught a probe scouting on the bottom left. Mvp moves out with 3 hellions in a medivac, a sentry barely caught vision of it. Hellions dropped into fog in main of Tails. Hellions move in, killed a bunch of probes, at the same time 3 hellions move up the ramp into the main, killing more probes. Mvp started a CC, Tails left with 10 probes. Mvp under attack from the warp prism drop in his main. A tank comes out from the factory, SCVs pulled to defend. Mvp manage to repel the attack but more reinforcements from Tails at the bottom of his ramp. Tails bust down the supply depots wall, killing all the scvs. Mvp has nothing left and ggs
On November 10 2012 16:37 dynwar7 wrote: Does tails always do this stuff? Does he rarely play a macro game?
He can play a macro game pretty good but not to par with a guy like YongHwa or MVP, his strengths definitely lie in his build orders and strategies. He does builds that every Protoss copys basically and starts doing 2 months later (he's a hipster), Naniwa and Sase both frequently copy him
Well, Tails does have a very good record against IM in teamleagues .... I remember that time he beat Mvp on Crossfire, and it was like, "Holy shit!" And then he beat NesTea. :O
Think this was in 1/1/1 era, so everyone was cheering for him.
I guess IM truly is cursed in GSTL. It looked bright earlier in the season, but eventually things turned out as they usually do. >_< I wonder if they would perform better under a different format.
On November 10 2012 18:33 Kasaraki wrote: I guess IM truly is cursed in GSTL. It looked bright earlier in the season, but eventually things turned out as they usually do. >_< I wonder if they would perform better under a different format.
IPTL (and TAC3 before that) were winners format and IM does well there. It seems they don't really have a sniper with specific builds. A lot of their loses are from opponents getting 4 or AK.
On November 10 2012 16:33 andaylin wrote: It wasn't a build order loss, Mvp needed to micro better.
are you fucking kidding me lol
there were like 10 stalkers + an immortal, and he had no units. even if he did repair the tank he wouldn't have held it.
On November 10 2012 16:33 Figgy wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:29 Dodgin wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:29 AgentChaos wrote: mvp choke like always in gstl
he didnt choke...bo loss
That wasn't a BO loss at all... if he went home and defended as soon as his initiate drop ended since he scouted 3 gate Robo he would have been fine. 3 bunkers there and he holds. Instead he lost 4 extra hellions trying to kill more probes against an all in.
3 bunkers for 2 marines?
He lost the first tank to bad micro. He should of had two. His scvs were improperly microed the whole time.
Also needed to throw a bunker or two down once the gateway attack was coming in.
MVP still probably loses but it's closer this way.
sure he could have done it slightly better, but he was never going to hold it. that's the point, bo loss.
it's just really annoying/disappointing to see them lose the final match this way, I'm bitter.
This is still wrong. With an extra tank and a bunker and some better micro he can hold that. He just didn't react properly because he totally misread his opponent.
I'm also betting he skipped a few units for that CC despite noticing the entire time Tails was still on one base. It's not just a BO loss. There's things he can do to win that game, even though the odds are very much against him
Ouch, too bad for IM, they always crash out of GSTL like this. Sad thing is, they have a top two line-up on paper, but their team is faltering as a whole recently, and only one or two IM players are playing well recently. Hope IM can get it together next time, and at least succeed in IPLTL.
Gratz to MVP, I expect an epic series between TSL and MVP, two of my favorite teams around.
IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
On November 11 2012 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
Maybe GSTL, they are doing well in IPTL. MC was 0-2 this season and Nestea dropped out of Code A while Yoda is Ro16 in Code S. At the end of the day, it comes down to the players performing. Tails just played well and had builds that countered the IM players.
On November 11 2012 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
Because Coach Kang seems to think GSTL is a bunch of show matches. And as opportunity for lesser known players to show off their skills...or sometimes lack there of.
On November 11 2012 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
Ok I'm tired of hearing this crap, the lineup they sent out was good. The players simply did not perform.
MC lost all three times he was played in this season, NesTea is in Code B and heavily slumping. Yoda is the only LG-IM player in Code S ro16.
They have problems with GSTL for whatever reason, they do well in online team leagues. Won IPL TAC 3 and are in the finals of IPTL.
On November 11 2012 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
Ok I'm tired of hearing this crap, the lineup they sent out was good. The players simply did not perform.
MC lost all three times he was played in this season, NesTea is in Code B and heavily slumping. Yoda is the only LG-IM player in Code S ro16.
They have problems with GSTL for whatever reason, they do well in online team leagues. Won IPL TAC 3 and are in the finals of IPTL.
I agree with all of this. The IM coach has made some really odd picks in the past that he understandably got flack for, but there was nothing wrong with the choices made tonight. The lineup was excellent, it's just that the players did not perform, and that Tails had some really good build choices up his sleeve.
Though as a side note, I'd say Yoda and Hyun got pretty lucky that Rain forfeited out, because one of them would have probably not made the Ro16 if Rain was there.
On November 11 2012 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
MC and Nestea suck atm. Yoda was a good choice. The line up is fine except Losira which I never trust. Not sure if IM has any other Zerg except Losira and Nestea but they're definitely weak at that.
On November 11 2012 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: IM is hands down one of the worst teams in team leagues. I simply cannot understand how they choose to not use MC or Nestea. Instead, they send out Yoda. Yoda is good, but in a BO9, there is absolutely no reason to leave out MC. Using MVP was smart, but I just can't understand the rationale of not using MC.
MC and Nestea suck atm. Yoda was a good choice. The line up is fine except Losira which I never trust. Not sure if IM has any other Zerg except Losira and Nestea but they're definitely weak at that.
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