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johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
November 11 2012 06:01 GMT
#1041
actually swarm hosts are pretty easy to beat, you can see mkp has barely played. At first i thought SH was really imba. then when i found out all you need to do is have a couple siege tanks mowing down the waves, then advancing after the wave is cleaned up slowly and resiegeing. Unless the zerg also retreats, You can out right kill the hosts ez
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 11 2012 06:01 GMT
#1042
On November 11 2012 15:00 Krossfire wrote:
wouldnt mind seeing another terran caster or re-working the raven


I believe Browder is on the record saying they will rework the Raven along with other units such as the Void Ray.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 11 2012 06:02 GMT
#1043
On November 11 2012 15:00 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 14:59 Laryleprakon wrote:
Man with all these Koreans dancing and showing personality, what will foreigners have?? they speak english is about it

foreigners need to study korean man!


Or start winning, w/e is easiest I guess.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 11 2012 06:02 GMT
#1044
On November 11 2012 15:01 johnny123 wrote:
actually swarm hosts are pretty easy to beat, you can see mkp has barely played. At first i thought SH was really imba. then when i found out all you need to do is have a couple siege tanks mowing down the waves, then advancing after the wave is cleaned up slowly and resiegeing. Unless the zerg also retreats, You can out right kill the hosts ez


One thing none of these guys are doing is burrowing their swarm hosts at different times, if you do it right you can have an endless wave of units.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 11 2012 06:02 GMT
#1045
That fan looked like a young Nestea
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 11 2012 06:03 GMT
#1046
GSL commentator making it rain
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 11 2012 06:04 GMT
#1047
On November 11 2012 15:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 15:01 johnny123 wrote:
actually swarm hosts are pretty easy to beat, you can see mkp has barely played. At first i thought SH was really imba. then when i found out all you need to do is have a couple siege tanks mowing down the waves, then advancing after the wave is cleaned up slowly and resiegeing. Unless the zerg also retreats, You can out right kill the hosts ez


One thing none of these guys are doing is burrowing their swarm hosts at different times, if you do it right you can have an endless wave of units.

I also imagine that constantly unburrowing and repositioning Swarm Hosts when their spawners are on cooldown could also be a powerful tactic since they're essentially sitting ducks during that period.
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
November 11 2012 06:04 GMT
#1048
On November 11 2012 15:00 Krossfire wrote:
wouldnt mind seeing another terran caster or re-working the raven

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=380463&currentpage=2#31

We are almost done designing the new units. Now we are considering to completely re-design several units such as Void-ray and Raven.
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
November 11 2012 06:05 GMT
#1049
On November 11 2012 15:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 15:01 johnny123 wrote:
actually swarm hosts are pretty easy to beat, you can see mkp has barely played. At first i thought SH was really imba. then when i found out all you need to do is have a couple siege tanks mowing down the waves, then advancing after the wave is cleaned up slowly and resiegeing. Unless the zerg also retreats, You can out right kill the hosts ez


One thing none of these guys are doing is burrowing their swarm hosts at different times, if you do it right you can have an endless wave of units.



in that case, you only unsiege a few to advance them instead of all. Its the same approach on how to counter them. Just saying its very easy for the terran to beat. SH aagainst protoss on the other hand i think is abit harder for them
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 11 2012 06:05 GMT
#1050
On November 11 2012 15:05 johnny123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 15:02 Dodgin wrote:
On November 11 2012 15:01 johnny123 wrote:
actually swarm hosts are pretty easy to beat, you can see mkp has barely played. At first i thought SH was really imba. then when i found out all you need to do is have a couple siege tanks mowing down the waves, then advancing after the wave is cleaned up slowly and resiegeing. Unless the zerg also retreats, You can out right kill the hosts ez


One thing none of these guys are doing is burrowing their swarm hosts at different times, if you do it right you can have an endless wave of units.



in that case, you only unsiege a few to advance them instead of all. Its the same approach on how to counter them. Just saying its very easy for the terran to beat. SH aagainst protoss on the other hand i think is abit harder for them


I guess it depends on what kind of units each player has out, if Zerg has viper they can pull the tanks into the range of locusts.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 11 2012 06:08 GMT
#1051
On November 11 2012 15:01 johnny123 wrote:
actually swarm hosts are pretty easy to beat, you can see mkp has barely played. At first i thought SH was really imba. then when i found out all you need to do is have a couple siege tanks mowing down the waves, then advancing after the wave is cleaned up slowly and resiegeing. Unless the zerg also retreats, You can out right kill the hosts ez


Yeah. I mean I haven't had much time with HoTS outside of a little experimentation but from what I have managed and seen from pros they don't feel like they'd be very effective against terran at all. Terran having the most ranged units for the locusts and an instant detection for killing the hosts seems like a direct counter to the design of the unit. Who knowns though, I mean I never would've thought banelings would be good against protoss in WoL.

So far I think the SH shines the most in ZvZ.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 06:13:33
November 11 2012 06:12 GMT
#1052
Phoenix + Oracle double stargate build seems pretty good, this is the second time I've seen it now.

Hmm, Jangbi didn't execute it the same as Parting did, though. Stopped making Phoenix at 1.
KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
November 11 2012 06:12 GMT
#1053
Wth is Jangbi doing with those oracles...
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 11 2012 06:13 GMT
#1054
Leenock going mass queen!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 11 2012 06:13 GMT
#1055
Leenock doing a good job of deflecting this Oracle harass with ease, and a Nydus is on the way.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 11 2012 06:14 GMT
#1056
Does Jangbi even have a mothership core? lol
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 11 2012 06:14 GMT
#1057
thank you for being awesome Leenck

<3
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
November 11 2012 06:14 GMT
#1058
On November 11 2012 15:04 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 15:00 Krossfire wrote:
wouldnt mind seeing another terran caster or re-working the raven

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=380463&currentpage=2#31

Show nested quote +
We are almost done designing the new units. Now we are considering to completely re-design several units such as Void-ray and Raven.


awesome, wonder what they will do especially with void ray

anyone know what late game zvp looks like in hots?
For the Swarm * DRG *
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
November 11 2012 06:15 GMT
#1059
this is a pretty cool build from mr leenock
For the Swarm * DRG *
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 11 2012 06:15 GMT
#1060
lol SH + Queens imba
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