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On October 12 2012 00:49 whatevername wrote:
I really hope this elephant thing goes away soon, its getting old. I do think the bw players have vastly superior mechanics etc, but realistically, a lot of REALLY good ex bw pros did a lot worse than youd expect, while bad players did better: Before sc2 if you told me forgg was going retire and try it, and so was Iron (mc) I would obviously have predicted FORGG would smash the scene. Hes done just fine but hes not destroying everyone. I definitely would of predicted Nada would do far better than Zergbong. I donno. I expect some bw players to reach top tier and kick others down, same with the mid and low tier, but I dont expect them to just wash everyone away.
mc started earlier, forgg was in bad shape i think, we dont know the players dedication levels, wasnt forgg not on a team for a quite a while? nada didnt practice really, possibly didnt care, was in bad shape already. little practice means he shouldnt have been understanding the game nearly as well as the average, which should be tough in a game where a small judgement mistake is so crushing.
THE reason they wont is cause they cant in such a volitile, low skill ceiling game. we already know how good they are and how much better they are
On October 12 2012 04:07 Warlock40 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 03:49 BlazeFury01 wrote:On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated. So being the best terran and also #1 bw player in the world is (according to your logic) "destined to be overrated". How about you post up his 70% win ratio bw record and explain to me how he's "overrated". I assume with your logic that MVP is overrated as well. Overrated in SC2. When people expect him to deliver similarly spectacular results in SC2 based on how he did in BW (which is obviously no fair and not his fault), and he does not reach those levels, he has been overrated.
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising?
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On October 12 2012 04:08 fakgfdgfdh wrote:how cant you see that? Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected? I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-k424_Flash Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated. and in exactly what way would that be overrating him
And how long has flash played this game full time vs everybody your comparing him to? Domination comes with experience and a lot of practice. Something flash has a lack thereof vs who your comparing him to. So, he's not overrated at this point.
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yessss
bye bye Flash, see you in code A
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On October 12 2012 02:57 Chengakz wrote:
Goodbye MMA... =(
Im not very familiar with the BW scene but seems like the names that I do hear (because people expect them to do well..as Ive heard from some forums here) have not fared very well in SC2...whereas the least expected or so-called B team in BW are the ones who are making it big in SC2. So far anyway. It must be quite surreal for the BW superstars after experiencing so much success.
not sure which one you think are b teamers but most are on the a team that are doing well.
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On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising?
I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something.
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On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something.
One loss to a player that he "shouldn't" have lost to is an upset. Multiple upsets are what lead to a player being titled overrated.
It could also be the case that Mini was underrated, no?
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On October 12 2012 05:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 04:08 fakgfdgfdh wrote:how cant you see that? On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected? I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-k424_Flash Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated. and in exactly what way would that be overrating him And how long has flash played this game full time vs everybody your comparing him to? Domination comes with experience and a lot of practice. Something flash has a lack thereof vs who your comparing him to. So, he's not overrated at this point.
i dont know how long, whats your point? who am i comparing him to? how are you able to tell if hes overrated at this point?
On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something.
how exactly did you make that equation?
On October 12 2012 06:56 Dakure wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. One loss to a player that he "shouldn't" have lost to is an upset. Multiple upsets are what lead to a player being titled overrated.
no, upsets never prove overration. someone being worse than you rate them as makes them overrated for you.
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On October 12 2012 06:56 fakgfdgfdh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:08 fakgfdgfdh wrote:how cant you see that? On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected? I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-k424_Flash Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated. and in exactly what way would that be overrating him And how long has flash played this game full time vs everybody your comparing him to? Domination comes with experience and a lot of practice. Something flash has a lack thereof vs who your comparing him to. So, he's not overrated at this point. i dont know how long, whats your point? who am i comparing him to? how are you able to tell if hes overrated at this point? Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. how exactly did you make that equation? Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 06:56 Dakure wrote:On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. One loss to a player that he "shouldn't" have lost to is an upset. Multiple upsets are what lead to a player being titled overrated. no, upsets never prove overration. someone being worse than you rate them as makes them overrated for you.
My response was for the guy you initially quoted and responded to. But, I will go ahead and answer your questions anyway. The point is that you can't say somebody is "overrated" if they haven't even been playing that long. To answer your last question, you can't overrated him at this point because of his lack of experience. He's been playing this game "full time" for about what...2 months now?
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has someone stolen MMA's jacket?
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So basically Mvp sits in yet another GSL final, while MMA might end up getting trashed to Code B.
That contrast looks so bizzare and hilarious, regarding the fact both were in the same tier of skill not too long ago. Sad Story bro
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 Bomber and MMA please get into Code S
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On October 12 2012 07:12 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 06:56 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 12 2012 05:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:08 fakgfdgfdh wrote:how cant you see that? On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected? I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-k424_Flash Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated. and in exactly what way would that be overrating him And how long has flash played this game full time vs everybody your comparing him to? Domination comes with experience and a lot of practice. Something flash has a lack thereof vs who your comparing him to. So, he's not overrated at this point. i dont know how long, whats your point? who am i comparing him to? how are you able to tell if hes overrated at this point? On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. how exactly did you make that equation? On October 12 2012 06:56 Dakure wrote:On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. One loss to a player that he "shouldn't" have lost to is an upset. Multiple upsets are what lead to a player being titled overrated. no, upsets never prove overration. someone being worse than you rate them as makes them overrated for you. My response was for the guy you initially quoted and responded to. But, I will go ahead and answer your questions anyway. The point is that you can't say somebody is "overrated" if they haven't even been playing that long. To answer your last question, you can't overrated him at this point because of his lack of experience. He's been playing this game "full time" for about what...2 months now?
why cant yuo rate someone who hasnt played that long?
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flash, supernova, mma
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On October 12 2012 08:05 fakgfdgfdh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 07:12 BlazeFury01 wrote:On October 12 2012 06:56 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 12 2012 05:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:08 fakgfdgfdh wrote:how cant you see that? On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected? I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-k424_Flash Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated. and in exactly what way would that be overrating him And how long has flash played this game full time vs everybody your comparing him to? Domination comes with experience and a lot of practice. Something flash has a lack thereof vs who your comparing him to. So, he's not overrated at this point. i dont know how long, whats your point? who am i comparing him to? how are you able to tell if hes overrated at this point? On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. how exactly did you make that equation? On October 12 2012 06:56 Dakure wrote:On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising? I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something. One loss to a player that he "shouldn't" have lost to is an upset. Multiple upsets are what lead to a player being titled overrated. no, upsets never prove overration. someone being worse than you rate them as makes them overrated for you. My response was for the guy you initially quoted and responded to. But, I will go ahead and answer your questions anyway. The point is that you can't say somebody is "overrated" if they haven't even been playing that long. To answer your last question, you can't overrated him at this point because of his lack of experience. He's been playing this game "full time" for about what...2 months now? why cant yuo rate someone who hasnt played that long?
You can rate somebody that hasn't played that long but you can't "overrate" someone who hasn't played that long.
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mini isn't that bad guys.
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On October 12 2012 07:14 CeriseCherries wrote:
fack flash wat da faq
I lol'ed.
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On October 12 2012 07:47 Inzan1ty wrote:
So basically Mvp sits in yet another GSL final, while MMA might end up getting trashed to Code B.
That contrast looks so bizzare and hilarious, regarding the fact both were in the same tier of skill not too long ago. Sad Story bro
Yeah, I really feel like MMA could/should still be a really top-tier player, but at the moment he definitely ain't. It's weird, of all the "fallen champions" of the GSL, I really feel like MMA is the one who really doesn't belong where he is right now.
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Flash and MMA both getting toppled... sad for MMA, not so sad for Flash (although surprised).
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