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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 12 2012 01:57 GMT
#941
On October 12 2012 08:15 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 08:05 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On October 12 2012 07:12 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 12 2012 06:56 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On October 12 2012 05:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 12 2012 04:08 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:
just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected?
I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best so far.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/424_Flash

how cant you see that?

On October 12 2012 00:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 12 2012 00:38 sharkie wrote:
just out of curiosity why do people call Flash losing surprising or unexpected?
I don't see how there could have been any favourite in this match up. Flash's SC2 record has been ok at best
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-k424_Flash


Because he is Flash and this is the SC2 community. Which means that he was destined to be overrated.

and in exactly what way would that be overrating him

And how long has flash played this game full time vs everybody your comparing him to? Domination comes with experience and a lot of practice. Something flash has a lack thereof vs who your comparing him to. So, he's not overrated at this point.

i dont know how long, whats your point? who am i comparing him to? how are you able to tell if hes overrated at this point?

On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:
On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:

and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising?


I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something.

how exactly did you make that equation?

On October 12 2012 06:56 Dakure wrote:
On October 12 2012 05:59 Warlock40 wrote:
On October 12 2012 04:20 fakgfdgfdh wrote:

and in what way is it overrating flash to say that him losing to mini is surprising?


I meant in general. But if you must, one can only be surprised / disappointed if one has overrated something.

One loss to a player that he "shouldn't" have lost to is an upset. Multiple upsets are what lead to a player being titled overrated.

no, upsets never prove overration. someone being worse than you rate them as makes them overrated for you.

My response was for the guy you initially quoted and responded to. But, I will go ahead and answer your questions anyway. The point is that you can't say somebody is "overrated" if they haven't even been playing that long. To answer your last question, you can't overrated him at this point because of his lack of experience. He's been playing this game "full time" for about what...2 months now?

why cant yuo rate someone who hasnt played that long?

You can rate somebody that hasn't played that long but you can't "overrate" someone who hasn't played that long.


That doesn't even make sense. As long as you can rate someone, then they can be overrated.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
October 12 2012 05:04 GMT
#942
Wow, awful day for terrans.
Chicken gank op
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
October 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#943
Well what a shocker the guys who practice more, have an actual coach staff instead of 1-2 coaches per team and actually get a salary for doing this beat all the other guys who practice as much as they want...

I really hope a lot of kespa players get through up and downs so next season of code s is all about gom vs kespa :D
Atrain1982
Profile Joined March 2011
United States23 Posts
October 12 2012 13:39 GMT
#944
I haven't watched any Mini games before, but his unit composition in Game 3 seemed rather unique. Off the top of my head I can't think of a TvP were the protoss incorporated so many pheonix into his late game build. While I am only familiar with Flash's BW prowess, at this stage of his SCII developement, it may be too much to ask for him to come up with a counter "on-the-fly" to deal with Mini's unit comp.

If there are other examples of Mini or someone else using this composition, I would certainly like to see those games to see how terran handled it.
CrappyHippo
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada275 Posts
October 12 2012 13:40 GMT
#945
Oh come on flash.
Everlasting Starcraft
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 12 2012 13:40 GMT
#946
On October 12 2012 22:39 Atrain1982 wrote:
I haven't watched any Mini games before, but his unit composition in Game 3 seemed rather unique. Off the top of my head I can't think of a TvP were the protoss incorporated so many pheonix into his late game build. While I am only familiar with Flash's BW prowess, at this stage of his SCII developement, it may be too much to ask for him to come up with a counter "on-the-fly" to deal with Mini's unit comp.

If there are other examples of Mini or someone else using this composition, I would certainly like to see those games to see how terran handled it.

it's a really old build
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183807
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fakgfdgfdh
Profile Joined May 2012
79 Posts
October 12 2012 15:11 GMT
#947
On October 12 2012 22:39 Atrain1982 wrote:
I haven't watched any Mini games before, but his unit composition in Game 3 seemed rather unique. Off the top of my head I can't think of a TvP were the protoss incorporated so many pheonix into his late game build. While I am only familiar with Flash's BW prowess, at this stage of his SCII developement, it may be too much to ask for him to come up with a counter "on-the-fly" to deal with Mini's unit comp.

If there are other examples of Mini or someone else using this composition, I would certainly like to see those games to see how terran handled it.

hes played 13ish hours a day for 5 months by now. i would expect him to know the small amount of valid strategies in this game. incredibly, they often not seem to
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
October 12 2012 18:29 GMT
#948
Flash games were okay but still nothing to hold against him. Some of the stuff he could have done better are obvious things I think he will fix as he plays more and gets the hang of unit control, composition and their dmg output more and more.

Those bunkers in G2 even while missing the GW's with his scan and the proxy plyon with his scv was sick even though he wasn't able to hold.

What I really wanted to get on here to say was Great Games by Gumiho. The ghost control so sick in G1 and he was so relentless in G3. Fun to watch. (coming from someone who only watched these 2 series though lol))
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
October 13 2012 04:36 GMT
#949
On October 13 2012 00:11 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 22:39 Atrain1982 wrote:
I haven't watched any Mini games before, but his unit composition in Game 3 seemed rather unique. Off the top of my head I can't think of a TvP were the protoss incorporated so many pheonix into his late game build. While I am only familiar with Flash's BW prowess, at this stage of his SCII developement, it may be too much to ask for him to come up with a counter "on-the-fly" to deal with Mini's unit comp.

If there are other examples of Mini or someone else using this composition, I would certainly like to see those games to see how terran handled it.

hes played 13ish hours a day for 5 months by now. i would expect him to know the small amount of valid strategies in this game. incredibly, they often not seem to


During like 4 of those 5 months he was also playing BW professionally, to be fair.
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