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Lone Star Clash 2: $35k SC2 + LoL, Nov 10-11 in TX - Page 54

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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
November 10 2012 17:49 GMT
#1061
swarm hosts should throw angry marines.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 10 2012 17:49 GMT
#1062
Ganzi getting Factory w/Reactor

Ret going Roaches
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#1063
On November 11 2012 02:49 ChApFoU wrote:
Why oh why do observers have healthbars always active ????

You can't see shit, it's SO annoying T_T;

health bars are the only thing that matters!
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#1064
oh there are two sc2 streams

i was like...viewer count is pretty bad considering the event got a lot of hype and a front page article
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#1065
regarding the probability question , shouldn't it add up to 100%, because else you would've a rest percentage chance of nobody winning which doesn't make sense.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#1066
when will Polt/Bommer play
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
November 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#1067
On November 11 2012 02:47 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 02:45 Mouzone wrote:
Is there a second SC2 stream?

for some reason the main sc2 stream isn't listed

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Lone Star Clash


thanks. Wasn't aware of this.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
November 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#1068
nice hold
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
November 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#1069
On November 11 2012 02:50 Arceus wrote:
when will Polt/Bommer play


If LSC goes full MLG they might not even show a Polt game.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
November 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#1070
Where is stream 1?
SEn hwaiting!!!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17730 Posts
November 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#1071
On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 02:26 TheBB wrote:
On November 11 2012 02:22 Toxi78 wrote:
On November 11 2012 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On November 11 2012 02:16 Sated wrote:
On November 11 2012 02:15 TheBB wrote:
After BK vs TheStC.
+ Show Spoiler +
Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 41.656%
      viOLet: 33.146%
      Polt: 7.848%
      TheStC: 6.464%
      CranK: 5.216%
      Bomber: 4.290%
      BabyKnight: 0.492%
      Sheth: 0.374%
      Hawk: 0.206%
      ToD: 0.106%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      Ret: 0.058%
      NaNiwa: 0.032%
      ThorZaIN: 0.020%
      Axslav: 0.012%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.576 rounds (top 2)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.986 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.681 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 2.988 rounds (top 6)
      Bomber: 2.741 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.882 rounds (top 8)
      BabyKnight: 1.823 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.647 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.469 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.296 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.250 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 1.017 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.928 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.476 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.308 rounds (top 16)

What is that based on?

International Elo

well these stats are incredibly bullshit, tod having more "chances" to win the tournament than ganzi who was GSL TOP4 1 year ago, while tod has never accomplished anything ever on sc2.
and god knows with what background i say this, im a french wc3 player.

Pretty tired of hearing things like these. Sure, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I've said that like 20 times now. If it's based on international Elo, then it's necessarily based on performances in international tournaments. Does Ganzi have any to speak of? Not really. So it's not surprising that he is so unfavoured.

Still, you'd be surprised how little a top 4 GSL placement a year past has to say. How good was Jinro a year after his?


then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense?
just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious.
why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense?
the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed.
your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at.

I really like his stats, they are especially great in the GSL
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renlynn
Profile Joined May 2011
United States276 Posts
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1072
On November 11 2012 02:49 ChApFoU wrote:
Why oh why do observers have healthbars always active ????

You can't see shit, it's SO annoying T_T;


it's a good compromise if you don't trust yourself to turn them on at the right times
Demonidze
Profile Joined May 2012
194 Posts
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1073
On November 11 2012 02:45 Mouzone wrote:
Is there a second SC2 stream?


yes http://twitch.tv/lonestarclash3/popout
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1074
pulls back A marauder which is being mildly damaged. "FINESSE micro"
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1075
Finally the lag is gone !
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:52:55
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1076
Next matches on main stream : CranK-ThorZaIN and NaNiwa-Hawk (Day[9] on twitter)
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1077
Stream 1:

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Lone Star Clash
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#1078
main stream listed on the sidebar now, woo.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 10 2012 17:53 GMT
#1079
On November 11 2012 02:52 Boucot wrote:
Next matches on main stream : CranK-ThorZaIN and NaNiwa-Hawk (Day[9] on twitter)

Thanks for the info. Gogo NaNiwa
EZ4ENCE
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
November 10 2012 17:53 GMT
#1080
Yep, that's gg for Ret.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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