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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 10 2012 12:43 GMT
#3901
On October 10 2012 21:39 red4ce wrote:
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On October 10 2012 21:36 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:34 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:33 skyflyfish wrote:
damn LG-IM, 3 finals in a row, st 2/4 not bad


I didn't even think about this, good spot. Really showing the strength of IM and ST, clearly the top 2 ESF teams IMO.


ST may be 2nd best to IM, but they still have a long way to go before they can even compare to IM in terms of calibre


Thankfully for the opposition, coach Kang will make sure to level the playing field with his lineup choices.


I would agree with you until seed became a GSL champion, losira came close to two all-kills, and yongwha has already had two all-kills this season.

IM - the greatest ever? Yankees of SC2?
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:45:13
October 10 2012 12:44 GMT
#3902
helllll yeah mvp prevails. and damn didnt expect taeja to get 3-0ed but did expect him to lose.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 10 2012 12:45 GMT
#3903
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
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On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart
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snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:46:50
October 10 2012 12:46 GMT
#3904
On October 10 2012 21:29 TeeTS wrote:
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On October 10 2012 21:25 snafoo wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:23 WardenSC wrote:
life's so sick.. who would've guessed taeja would go out getting 0-3ed lol
Also I feel life's right on the ball when he says MVP is not really good at actual game itself but he's so good at planning for a BO7. That is why I expect MVP to win the final :D


I don't even really understand that, he crushed Symbol straight up in Ro8 without even using any mindgames afaik.


Well MVP is not exceptional strong mechanically. He wins his games through strategy but even more through decision making. He does not have crazy micro and macro skills like fellow Terrans Taeja, Byun or Marineking, but he knows how to solve problems he's facing much better than anyone else. This will be definately an interesting finals. On one hand we have the incredible gifted Life with the best mechanics we have ever seen from a Zerg player (sry DRG, but this is it!) and on the other hand MVP with his great preparation and decision making.
Could make up for a great finals but could be very one sided either way too.


I don't understand this.... MVP vs Symbol in Ro8, MVP was almost always equal on supply or ahead of zerg - maybe Symbol was just macroing poorly, but I've seen MVP do it alot. MVP's multitasking is also pretty insane too, if you watched IEM; his drop harrass was just as good if not better than alot of other top terrans(always taking out other bases, or attacking somewhere when the zerg pushes across the map.

On top of all of this he also picks builds, hits at perfect timings and prepares for people alot better then these other terrans too. People really try to downplay MVP's actual skill and mechanics for some reason. Dunno why.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:47:46
October 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#3905
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

what, against Mvp for GSL november? wow, no way


oh you mean leenock jjakji my bad
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
October 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#3906
On October 10 2012 21:35 sharkie wrote:
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On October 10 2012 21:30 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On October 08 2012 17:59 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Remember when people claimed PartinG was going to smash Mvp? PartinG had done much the same as Rain this season, crushing everyone in his path. Mvp is just a washed up shadow of his former self, with a wrist injury to boot, right?

Wrong. Even if Rain had crushed Mvp 20-0 in other tournaments, that doesn't mean a DAMN THING to Mvp right now. The GSL is Mvp's playground. Rain is trying to get a legitimate claim to best in the world, but he can't do that unless he beats Mvp on his home turf. You can talk about Rain's amazing run all you want, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE TIME people count Mvp out, he wins. GSL is Mvp's home turf, where he thrives in this EXACT kind of environment. Throw out your statistics all you want, but they don't mean a damn thing to Mvp.

If Mvp wins, Rain is another derailed hype train, just like so many before him. But if Rain wins, he will win this season of GSL and be on the road to immortality.

Rain couldn't get the job done. He had all the hype and momentum in the world behind him and he still couldn't beat Mvp. Mvp proves once again that he is the best.


Wth. You make it sound like Rain just got outplayed. It was a close 3-2 series. Dont be bitter because your player lost horribly.

...I was rooting for Mvp.

I didn't say he got outplayed, I said Mvp solidified himself as The Great One, which he is.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
October 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#3907
Two things :
-Never bet against Mvp on GSL ground. (T.T)
-Fuck yeah TvZ final, best match up.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#3908
On October 10 2012 21:24 neggro wrote:
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On October 10 2012 21:21 LimitSEA wrote:
Can't wait to see what Mvp actually does prepare for Life. When are the finals? I've got a Barcraft to go to~

Would love to Barcraft a GSL sometime, but the time difference is just grrrrrrr... I mean who Barcrafts at dawn to watch SC2?

We did a brunchcraft for the DRG - Genius finals, and it was a massive success. We were planning another for these finals, but unfortunately it will start two hours earlier. It's not looking so good.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 10 2012 12:49 GMT
#3909
On October 10 2012 21:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart


lol
No one was saying Life was one of the weakest players in Ro16 during group selection.
This guy is TSL4 2nd place and a monster in Korean weeklies.

This guy isn't even playing this game full time and he is consistently 1#GM in Korean Server along with Creator.
Play your best
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:50:45
October 10 2012 12:50 GMT
#3910
On October 10 2012 21:41 humblegar wrote:
Second game he was fine and perhaps ahead until he lowered that depot. He looked shaken after that game. I think he could have used someone there to back him up?

This is a good point. Hero and Taeja are great players, but Liquid could really use some kind of support system over there. They tear through groups like nobody's business, but they tend to fall in the matches.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 10 2012 12:50 GMT
#3911
On October 10 2012 21:49 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart


lol
No one was saying Life was one of the weakest players in Ro16 during group selection.
This guy is TSL4 2nd place and a monster in Korean weeklies.

This guy isn't even playing this game full time and he is consistently 1#GM in Korean Server along with Creator.

People were definitely saying Life was one of the weakest players. You may not have. I wasnt. But people definitely were
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 10 2012 12:51 GMT
#3912
On October 10 2012 21:49 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart


lol
No one was saying Life was one of the weakest players in Ro16 during group selection.
This guy is TSL4 2nd place and a monster in Korean weeklies.

This guy isn't even playing this game full time and he is consistently 1#GM in Korean Server along with Creator.

he's fulltime now, but going back to school soon i think?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
October 10 2012 12:51 GMT
#3913
MVP true final boss of wings of liberty
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
October 10 2012 12:52 GMT
#3914
On October 10 2012 21:43 isaachukfan wrote:
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On October 10 2012 21:40 MateShade wrote:
Loses in the semi's of the GSL. All of a sudden overrated overhyped etc etc... grow up kids

Yes, but losers in the semi final is a very long way from "rain 3-0 MVP EsF players can't compare to the skill of Brood War, what noobs it's already over, double RR time!"

was takling about taeja but yes there will probably be that reaction towards rain too
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
October 10 2012 12:52 GMT
#3915
Argh. What is it with HerO's and TaeJa's results as of late? So close...
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snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
October 10 2012 12:52 GMT
#3916
On October 10 2012 21:49 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart


lol
No one was saying Life was one of the weakest players in Ro16 during group selection.
This guy is TSL4 2nd place and a monster in Korean weeklies.

This guy isn't even playing this game full time and he is consistently 1#GM in Korean Server along with Creator.


It really all just shows how little the foreign scene knows about Korean players skill levels... I remember when Polt was one of the most disliked and overlooked players, until he went to a few foreign tournaments and beat foreigners then all of a sudden he's amazing, sick good top tier terran(which he is, but still, people didn't think this beforehand).
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 10 2012 12:52 GMT
#3917
On October 10 2012 21:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:39 red4ce wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:36 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:34 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:33 skyflyfish wrote:
damn LG-IM, 3 finals in a row, st 2/4 not bad


I didn't even think about this, good spot. Really showing the strength of IM and ST, clearly the top 2 ESF teams IMO.


ST may be 2nd best to IM, but they still have a long way to go before they can even compare to IM in terms of calibre


Thankfully for the opposition, coach Kang will make sure to level the playing field with his lineup choices.


I would agree with you until seed became a GSL champion, losira came close to two all-kills, and yongwha has already had two all-kills this season.

IM - the greatest ever? Yankees of SC2?


IM - 1 GSTL championship despite the most stacked lineup in SC2.
Yankees - 1 World Series in the past decade despite the most stacked lineup in baseball (usually)

If that's what you meant, then yeah the comparison is apt.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:53:51
October 10 2012 12:53 GMT
#3918
Mvp is the best at TvZ and at preparation for BoX. He is the scariest and hardest opponent in finals ever but I will hope and believe that Life can do it. LIFE HWAITING!!! I really really hope it will be the best finals ever!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 10 2012 12:53 GMT
#3919
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ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:54:54
October 10 2012 12:53 GMT
#3920
On October 10 2012 21:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:49 FakeDeath wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:
Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks)

Jjakji 2.0


Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous.

True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart


lol
No one was saying Life was one of the weakest players in Ro16 during group selection.
This guy is TSL4 2nd place and a monster in Korean weeklies.

This guy isn't even playing this game full time and he is consistently 1#GM in Korean Server along with Creator.

he's fulltime now, but going back to school soon i think?


I don't think he is fulltime.
He mentioned in an interview he ask permission from his teacher to take a day off just to play at the GSL.
(He said this after he all-killed TL and another time in Code S Ro16 or Ro32)

He mentioned in his interview after beating MKP that he was in the process of transferring school and that's why he had a lot of time to practice.
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