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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
fakgfdgfdh
Profile Joined May 2012
79 Posts
October 10 2012 12:30 GMT
#3861
On October 10 2012 19:16 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 19:15 YourHarry wrote:
I think these polls should be:

My favorite player won:

YES
NO

no one wants to watch a game where mvp does a 3 phase all in where every phase is awful

oh, where?
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:31:23
October 10 2012 12:30 GMT
#3862
On October 08 2012 17:59 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Remember when people claimed PartinG was going to smash Mvp? PartinG had done much the same as Rain this season, crushing everyone in his path. Mvp is just a washed up shadow of his former self, with a wrist injury to boot, right?

Wrong. Even if Rain had crushed Mvp 20-0 in other tournaments, that doesn't mean a DAMN THING to Mvp right now. The GSL is Mvp's playground. Rain is trying to get a legitimate claim to best in the world, but he can't do that unless he beats Mvp on his home turf. You can talk about Rain's amazing run all you want, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE TIME people count Mvp out, he wins. GSL is Mvp's home turf, where he thrives in this EXACT kind of environment. Throw out your statistics all you want, but they don't mean a damn thing to Mvp.

If Mvp wins, Rain is another derailed hype train, just like so many before him. But if Rain wins, he will win this season of GSL and be on the road to immortality.

Rain couldn't get the job done. He had all the hype and momentum in the world behind him and he still couldn't beat Mvp. Mvp proves once again that he is the best.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
October 10 2012 12:31 GMT
#3863
On October 10 2012 19:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
For all purists out there, does this end the royal road for Rain?

Can you win the royal road in a tournaments first edition i.e. OSL?

I'm inclined to say it did. Even though his performance has been nothing short of amazing it isn't a royal road.

Also I feel that you can't get a royal road when it's the first tournament. A royal road is meant show that someone has insane talent and is an extremely good newcomer; neither of those can be said when it's the first tournament as you have nothing to compare it against.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
October 10 2012 12:31 GMT
#3864
Guys I root for Life since this news and you can not even imagine how happy I am now, THaNK YOU LIFE FOR MAKING ME SO HAPPY!!!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2012 12:31 GMT
#3865
On October 10 2012 21:27 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:25 snafoo wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:23 WardenSC wrote:
life's so sick.. who would've guessed taeja would go out getting 0-3ed lol
Also I feel life's right on the ball when he says MVP is not really good at actual game itself but he's so good at planning for a BO7. That is why I expect MVP to win the final :D


I don't even really understand that, he crushed Symbol straight up in Ro8 without even using any mindgames afaik.

Mvp's decrease in skill is severely overstated I feel. In important matches he can micro better than a lot of good players, and he's still really good mechanically. He's definitely fallen behind a bit due to his shorter practice time, but I don't think it's correct to say he isn't as good at the game as others.


If being Mvp is playing the game wrong I don't want to be right.

He's probably going to be the only player to make two GSL finals in this entire year.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 10 2012 12:31 GMT
#3866
On October 10 2012 21:29 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:25 snafoo wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:23 WardenSC wrote:
life's so sick.. who would've guessed taeja would go out getting 0-3ed lol
Also I feel life's right on the ball when he says MVP is not really good at actual game itself but he's so good at planning for a BO7. That is why I expect MVP to win the final :D


I don't even really understand that, he crushed Symbol straight up in Ro8 without even using any mindgames afaik.


Well MVP is not exceptional strong mechanically. He wins his games through strategy but even more through decision making. He does not have crazy micro and macro skills like fellow Terrans Taeja, Byun or Marineking, but he knows how to solve problems he's facing much better than anyone else. This will be definately an interesting finals. On one hand we have the incredible gifted Life with the best mechanics we have ever seen from a Zerg player (sry DRG, but this is it!) and on the other hand MVP with his great preparation and decision making.
Could make up for a great finals but could be very one sided either way too.


Mvp's macro is at least on par with Taeja, Byun and MKP. His positioning is so good that he doesn't have to rely on pure micro.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3867
On October 10 2012 21:24 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:23 Waxangel wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:22 Quintum_ wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:19 TheBrainiac wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:18 Sigmur wrote:
Tastless has been saying all this time that he is 14. I just checked. He will be 16 in January. Still very young, but makes a difference.


That's if you're going by Korean age, in Western age he would only be 14.

He was born in January 1997. He's 15 in western age

They confuse the hell out of me some time, they are casting to a western audience but use korean age.


he's 16 in Korean age, Tastosis were just straight up wrong

16 already? Well, then it's not that impressive.


Ok i looked, Life is 15 years old to everyone else but koreans xp

Life b-day 01-11-1997
♠ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ♠ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♠ (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ ♠
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3868
Well, that was a roflstomp. Life cannot be stopped from getting the title.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3869
On October 10 2012 21:31 DiMano wrote:
Guys I root for Life since this news and you can not even imagine how happy I am now, THaNK YOU LIFE FOR MAKING ME SO HAPPY!!!

I was pretty excited when Cutter joined Zenex, too
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3870
obligatory

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DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3871
On October 10 2012 21:25 neggro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:23 dezi wrote:
Please not another Mvp title t_t

Fixed


Thanks.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3872
Protoss tears ahaahaha they are like sugar to me.

Also Taeja flopped hard :{
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3873
Frankly, Life v MVP is the potential final I was the least hyped for (for me, in order, it was Rain - Taeja, Rain - Life, MVP - Taeja), yet I can't help but think it's going to be a cracker of a finals. Probably because the Ro4 (Ro8, even) was so good there could be no bad finals.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3874
On October 10 2012 21:15 LimitSEA wrote:
The second Startale "Royal Roader" to run into an Mvp brickwall.

And Life looking as dominant as Squirtle in s2 as well.


Gonna keep saying this until it sticks: MVP is The King who guards the Royal Road.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:34:02
October 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#3875
On October 10 2012 21:30 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 17:59 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Remember when people claimed PartinG was going to smash Mvp? PartinG had done much the same as Rain this season, crushing everyone in his path. Mvp is just a washed up shadow of his former self, with a wrist injury to boot, right?

Wrong. Even if Rain had crushed Mvp 20-0 in other tournaments, that doesn't mean a DAMN THING to Mvp right now. The GSL is Mvp's playground. Rain is trying to get a legitimate claim to best in the world, but he can't do that unless he beats Mvp on his home turf. You can talk about Rain's amazing run all you want, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE TIME people count Mvp out, he wins. GSL is Mvp's home turf, where he thrives in this EXACT kind of environment. Throw out your statistics all you want, but they don't mean a damn thing to Mvp.

If Mvp wins, Rain is another derailed hype train, just like so many before him. But if Rain wins, he will win this season of GSL and be on the road to immortality.

Rain couldn't get the job done. He had all the hype and momentum in the world behind him and he still couldn't beat Mvp. Mvp proves once again that he is the best.


It was a close 3-2 series.
It wasn't like one totally outclassed the another like the Life vs Taeja series.

MVP just got this fucking ability to win.
He got what we called: Game Genie Game sense.

Play your best
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:34:19
October 10 2012 12:33 GMT
#3876
damn LG-IM, 3 finals in a row, st 2/4 not bad
as1
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#3877
On October 10 2012 21:33 skyflyfish wrote:
damn LG-IM, 3 finals in a row, st 2/4 not bad


I didn't even think about this, good spot. Really showing the strength of IM and ST, clearly the top 2 ESF teams IMO.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
October 10 2012 12:35 GMT
#3878
On October 10 2012 21:30 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 17:59 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Remember when people claimed PartinG was going to smash Mvp? PartinG had done much the same as Rain this season, crushing everyone in his path. Mvp is just a washed up shadow of his former self, with a wrist injury to boot, right?

Wrong. Even if Rain had crushed Mvp 20-0 in other tournaments, that doesn't mean a DAMN THING to Mvp right now. The GSL is Mvp's playground. Rain is trying to get a legitimate claim to best in the world, but he can't do that unless he beats Mvp on his home turf. You can talk about Rain's amazing run all you want, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE TIME people count Mvp out, he wins. GSL is Mvp's home turf, where he thrives in this EXACT kind of environment. Throw out your statistics all you want, but they don't mean a damn thing to Mvp.

If Mvp wins, Rain is another derailed hype train, just like so many before him. But if Rain wins, he will win this season of GSL and be on the road to immortality.

Rain couldn't get the job done. He had all the hype and momentum in the world behind him and he still couldn't beat Mvp. Mvp proves once again that he is the best.


Wth. You make it sound like Rain just got outplayed. It was a close 3-2 series. Dont be bitter because your player lost horribly.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 10 2012 12:35 GMT
#3879
no double royal road well at least Mvp making his fifth will be something historical too.
The heart's eternal vow
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
October 10 2012 12:36 GMT
#3880
I wonder how Life's style of play would match up against MVP's bancanic (banshee Mech). We will find out soon enough!
Either way, this final is gonna be pretty EPIC for sure.
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