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Waxangel
United States33389 Posts
He is an elite PvP and PvT player with very shaky, perhaps even straight out bad PvZ. However Prime only has an average Zerg player themselves in B4, who happens to have his worst match-up in ZvP. Basically, they have no way to force First to play a "bad" match-up  | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 27 2012 12:35 Waxangel wrote: First really is a match-up nightmare for Prime. He is an elite PvP and PvT player with very shaky, perhaps even straight out bad PvZ. However Prime only has an average Zerg player themselves in B4, who happens to have his worst match-up in ZvP. Basically, they have no way to force First to play a "bad" match-up Funny thing is. His Korean TLPD actually shows that his best matchup is vZ and worse is vT. Of course, the number of games is very low so even 1 or 2 Bo3 will change the results drastically. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On September 27 2012 12:43 vthree wrote: Funny thing is. His Korean TLPD actually shows that his best matchup is vZ and worse is vT. Of course, the number of games is very low so even 1 or 2 Bo3 will change the results drastically. I wouldn't say he's terrible at PvZ, but I would say that it's his weakest matchup after watching his games versus a few zergs at MLG. The scary thing is I believe that YongHwa is one of the better PvZ players out there, he's got an arsenal of timings and really good late-game army control. So the two really complement each other. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On September 27 2012 13:08 Hall0wed wrote: Silly, First loses in RO48 of Code A but all-kills Prime. That amount of randomness is somewhat annoying. Code A is nothing but a nightmare of competition these days, gotta give him that much | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
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eleaf
526 Posts
On September 27 2012 13:08 Hall0wed wrote: Silly, First loses in RO48 of Code A but all-kills Prime. That amount of randomness is somewhat annoying. So we can understand how cruel GSL is. And that's why GSL champion is considered the most convincing champion. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On September 27 2012 15:32 snafoo wrote: It's funny how all of a sudden the IM protoss trifecta(Seed, Yonghwa and First) has become the most powerful part of IM when for such a long time IM's only performers were it's terran(MVP, Happy and Yoda somewhat) and zergs(Nestea and Losira). Players in a house of one race are typically a thing. Some other applications we've probably seen include: - IM Terran: MVP, Happy, Yoda - MVP Zerg: DRG, Sniper, Monster - oGs Terran: Nada, TOP, Supernova - Prime Terran: MKP, Byun, Maru - SlayerS Terran: MMA, Ryung, Taeja, Ganzi - ST Protoss: Squirtle, Parting, Ace - TSL Zerg: Symbol, Hyun, Shine, Revival There have probably been a lot more 'lines' through the couple of years of sc2. Makes a lot of sense, and sometimes we see it in small terms. Currently IM and ST appear to be the only teams with a devastatingly strong Protoss lineup. Maybe SlayerS though I'm worried for Puzzle =( | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On September 27 2012 15:53 bittman wrote: Players in a house of one race are typically a thing. Some other applications we've probably seen include: - IM Terran: MVP, Happy, Yoda - MVP Zerg: DRG, Sniper, Monster - oGs Terran: Nada, TOP, Supernova - Prime Terran: MKP, Byun, Maru - SlayerS Terran: MMA, Ryung, Taeja, Ganzi - ST Protoss: Squirtle, Parting, Ace - TSL Zerg: Symbol, Hyun, Shine, Revival There have probably been a lot more 'lines' through the couple of years of sc2. Makes a lot of sense, and sometimes we see it in small terms. Currently IM and ST appear to be the only teams with a devastatingly strong Protoss lineup. Maybe SlayerS though I'm worried for Puzzle =( I know, I wasn't specifically talking about a certain race doing well, but more that the IM protoss were for such a long time such a weak part of IM with 0 of them being in GSL. All of a sudden we've had Seed win Code S and multiple allkills and good performances in other tournaments from the other two. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
feels like they have about 6 players that can allkill any team | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On September 27 2012 15:53 bittman wrote: Players in a house of one race are typically a thing. Some other applications we've probably seen include: - IM Terran: MVP, Happy, Yoda - MVP Zerg: DRG, Sniper, Monster - oGs Terran: Nada, TOP, Supernova - Prime Terran: MKP, Byun, Maru - SlayerS Terran: MMA, Ryung, Taeja, Ganzi - ST Protoss: Squirtle, Parting, Ace - TSL Zerg: Symbol, Hyun, Shine, Revival There have probably been a lot more 'lines' through the couple of years of sc2. Makes a lot of sense, and sometimes we see it in small terms. Currently IM and ST appear to be the only teams with a devastatingly strong Protoss lineup. Maybe SlayerS though I'm worried for Puzzle =( Made me remember the original Prime trio: Polt, Maka and MarineKing. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On September 27 2012 22:59 antilyon wrote: Made me remember the original Prime trio: Polt, Maka and MarineKing. not that that got anywhere in team leagues, haha | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 27 2012 22:59 antilyon wrote: Made me remember the original Prime trio: Polt, Maka and MarineKing. And the best of them all, BbB | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On September 27 2012 23:00 opterown wrote: not that that got anywhere in team leagues, haha But what about the friendship? D= | ||
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