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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4901
HerO was to blame. He tried to cut corners when he doesn't need to. Why are people raging about this?
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4902
On September 24 2012 03:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 03:01 Pure-SC2 wrote:
On September 24 2012 02:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 24 2012 02:56 haegN wrote:
On September 24 2012 02:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I can't watch this anymore. Never tuned out of SC because of rage before but this is too much.
Screw this, screw zerg, Taeja wins this tournament.


3 Terrans in top 4 and you say screw zerg? -.-


Yes, screw zerg for making HerO all in and use stuff like this. Zerg is literally destroying the most beautiful thing there was about this game - HerO's PvZ.
I'm dead serious.


hero skimped on making a full wall or building a zealot. He cut that corner to get a build order advantage but Targa's build order countered it.

Stop fucking blaming balance.


I'm not blaming imbalance for his loss in this series, I'm blaming zerg because you can't beat them lategame so even the most macro and awesome to watch PvZ player in the world (HerO) has to rely on two base all ins to beat zergs FAR below his skill level.
Nothing was more beautiful about this game than watching HerO outmultitask his way to victory against even the best zergs in the world. Now he two base all ins vs people like Targa, like every other protoss in the world.

Well.


There is NOTHING that proves you can't beat zerg lategame as protoss, it's all in your head. Let me guess, you play protoss and HerO is your idol, and you start blaming whatever you can get ahold of when HerO loses? it's weak.


"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4903
On September 24 2012 03:19 dronescout wrote:
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On September 24 2012 03:19 brokeception wrote:
On September 24 2012 03:16 bakarin wrote:
Wow a lot of incontrol fans getting butthurt because someone said he's a bad player which is obviously true


incontrol isn't bad...every time i watch an incontrol interview, he says he is improving so no, he isn't a suck player.

you're just mad targa has to cheese to win while incontrol plays macro games. a cheesy gimicky player has no right to call another player bad.

1/10 step up your trolling


I chuckled at the saying hes improving part..gotta love incontrols pre tournie tweets!
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4904
I'm getting International 2 vibes here, not in terms of production quality, but just nerd-hype in general. I didn't think an SC2 tournament could match TI2 in excitement, other than GSL.

The weird and creepy videos, the EG curse timing, the InControl burn... damn DH you scary.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4905
On September 24 2012 03:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
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On September 24 2012 03:18 Waxangel wrote:
the best mirror by some stupid margin


Because it's the best race.

then blizzard should nerf it
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4906
TargA next bonjwa!!!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
September 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#4907
On September 24 2012 03:18 Waxangel wrote:
the best mirror by some stupid margin

I kinda like ZvZ too. At least bad ZvZs are over quickly. Bad TvTs are just tank slugfests that put you to sleep. However, a good TvT is a thing of beauty that ZvZ cannot hope to equal.
TheKwas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Iceland372 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4908
On September 24 2012 03:12 syllogism wrote:

A korean could definetly have given that answer to another korean in korea.

Sure, if it's a korean player who is familiar and likely in good terms with the other player. That would just be joking and trash talking. Details matter[/QUOTE]
FBH threw RICE at his opponents when he won. Seriously, the whole idea that ALL koreans are super manner is silly. Koreans, like other humans, all have different personalities. They might be more manner on average, but Targa's comment wouldn't be considered a real BM move (Koreans are even more blunt than foreigners when talking about who is "good" or "bad").

I can't remember which progamer was it in early SC2, but his nickname among other Korean pros was "kaesaki Terran", liberally translated to "dog-fucker Terran" because of his bad manner.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 18:21:27
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4909
I missed it.. what did Targa say to piss everyone off? Or perhaps Incontrol? I don't know what people are talking about anymore.
Refer to my post.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4910
The drinking game could be based on the LR. Every time there is a balance whine, take a sip. Every time people regurgitate an argument they heard a second before from a caster, take a sip. Every ban, take a shot.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4911
On September 24 2012 03:19 brokeception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 03:16 bakarin wrote:
Wow a lot of incontrol fans getting butthurt because someone said he's a bad player which is obviously true


incontrol isn't bad...every time i watch an incontrol interview, he says he is improving so no, he isn't a suck player.

you're just mad targa has to cheese to win while incontrol plays macro games. a cheesy gimicky player has no right to call another player bad.


Hero only won with a cannon rush. Then he tried to 5 gate cheese... Then he lost to a 4base zerg, and then he lost to a timing attack that he made himself susceptible to. Hero was the cheeser, not Targa.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4912
On September 24 2012 03:10 Oboeman wrote:
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On September 24 2012 03:07 jnd wrote:
On September 24 2012 03:04 Erik.TheRed wrote:
On September 24 2012 03:00 Ksquared wrote:
Oh Targa gets lucky two games and its considered skill.


I don't think anyone thinks Targa is more skilled than HerO...

So Starcraft is game of luck, not game of skill? That's some bad news right there.


or maybe hero is a player of luck and targa found some holes.

Next time, hero should come back with a tighter, more solid game, especially when playing against inferior opponents when he should not NEED to cut any corners.





Both PvP and PvZ are "cutting corners" match ups for P. In both, if you don't, you can easily get beaten by an inferior opponent. That is one of the many of the Sc2 design flaws.
Chicken gank op
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4913
Reis, probably the most successfull aka in foreign tournament history :o
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4914
On September 24 2012 03:20 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 03:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On September 24 2012 03:18 Waxangel wrote:
the best mirror by some stupid margin


Because it's the best race.

then blizzard should nerf it


Best as in best designed. And most noble. The other two races are for peasants.
MMA: The true King of Wings
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4915
On September 24 2012 03:21 Heartland wrote:
The drinking game could be based on the LR. Every time there is a balance whine, take a sip. Every time people regurgitate an argument they heard a second before from a caster, take a sip. Every ban, take a shot.


Do NOT include "awkward"!!!!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4916
On September 24 2012 03:21 Vira wrote:
Reis, probably the most successfull aka in foreign tournament history :o

FXO.Timber is better
Glorious SEA doto
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#4917
Still using Reis' account for the semi-finals, haha.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
September 23 2012 18:22 GMT
#4918
On September 24 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 03:21 Heartland wrote:
The drinking game could be based on the LR. Every time there is a balance whine, take a sip. Every time people regurgitate an argument they heard a second before from a caster, take a sip. Every ban, take a shot.


Do NOT include "awkward"!!!!


Yeah, that'd be awkwar... OH WAIT!
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
September 23 2012 18:22 GMT
#4919
On September 24 2012 03:21 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 03:19 brokeception wrote:
On September 24 2012 03:16 bakarin wrote:
Wow a lot of incontrol fans getting butthurt because someone said he's a bad player which is obviously true


incontrol isn't bad...every time i watch an incontrol interview, he says he is improving so no, he isn't a suck player.

you're just mad targa has to cheese to win while incontrol plays macro games. a cheesy gimicky player has no right to call another player bad.


Hero only won with a cannon rush. Then he tried to 5 gate cheese... Then he lost to a 4base zerg, and then he lost to a timing attack that he made himself susceptible to. Hero was the cheeser, not Targa.


What do you expect. It's GSL level of play.
roguez
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand71 Posts
September 23 2012 18:22 GMT
#4920
It sucks that his achievement is being overshadowed by this.

He was put in a tough position with that question, which was a pretty strange thing to be asked. Most people have no experience in responding to something like that in front of thousands of people after such a huge game.

People have said a hell of a lot worse, in worse times and not being chastised for it like this. I hope that peoples support for him has not been diminished because of this drama, that would be really sad considering how well he is doing.
<3 # Clan: Terror Australis # Team: Archaic MSi eSports# @Rogue_SC2 # <3
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