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Oriana
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation12 Posts
September 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#6881
Great production indeed. Thank you Dreamhack and Blizzard. Free HD stream is nice as well.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
September 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#6882
On September 17 2012 07:01 Leru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:59 Vaftrudner wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:51 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm a big fan of Stephano and I rooted for him, but I'll be honest it's a bit lame when he says he that all the tournament means for him is the money lol. Hopefully EG talks to him about how often he says that. Would be much easier to get behind him if he showed some passion for the game. It seems like he doesn't care much about competing :/.

So he plays for the money, he's cocky and not very passionate. Who cares? He's still a genius. He outplays people who practice twice as hard, he powers through marathon tournament after marathon tournament, he's constantly analysed and discussed but still people can't take him down. That's why I love him. He's so damn good at this game. I honestly don't care whether or not he's good or bad for esports, good or bad at PR, how he brands himself, where he vomits, all that bullshit. He's a magician when it comes to actually playing the game.


I think if eSports will ever be something like normal sports players should learn something about sportmanship , winning and earning $ shouldn't give you the right to be arrogant and act like a mercenary.


Football is a huge sport but most players are cocky and rich as hell.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
September 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#6883
On September 17 2012 07:02 TheDougler wrote:
I missed the fratricide, how was it? (Lucifron vs Vortix)

One sided as hell, wasnt one of the better series today.
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 22:06:45
September 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#6884
About WCS World, I guess, at least for the show, that Blizzard should invite Mvp.
I think if eSports will ever be something like normal sports players should learn something about sportmanship , winning and earning $ shouldn't give you the right to be arrogant and act like a mercenary

Well in other sports it's done but offstage, at least e-sport is not that hypocritical.
And I think you misunderstood Stephano, he is acting, just to draw attention, sometimes you see he were acting like at the end when he was overwhelmed by emotion.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#6885
WCS World is going to be European Zerg vs. Korean Protoss, and a few other match ups on the sides.
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
September 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#6886
European Starcraft is the best because you have that smoothness of production, added with comedy and good humor, a international flavor but still people acknowledge the existence of English, great crowds that know what they're doing and all of that and you still get good solid entertaining games unlike USA. Throw in some Gangnam style and its like Koreans are there in spirit heh.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6887
Thx you Blizzard and Dreamhack for creating the best tournament I ever watched!

The event was simply amazing
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1188 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6888
Awesome tournament, great job by Dreamhack. Really amazing production value.
Mutation complete.
jeeeKyy
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic65 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6889
didnt he say its an honour to represent europe or something like that ?
"I am fine, I am just not happy." Dr.House
Asza
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark45 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6890
Thanks for a great tournament and great production. 10/10
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 22:04:47
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6891
On September 17 2012 07:01 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:59 Satyric wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:54 mordk wrote:
Damnit I missed the award thing, how awkward was it?


Depends on how socially handicapped you are. Everyone just keeps on spamming that everything is so awkward, while I think it's funny. I don't get it. Crowd dancing to gangnam style "OMG SO AWKWARD xDDDD", they are just having fun...


To be fair, a bunch of nerds dancing in a room with 15:1 male to female ratio is fairly awkward.

So it's awkward when a mens team win a champonship and celebrate afterwards?
Good brain.
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6892
On September 17 2012 07:02 Ursad0n wrote:
Lol I love watching how awkward the ceremonies are! So many nerds gathered in one place that spend so much time practicing that they have no interpersonal skills, that's something that, if changed, could really make eSports more presentable to the public


sry, but the one that is awkward is you oO
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6893
On September 17 2012 07:03 Azarkon wrote:
WCS World is going to be European Zerg vs. Korean Protoss, and a few other match ups on the sides.

NA terrans shall save us from the aliens.
Glorious SEA doto
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 22:04:42
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6894
On September 17 2012 07:01 Leru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:59 Vaftrudner wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:51 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm a big fan of Stephano and I rooted for him, but I'll be honest it's a bit lame when he says he that all the tournament means for him is the money lol. Hopefully EG talks to him about how often he says that. Would be much easier to get behind him if he showed some passion for the game. It seems like he doesn't care much about competing :/.

So he plays for the money, he's cocky and not very passionate. Who cares? He's still a genius. He outplays people who practice twice as hard, he powers through marathon tournament after marathon tournament, he's constantly analysed and discussed but still people can't take him down. That's why I love him. He's so damn good at this game. I honestly don't care whether or not he's good or bad for esports, good or bad at PR, how he brands himself, where he vomits, all that bullshit. He's a magician when it comes to actually playing the game.


I think if eSports will ever be something like normal sports players should learn something about sportmanship , winning and earning $ shouldn't give you the right to be arrogant and act like a mercenary.


let the man be himself...it's not like he's throwing chairs or giving him the finger or something

yall are wayy too uptight sometimes and just need to let loose and relax...it's all for fun and giggles

gives character/color to this scene
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6895
On September 17 2012 07:01 Leru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:59 Vaftrudner wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:51 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm a big fan of Stephano and I rooted for him, but I'll be honest it's a bit lame when he says he that all the tournament means for him is the money lol. Hopefully EG talks to him about how often he says that. Would be much easier to get behind him if he showed some passion for the game. It seems like he doesn't care much about competing :/.

So he plays for the money, he's cocky and not very passionate. Who cares? He's still a genius. He outplays people who practice twice as hard, he powers through marathon tournament after marathon tournament, he's constantly analysed and discussed but still people can't take him down. That's why I love him. He's so damn good at this game. I honestly don't care whether or not he's good or bad for esports, good or bad at PR, how he brands himself, where he vomits, all that bullshit. He's a magician when it comes to actually playing the game.


I think if eSports will ever be something like normal sports players should learn something about sportmanship , winning and earning $ shouldn't give you the right to be arrogant and act like a mercenary.


I dont know how it is in Romania but in the US all championships are arrogant. Ever heard of Kobe Bryant?
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6896
On September 17 2012 07:01 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:01 simmeh wrote:
next up wcs asia continental finals

the lack of korean terrans in it makes me sad

kind of crazy that the biggest sc2 tournament of all time (Wcs world finals) is not going to have a single korean terran o_O

I hope you love PvP.


It'll most likely have a total of four terrans period unless Redarchon or Infi somehow defy all odds and pull off a miracle.

If there's a single terran in the RO16 I'll be happy.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25497 Posts
September 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#6897
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote:
Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it.
The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.

All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).

Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.

Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.

Stop using the word hater, should be fucking banned. Not you in particular but just because people aren't sucking somebody's dick doesn't mean they're being a 'hater'. God worst term to crop up in common discourse in my living memory!

I view Stephano as a Michael Schumacher kind of figure, everyone will respect their ability as you simply have to. Not everybody will love the guy. You say 'he has personality deal with it', perhaps he has a personality other people don't like!

Grubby and Stephano both have personalities, but they're entirely different personalities that will attract different folks
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#6898
On September 17 2012 07:04 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:01 Fusilero wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:01 simmeh wrote:
next up wcs asia continental finals

the lack of korean terrans in it makes me sad

kind of crazy that the biggest sc2 tournament of all time (Wcs world finals) is not going to have a single korean terran o_O

I hope you love PvP.


It'll most likely have a total of four terrans period unless Redarchon or Infi somehow defy all odds and pull off a miracle.

If there's a single terran in the RO16 I'll be happy.

Have faith in infi, he tower rushed everyone in WC3 watch him bunker rush to WCS victory.
Glorious SEA doto
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
September 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#6899
On September 17 2012 07:02 Ursad0n wrote:
Lol I love watching how awkward the ceremonies are! So many nerds gathered in one place that spend so much time practicing that they have no interpersonal skills, that's something that, if changed, could really make eSports more presentable to the public


You do know that calling the ceremonies awkward and regular people who enjoy something fun "nerds" you're not exactly helping either?

These people do have interpersonal skills. Gaming is still under a heavy stigma with the general public which is why it takes a while to catch on.
I'm guessing once the new generation hits adulthood, it'll be the biggest form of entertainment out there.
zephiK
Profile Joined March 2012
United States372 Posts
September 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#6900
Amazing production and quality. Observing was a huge++ as well although it was a European event, it was quite good in terms of timing too! I was able to wake up early in the morning and was able to watch everything.

Huge thanks to the free 720p stream too
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