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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
August 29 2012 11:17 GMT
#1001
so sad for mkp. Let's see if mvp will also crack under pressure.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1002
On August 29 2012 20:17 klops wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:14 Clazziquai10 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:10 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


Every professional terran disagrees with you.


Even Goody?


you know goody learned bio for TvP right?


he beat me on playhem with maka rax while I was going nexus first
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1003
Lets go Mvp!!
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1004
And audio problems again?
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1005
On August 29 2012 20:16 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:14 Clazziquai10 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:10 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


Every professional terran disagrees with you.


Even Goody?

Even Goody gave up using mech vs. P. The only pro I've seen using it recently is Hack and his mech doesn't work against a half decent toss player because it relies on hellions destroying the economy early game.

When has hack used it recently?
Everyone keep talking about it but the only game I've seen was in TSL qualifier where he lost.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1006
On August 29 2012 20:17 torm3ntin wrote:
so sad for mkp. Let's see if mvp will also crack under pressure.

The man stared god in the face and didn't crack he'll be fine.
Glorious SEA doto
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1007
On August 29 2012 20:17 torm3ntin wrote:
so sad for mkp. Let's see if mvp will also crack under pressure.


if mvp loses it's not gonna be because he cracked under the pressure, he's been in five gsl finals and won 4 of them.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1008
On August 29 2012 20:12 graNite wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:09 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 morlakaix wrote:
im a protoss player and honestly I have no idea how MKP lost this


To combat the protoss death ball you spread and arc. MKP kept running into a position where it was impossible to do that. If you try and kite a ball of units against storm, chargelots and colossus you're just gonna fucking die.


Marineking lost because he did not harass enough in the midgame and lost 5-6 ghosts for free.
He was maxed and didn't attack.

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On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


No. Chargelot Immortal beats every mech composition.


problem is everyone thinks going mech means fully going mech. I still think adding in a few Blue flame helions to a toss going heavy on zealots and a few tanks to the bio army going into the end game, where you can sack SCV's and add army supply is a good idea. Staying MMM with vikings even with ghosts just cannot kill a full pro level protoss army.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1009
On August 29 2012 20:16 Tipany wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:11 Frankon wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 sharkie wrote:
ESF players crumbling hard against the pressure.

This is the difference between pro and amateurs.

True. Still i prefere humans (ESF) to machines (KESPA).

Every time they showed players you could see how much emotionally MKP was ingame.

That's because he's a girl.


HAHAHAH THUMBS UP!
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
M.R. McThundercrotch
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1010
On August 29 2012 20:14 Fenrax wrote:
btw: excellent solo cast by moletrap


Yeah, I am one of the guys who couldn't stand Moletrap before, but aside from very few awkward points, I think he is doing great.
On June 30 2012 01:42 iNcontroL wrote: Fuck a lot of you. Fuck you forever.
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
August 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#1011
On August 29 2012 20:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:11 imMUTAble787 wrote:
i want one of those sk telecom jackets


they are for sale ATM.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357097



oh man banks are closed where im at tomorrow cause of isaac and i dunno if ill be able to get one before the end of august ;_;


fmllllllllllllll
*eternalenvy fanboy*
Atheist
Profile Joined December 2011
186 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1012
Tha was sick BroodWaresque execution by Sun
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12047 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1013
On August 29 2012 20:16 graNite wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:13 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:12 graNite wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


No. Chargelot Immortal beats every mech composition.


ghosts are pretty good man


Do you really think you know more about the game than all the terran pros? If it was possible to play mech in TvP, they would do it.


Remember when people said mech wasn't viable against a good zerg 2 years ago? Check now.

It can work, they're just not willing to try. There's Kespa players in proleague going Tank Hellion against Toss and making it work. That's also what I do on ladder and admittedly there's a skill discrepency but if you push properly and prepare for an air switch it's perfectly viable.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1014
On August 29 2012 20:17 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
i dont like how tvp is centred around either landing the emps or not. its waay too flimsy to have a entire outcome be based off whether emps land or not.


I really do think this engagement they're showing here was the major problem. His ghosts were almost worthless here, he just walked them right into the army, got stormed hardcore, and then... boom.

MKP's Ghost control, or lack thereof, was what got him killed.
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1015
oh god those vikings clumped soooooo much for the archon splash...they got demolished
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1016
Professional analysis of how MKP fked up.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1017
On August 29 2012 20:14 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:10 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


Every professional terran disagrees with you.


Even Goody?

Yes even Goody, he's been using Bio mainly for like half a year now in TvP. There hasn't been a way figured out yet to play mech in TvP (beyond soem rare cheeses that is).
Get off my lawn, young punks
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1018
On August 29 2012 20:17 Yello wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:12 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:11 kyllinghest wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
this is fucking ridiculous. couple storms and he overcomes a huge deficit.

Thats PvT on big maps for you right there. Was MarineKings fault really, he should have just mega all-inned when he was ahead.


If we accept this as true, then this is bad design of a game, where when you are ahead you have to all in as the clock ticks to your death


Yes, it is bad design. But this is how the game currently is. There was even this one interview with Blizzard, where they said that Terran was stronger in the early-mid stages of the game and have to finish it there or get a huge advantage. Or in other words: Blizzard said that Terrans need to do allin...


No there wasn't. They just said that if both players lean back, Protoss can get an advantage, but Terran has enough tools early on to keep the game even.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1019
On August 29 2012 20:16 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:15 Evangelist wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:12 graNite wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 morlakaix wrote:
im a protoss player and honestly I have no idea how MKP lost this


To combat the protoss death ball you spread and arc. MKP kept running into a position where it was impossible to do that. If you try and kite a ball of units against storm, chargelots and colossus you're just gonna fucking die.


Marineking lost because he did not harass enough in the midgame and lost 5-6 ghosts for free.
He was maxed and didn't attack.

On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


No. Chargelot Immortal beats every mech composition.


You serious? Proper TvP mech is banshee hellion thor into seige tank battlecruiser ghost raven. I don't see chargelot immortal holding either of those.


I just burst out laughing at your composition haha

so is this a NR20 minute game with 20+ bases on the map?


Er no. It's a standard Daybreak TvP against a toss that just sits back and builds up a deathball. Banshee hellion is the standard TvZ mech opener which is actually really effective against protoss too and a 20 minute battlecruiser transition is not hard to do.

Can do it off three bases without much difficulty. Maybe 4, plus a few planetaries. Doesn't work at pro level, true, but then most pros are better at controlling bio than I am. Perfectly fine up to masters.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#1020
On August 29 2012 20:14 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:10 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


Every professional terran disagrees with you.


Even Goody?

Especially Goody. Even the Panzer General goes bio.
This is our town, scrub
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