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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 17 2012 03:33 GMT
#41
Binski snipes the fifth of Suppy, but at the cost of losing all his tanks and the majority of his Marines, still with no fourth of his own. Suppy closes-out the game soon after. 2-0 Suppy, GG!

IdrA vs KawaiiRice up next!
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3085 Posts
August 17 2012 03:34 GMT
#42
this guy is literally yelling into his microhpone half the time.

headset = problem solved
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:41:00
August 17 2012 03:40 GMT
#43
baneling speed before zergling speed for idra

i dont think ive ever seen that before XD
byah!
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
August 17 2012 03:40 GMT
#44
Banespeed before Lingspeed, good job Idra! Nice creep spread save.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 17 2012 03:41 GMT
#45
LOL, thankfully IdrA caught it before Kawaii decided to move-out, so we still have a good game on our hands.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 17 2012 03:43 GMT
#46
KR tank count: 0 so good trades all in all
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
August 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#47
hahahahaha no gg
jacksonlee
Profile Joined October 2010
175 Posts
August 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#48
idra has been on a tilt since 2011, and never, ever got out of it, it's sad
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#49
KawaiiRice-brand Top Splits NA(TM), brought to you by LighT-corp. Great mechanical play by Kawaii allows his brave men to move forward on to a sea of creep, take loses, but persevere, continuing on to IdrA's front door and forcing a GG.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
August 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#50
damn. well played kawaii, nice macro/production

always had a high supply count
byah!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#51
sloppy play by idra -_- if he had some ultras he would have broken KR's push... instead he got the chance to get both infestor upgrades simultaenously -_-
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#52
Well at least Idra injects some drama into the stale TvZ there...
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ApoNow
Profile Joined May 2010
Luxembourg100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:02:38
August 17 2012 03:59 GMT
#53
On August 17 2012 12:46 jacksonlee wrote:
idra has been on a tilt since 2011, and never, ever got out of it, it's sad

I wouldn't even call it being on a tilt to be honest. He just never learned to embrace the idea of micro and how to engage battles being very important components of successful play. He thinks outmacroing his opponent is enough to best everyone, which was true a year and a half ago but nowadays most players have adapted to the different playstyle SCII requires in contrast to BW. If you see players like Stephano and TaeJa, you'll notice that their macro is not even the best in the world, however their engagements, meaning positioning before a battle and microing in the battle is just an art in itself. The better user interface (which means there's less macroing to do) means there's more potential attention left for the actual battles. Other players have caught up on that fact and put FAR more emphasis on engagements, if Idra doesn't begin to care for putting mor emphasis on proper army engagements, he will be left in the dust. I'm not saying that this game was an obvious example for that fact, but rather that that's his underlying problem which keeps him from becoming a better player. Still, his engagements were not THAT bad but he could've gotten more out of his army value.

He just wants to ride on his macro-wave straight to the win. Nope, not gonna happen. Not anymore. Not in 2012.

Edit: I'm not saying that's his only problem, nor do I say his engagements are generally bad. He tilts pretty hard sometimes and his engagements often are pretty good. Still, to me he seems to have the mindset that as far as he's macroing better, he should win, which simply is false.
A Tiamat tour is like Space Mountain in Disneyland… A roller coaster in the dark
ApoNow
Profile Joined May 2010
Luxembourg100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:04:41
August 17 2012 04:02 GMT
#54
On August 17 2012 12:46 jacksonlee wrote:
idra has been on a tilt since 2011, and never, ever got out of it, it's sad

I wouldn't even call it being on a tilt to be honest. He just never learned to embrace the idea of micro and how to engage battles being very important components of successful play. He thinks outmacroing his opponent is enough to best everyone, which was true a year and a half ago but nowadays most players have adapted to the different playstyle SCII requires in contrast to BW. If you see players like Stephano and TaeJa, you'll notice that their macro is not even the best in the world, however their engagements, meaning positioning before a battle and microing in the battle is just an art in itself. The better user interface (which means there's less macroing to do) means there's more potential attention left for the actual battles. Other players have caught up on that fact and put FAR more emphasis on engagements, if Idra doesn't begin to care for putting mor emphasis on proper army engagements, he will be left in the dust. I'm not saying that this game was an obvious example for that fact, but rather that that's his underlying problem which keeps him from becoming a better player. Still, his engagements were not THAT bad but he could've gotten more out of his army value.

He just wants to ride on his macro-wave straight to the win. Nope, not gonna happen. Not anymore. Not in 2012.

Edit: I'm not saying that's his only problem, nor do I say his engagements are generally bad. He tilts pretty hard sometimes and his engagements often are pretty good. Still, to me he seems to have the mindset that as far as he's macroing better, he should win, which simply is wrong.
A Tiamat tour is like Space Mountain in Disneyland… A roller coaster in the dark
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 17 2012 04:09 GMT
#55
Game three ends in a doom-drop by KawaiiRice in response to a scary Blood Lord-Infestor army with a lot of lings and Banelings taking-out his fourth. Nearly the entire main of IdrA is taken-out, but Kawaii can't defend at home and IdrA pushes up in to the natural. IdrA takes the game, tying the series up 1-1.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
August 17 2012 04:18 GMT
#56
Zoia, if you're reading this, you need to work on your camera movement

Casting is good, but camera is too frisky.
Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
August 17 2012 04:25 GMT
#57
idra is just meh. didnt see after couple of months, just wanna check if there are improvements, but nope-_-
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 17 2012 04:33 GMT
#58
odd people want to be so down about each match idra loses.. guess what? Series was actually really good.. Kawaii and IdrA put on a show in that last game and it was fucking good. No need to psycho analyze each player and over analyze their lives.. we are at a stage where good players can beat each other. Nice job by kawaii!
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:35:33
August 17 2012 04:35 GMT
#59
Bye Idra!

Thanks for the BM ya joke XD
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 17 2012 04:36 GMT
#60
On August 17 2012 13:33 iNcontroL wrote:
odd people want to be so down about each match idra loses.. guess what? Series was actually really good.. Kawaii and IdrA put on a show in that last game and it was fucking good. No need to psycho analyze each player and over analyze their lives.. we are at a stage where good players can beat each other. Nice job by kawaii!

gosh you spoilt the game by like 30 seconds >
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