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[QUOTE]On August 14 2012 20:20 i.of.the.storm wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 14 2012 20:14 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 14 2012 20:12 silent_owl wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Well, we will all see a lot more ZvZ's. With Kespa players winning.
Well, I've seen Kespa players win ZvZ's before. Hyun, NesTea....oh wait, those were former Kespa players.
Seriously, I don't know why people are so enamored with labeling players and taking up factions/sides.
I'm personally rooting for Jaedong![/QUOTE]
The difference is that Hyun, Nestea, MVP, MC is that they are/were not practicing with players that were 2012 Kespa caliber.
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On August 14 2012 20:18 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:15 Asha` wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl. Yup, it's like when people release replay packs of them taking the occasional game off named pros on ladder and people take that to mean they are actually close to being competitive with them and should get a big tournament invite. lmfaaaaoooo ripppeeeddddd omg i love you asha
ROFL
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On August 14 2012 20:21 Porcelina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:21 Infernal Knight wrote:
I really just wish there could be supporting of the players without the asinine flame-baiting. Amen.
no way. that's what makes these threads glorious.
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On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl.
Thx for the info, lastshadow, care to post some details on that? While being a bw fan myself I find it hard to believe they're 'raping faces' already. Gruesome metaphor aside, it does sound interesting.
Glad to see LJD win though, whatever the direction this tournament is going. JD for sc2 metagame bonjwa! -^
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On August 14 2012 20:19 wurm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:15 ThePlayer33 wrote:
i just noticed there is a HEAP of Kespa players supports in this thread. looks like the BW fans are starting to dominate the scene Well, Jaedong was playing. That alone got me to watch SC2 again after ~1 year or so.
I've allways watched Sc2 from BW when it came, But whenever either flash or jaedong plays. (which got me interested in BW) I'll watch no matter what the consequence 
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yeah my statement is poorly written and aggressive, but to the people saying that my comment is hypocritical because I say it after "they win a meaningless bo3" no, you forget I live in Korea, I've been seeing Kespa > GSL for 2months and I personally have observer'd games etc. I also talk to the koreans that I'm friends with quite frequently.
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On August 14 2012 20:21 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:20 Wintex wrote:On August 14 2012 20:16 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:15 Asha` wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl. Yup, it's like when people release replay packs of them taking the occasional game off named pros on ladder and people take that to mean they are actually close to being competitive with them and should get a big tournament invite. Or it's like when Kespa players win a few meaningless bo3's in WCS a few times and they're somehow amazing. Wait.. Yeah. I can't wait till KeSPA players go up against Mvp and Oz etc in OSL/GSL. People judge too quickly. Preparation is where you see the player really snap necks. At first it was they can't beat GSL players. Then it's they can't beat Code S players. Now it's MVP and OZ. I bet you MVP and OZ are going to lose soon too.
Dude, I know they can beat people. I want to see how well they can read an opponent and adapt.
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On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0
Oh you.
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On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0
I'd say you've earned some ridicule when you make an inflammatory post complaining about flaming
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On August 14 2012 20:20 i.of.the.storm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:14 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:12 silent_owl wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. Well, we will all see a lot more ZvZ's. With Kespa players winning. Well, I've seen Kespa players win ZvZ's before. Hyun, NesTea....oh wait, those were former Kespa players. Seriously, I don't know why people are so enamored with labeling players and taking up factions/sides. I'm personally rooting for Jaedong! I agree completely. I mean, I tend to root for the current KeSPA players simply because I've been watching them play longer, but putting people into artificial boxes as a whole is silly. I think most lower to mid level KeSPA players will simply have to retire, but the S class players will always be good in any RTS because they're just a cut above in terms of raw talent and amount of practice. But it's not like all the KeSPA B-teamers are going to come wreck GSL or something.
Well I wouldn't even say, all top BW players will establish themselves at the top. But there will be definately some BW players getting there (some unknowns and some stars), while some longterm SC2 players will fall of while others will remain their spots. I have no fear for the current very top SC2 players like Squirtle, Marineking, aLive, MC, Seed, etc... but the "borderline Code S" players might drop off a bit...
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On August 14 2012 20:21 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0 he deserves little better tbh, that statement was poorly written
Do people like lastshadow? O_O
On topic, KESPA HWAITING!!! Make it 3/3 babyyy
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On August 14 2012 20:22 AgentChaos wrote:
kespa players seem to have more fan girls, have to admit they are a better looking than gom apart from effort T____T
You obviously havent seen gumiho or leenock.
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Yugioh just going for double expo now, doesnt attempt any harassment. HerOs expo on the way as well. Looking to develop into a standard ZvP
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On August 14 2012 20:22 AgentChaos wrote:
kespa players seem to have more fan girls, have to admit they are a better looking than gom apart from effort T____T
Hero and MKP beg to differ :o
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On August 14 2012 20:21 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:20 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 14 2012 20:14 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:12 silent_owl wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. Well, we will all see a lot more ZvZ's. With Kespa players winning. Well, I've seen Kespa players win ZvZ's before. Hyun, NesTea....oh wait, those were former Kespa players. Seriously, I don't know why people are so enamored with labeling players and taking up factions/sides. I'm personally rooting for Jaedong! I agree completely. I mean, I tend to root for the current KeSPA players simply because I've been watching them play longer, but putting people into artificial boxes as a whole is silly. I think most lower to mid level KeSPA players will simply have to retire, but the S class players will always be good in any RTS because they're just a cut above in terms of raw talent and amount of practice. But it's not like all the KeSPA B-teamers are going to come wreck GSL or something. Finally, a sensible post! Kudos!
OMG somebody with common sense. That even tops my excitment for the last game.
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So, DRG falls victim in the latest of top GSL zerg victims list i.e. Nestea, symbol and leenock.. That doesn't bode too well.
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Double expand for YuGiOh. Interesting build.
Man, lastshadow is posting in favor of practice? I love these Kespa players but using practice as an example? What? Really?
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On August 14 2012 20:19 silent_owl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:15 Dodgin wrote:
as someone who has followed both scenes I think taking sides on " kespa vs gom " is retarded, just pick players you like and root for them no matter where they come from. I think so too. Just so happens the players I want to win today are all from Kespa. Lol. IMSeed versus JD. Man, that would be difficult for my heart.-_-
I know that feeling all too well, this transition is both exciting and frustrating in so many ways for me and LR threads are rediculous now.
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On August 14 2012 20:22 AgniKai wrote:
Let's see how good the fake HerO is
Ftfy.
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On August 14 2012 20:21 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:20 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 IshinShishi wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. I've watched the GSL since open season 3, I'm sure that's true. I've seen DRG completely dominate ZvZ with excellent micro in games. Just because he lost today doesn't make it seem like "zomg, Kespa players doing something that's never been done before!" Which isn't true, cause it's been done before. On that note, damn is DRG doing terribly this past month. It makes it "zomg" because effort has played the game for 3 months while concurrently practicing brood war. That is why it is a big deal. And what I find funny about all of this is, Kespa teams are bringing in former GSL players/coaches to coach them so it accelerates the process. But no one even mentions that. It's done wonders for Jaedong's game though. I want him to go far. And er...has it been three months? I'm almost certain that the kespa players have been practising sc2 for way longer than that.
It's been a bit more than three months. Not much more by any means. They didn't even have computers capable of running SC2 a while back. Moreover, it's funny that you're certain despite no evidence. They have stated they started practising very recently, do you think they are lying? Especially when BW's future wasn't decided very long time ago.
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