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On August 14 2012 20:20 whirlpool wrote:
at least this elephant vs bear (gom) thing makes this LR so much alive, i love it
Yea people complain about this thread and the arguing... buttt the LR threads are going damn fast compared to other days!
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Game 3 DRG vs Effort was simply skill vs skill. No build order win, no cheese, no nothing. And effort overwhelmed DRG as his micro gave him tiny leads that eventually made it big enough for the finish. What a game, haven't been on the edge of my seat in a long time.
Thought it was the finals!
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On August 14 2012 20:20 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 IshinShishi wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. I've watched the GSL since open season 3, I'm sure that's true. I've seen DRG completely dominate ZvZ with excellent micro in games. Just because he lost today doesn't make it seem like "zomg, Kespa players doing something that's never been done before!" Which isn't true, cause it's been done before. On that note, damn is DRG doing terribly this past month. It makes it "zomg" because effort has played the game for 3 months while concurrently practicing brood war. That is why it is a big deal. And what I find funny about all of this is, Kespa teams are bringing in former GSL players/coaches to coach them so it accelerates the process. But no one even mentions that. It's done wonders for Jaedong's game though. I want him to go far.
And er...has it been three months? I'm almost certain that the kespa players have been practising sc2 for way longer than that.
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It's like a decade since I last watched a game on Shakuras 
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On August 14 2012 20:20 i.of.the.storm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:14 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:12 silent_owl wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. Well, we will all see a lot more ZvZ's. With Kespa players winning. Well, I've seen Kespa players win ZvZ's before. Hyun, NesTea....oh wait, those were former Kespa players. Seriously, I don't know why people are so enamored with labeling players and taking up factions/sides. I'm personally rooting for Jaedong! I agree completely. I mean, I tend to root for the current KeSPA players simply because I've been watching them play longer, but putting people into artificial boxes as a whole is silly. I think most lower to mid level KeSPA players will simply have to retire, but the S class players will always be good in any RTS because they're just a cut above in terms of raw talent and amount of practice. But it's not like all the KeSPA B-teamers are going to come wreck GSL or something.
Finally, a sensible post! Kudos!
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On August 14 2012 20:21 Infernal Knight wrote:
I really just wish there could be supporting of the players without the asinine flame-baiting.
Amen.
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kespa players seem to have more fan girls, have to admit they are a better looking than gom apart from effort T____T
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On August 14 2012 20:20 whirlpool wrote:
at least this elephant vs bear (gom) thing makes this LR so much alive, i love it
yes, alive like a justin bieber concert
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On August 14 2012 20:21 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:20 Wintex wrote:On August 14 2012 20:16 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:15 Asha` wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl. Yup, it's like when people release replay packs of them taking the occasional game off named pros on ladder and people take that to mean they are actually close to being competitive with them and should get a big tournament invite. Or it's like when Kespa players win a few meaningless bo3's in WCS a few times and they're somehow amazing. Wait.. Yeah. I can't wait till KeSPA players go up against Mvp and Oz etc in OSL/GSL. People judge too quickly. Preparation is where you see the player really snap necks. At first it was they can't beat GSL players. Then it's they can't beat Code S players. Now it's MVP and OZ. I bet you MVP and OZ are going to lose soon too.
you can be quiet too thanks
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On August 14 2012 20:19 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:14 RHoudini wrote:On August 14 2012 20:11 EscPlan9 wrote:
Effort was so underappreciated during SC1. You must be kidding, Effort has always been considered one of the top zergs. I actually didn't like Effort much until after his retirement because I saw him as a threat to Jaedong and considered him just a streaky player. His skills are unbelieable and he will soon be one of the best, if not the best, zerg on the planet.
Funny Effort didn't retire....
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Gonna have to root for Kespa players if they keep bringing in fan girls though, real talk
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Let's see how good the true HerO is
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HerO vs Yugioh now! I like HerO's chances
Yugioh starts first game with 10 pool but HerO scouts immediately, is going FFE
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On August 14 2012 20:19 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:17 Dosey wrote:
Noooo I missed Effort!
How'd his games look? The second game was Effort being thoroughly out-thought by DRG. The third was Effort thoroughly out-microing DRG in a ling/bane war
Well it was kinda even on micro but he out-endured the ling/bane war. You know, keeping his cool. DRG started making micro mistakes after 10 min of chaos while Effort's biggest mistake was losing 4 lings to a bane. And then he finished it up by a lovely roach attack to the front to bait defenses there and nydus the main. Unreal mental fortitude by him.
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Oh. Lucky scout for Hero.
10 pool. I hate playing against that in my ladder games. LOL.
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On August 14 2012 20:17 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl. This post is hilarious when you look at the first sentence and compare it to the rest
Can't expect much from a tool who dies to a 1 zealot runby in TvP.
User was warned for this post
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On August 14 2012 20:21 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:20 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 IshinShishi wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. I've watched the GSL since open season 3, I'm sure that's true. I've seen DRG completely dominate ZvZ with excellent micro in games. Just because he lost today doesn't make it seem like "zomg, Kespa players doing something that's never been done before!" Which isn't true, cause it's been done before. On that note, damn is DRG doing terribly this past month. It makes it "zomg" because effort has played the game for 3 months while concurrently practicing brood war. That is why it is a big deal. And what I find funny about all of this is, Kespa teams are bringing in former GSL players/coaches to coach them so it accelerates the process. But no one even mentions that. It's done wonders for Jaedong's game though. I want him to go far. And er...has it been three months? I'm almost certain that the kespa players have been practising sc2 for way longer than that.
Yeah it's mid-August. I'm surprised ppl are still saying 3 months...
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On August 14 2012 20:21 Chunhyang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:17 mordk wrote:On August 14 2012 20:15 Assirra wrote:On August 14 2012 20:12 ceaRshaf wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On August 14 2012 20:07 Infernal Knight wrote:
LR threads are a lot more pleasant when we're not having elephant wars. <_< Seriously, it's getting to a pathetic level. And of course there's zero moderation on that topic because it's actually supported -_- Well, time to back out of these threads then. It's not like CODE S players don't have a lot of raging fans that treat these KESPA players like code B or worse players and when they actually win or put up a fight they come with excuses. If respect was given were it's due no arguments would be happening. Some Kespa players are already really good and not even full speed. Deal with it! Oh come on, don't try to act like the victim here. The thing that started this mess was the TL article which praised the kespa players like a god (remember the nonsenical 100 players stomping the sc2 compettion) off all over it and calling sc2 essentially a joke. Actually it was even more nonsensical, the article said 300 pros and semipros could roflstomp the SC2 scene (or, as the article said, crush) withing a few months of switching. Such ridiculousness. The funny thing is that the article predicted instant domination. There is no domination. Nothing instant. It's been proven wrong. But Kespa players doing well, can't we just be happy
this
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On August 14 2012 20:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:13 IshinShishi wrote:On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen. You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true. I've watched the GSL since open season 3, I'm sure that's true. I've seen DRG completely dominate ZvZ with excellent micro in games. Just because he lost today doesn't make it seem like "zomg, Kespa players doing something that's never been done before!" Which isn't true, cause it's been done before. On that note, damn is DRG doing terribly this past month. It makes it "zomg" because effort has played the game for 3 months while concurrently practicing brood war. That is why it is a big deal.
No, what makes it "zomg" is that no one has ever traded so well in two fronts so consistently before.
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On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0
dno tho i do remember hearing about something to do with him, and there was a ton of bad reactions on TL from it, but i dont really know, maybe its pretty bad?
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