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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 14 2012 11:19 GMT
#1621
Come on Yugioh! Activate some trap cards.
EZ4ENCE
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1622
On August 14 2012 20:16 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 20:15 Asha` wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl.


Yup, it's like when people release replay packs of them taking the occasional game off named pros on ladder and people take that to mean they are actually close to being competitive with them and should get a big tournament invite.


Or it's like when Kespa players win a few meaningless bo3's in WCS a few times and they're somehow amazing.

Wait..


Yeah. I can't wait till KeSPA players go up against Mvp and Oz etc in OSL/GSL. People judge too quickly. Preparation is where you see the player really snap necks.
The Bomber boy
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1623
On August 14 2012 20:14 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 20:12 silent_owl wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen.


You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true.


Well, we will all see a lot more ZvZ's. With Kespa players winning.


Well, I've seen Kespa players win ZvZ's before. Hyun, NesTea....oh wait, those were former Kespa players.

Seriously, I don't know why people are so enamored with labeling players and taking up factions/sides.

I'm personally rooting for Jaedong!


I agree completely. I mean, I tend to root for the current KeSPA players simply because I've been watching them play longer, but putting people into artificial boxes as a whole is silly. I think most lower to mid level KeSPA players will simply have to retire, but the S class players will always be good in any RTS because they're just a cut above in terms of raw talent and amount of practice. But it's not like all the KeSPA B-teamers are going to come wreck GSL or something.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1624
On August 14 2012 20:18 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Just a quick question. Liquipedia says Happy got a forfeit W versus MVP. Why Did MVP not show up/cancel participation or w/e?


MVP had a prior commitment to go to IEM gamescom.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1625
Well DongRaeGu is now officially in a slump. This was not his usual performance. Taldarim in the 3rd set definately favored Effort, but that can't be an excuse for him to lose in this kinda fashion. You'd expect more from him than going for a neverending ling/baneling war... Go into defending, add a 2nd queen and drone carefully while building up for expanding, that's what I expected him to do, after he saw in the first few attemps to pressure effort, that this doesn't work....
DRG has a lot of work to do to come back. And it's not that he loses in a specific matchup. He suffers defeats all over the place. Really sad
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1626
Poll: herO[jOin] vs. YuGiOh?

herO[jOin] (51)
 
54%

YuGiOh (43)
 
46%

94 total votes

Your vote: herO[jOin] vs. YuGiOh?

(Vote): herO[jOin]
(Vote): YuGiOh

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1627
On August 14 2012 20:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 20:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:13 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:10 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:09 IshinShishi wrote:
omfg, effOrt has really gone full elephant, it's hillarious to see people trying to down play this, when nestea trades well in baneling wars he is trading 4 lings for 1 baneling, what I mean by is that DRG played extremely well, it's just that no one has ever traded so perfectly as effort in baneling wars, amazing game, possibly the best zvz I've ever seen.


You haven't seen a lot of ZvZ games if you think that's true.

I've watched the GSL since open season 3, I'm sure that's true.


I've seen DRG completely dominate ZvZ with excellent micro in games. Just because he lost today doesn't make it seem like "zomg, Kespa players doing something that's never been done before!" Which isn't true, cause it's been done before.

On that note, damn is DRG doing terribly this past month.


It makes it "zomg" because effort has played the game for 3 months while concurrently practicing brood war. That is why it is a big deal.


And what I find funny about all of this is, Kespa teams are bringing in former GSL players/coaches to coach them so it accelerates the process. But no one even mentions that.

It's done wonders for Jaedong's game though. I want him to go far.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1628
at least this elephant vs bear (gom) thing makes this LR so much alive, i love it
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1629
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 11:21:21
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1630
I have watched Effort since his debut and i am not to suprised by the results . Effort could keep up with Jaedong in ZvZ in his prime and Jaedong back then was a fucking monster .
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#1631
On August 14 2012 20:20 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 20:16 The KY wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:15 Asha` wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl.


Yup, it's like when people release replay packs of them taking the occasional game off named pros on ladder and people take that to mean they are actually close to being competitive with them and should get a big tournament invite.


Or it's like when Kespa players win a few meaningless bo3's in WCS a few times and they're somehow amazing.

Wait..


Yeah. I can't wait till KeSPA players go up against Mvp and Oz etc in OSL/GSL. People judge too quickly. Preparation is where you see the player really snap necks.


About that, what is up with OSL? When does the ro16 even start? We've heard so little about it...

OSL better get some better scheduling up in this bitch before they can really start to compete with GOM.
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1632
I really just wish there could be supporting of the players without the asinine flame-baiting.
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1633
On August 14 2012 20:20 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 20:16 The KY wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:15 Asha` wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl.


Yup, it's like when people release replay packs of them taking the occasional game off named pros on ladder and people take that to mean they are actually close to being competitive with them and should get a big tournament invite.


Or it's like when Kespa players win a few meaningless bo3's in WCS a few times and they're somehow amazing.

Wait..


Yeah. I can't wait till KeSPA players go up against Mvp and Oz etc in OSL/GSL. People judge too quickly. Preparation is where you see the player really snap necks.


At first it was they can't beat GSL players. Then it's they can't beat Code S players. Now it's MVP and OZ. I bet you MVP and OZ are going to lose soon too.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1634
On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0


Because he flames everyone and talks shit?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1635
On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0

he deserves little better tbh, that statement was poorly written
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1636
COME ON, CJ HERO!!! GO PROTOSS!!!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1637
I have registered for GomTV, but I am asking, out of those many videos on display, which one is the live one? Which would be..... hero join vs yugioh right?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1638
On August 14 2012 20:20 The KY wrote:
Why is everyone flaming lastshadow so much 0_0


lol
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1639
On August 14 2012 20:17 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 20:15 Assirra wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:09 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On August 14 2012 20:07 Infernal Knight wrote:
LR threads are a lot more pleasant when we're not having elephant wars. <_<


Seriously, it's getting to a pathetic level.

And of course there's zero moderation on that topic because it's actually supported -_-

Well, time to back out of these threads then.


It's not like CODE S players don't have a lot of raging fans that treat these KESPA players like code B or worse players and when they actually win or put up a fight they come with excuses. If respect was given were it's due no arguments would be happening.

Some Kespa players are already really good and not even full speed. Deal with it!

Oh come on, don't try to act like the victim here.
The thing that started this mess was the TL article which praised the kespa players like a god (remember the nonsenical 100 players stomping the sc2 compettion) off all over it and calling sc2 essentially a joke.

Actually it was even more nonsensical, the article said 300 pros and semipros could roflstomp the SC2 scene (or, as the article said, crush) withing a few months of switching. Such ridiculousness.


The funny thing is that the article predicted instant domination.
There is no domination. Nothing instant. It's been proven wrong.

But Kespa players doing well, can't we just be happy
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1640
On August 14 2012 20:13 lastshadow wrote:
lol all of you flaming/judging the kespa players are posting so ignorantly and foolishly. The gsl players are afraid of the kespa players, and kespa rapes them faceless in practice, none of you have any idea what you talk about when you critique their play. You think because they lose meaningless bo3's in a WCS a few times that they're somehow bad? This is also the logic where people exalt foreigners that can take a bo3 off a korean. it's meaningless, and again, in practice kespa > gsl.


Finally someone, with actual inside knowledge, that makes sense.
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