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On August 14 2012 02:58 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. No offense to Kas but why? To me he has always seemed overly ordinary. Yea, he's high up there in GM but what big events has Kas won?
Kas did pretty good in team leagues. Moreover, i remember a series against Zenio where he won pretty convincingly. Anyway, he looks like a really good player, but don't adapt to his opponents. He's playing tournaments just like he's playing ladder games.
Kas is usually a beast, but, just like you feel he is overestimated, i think Major is REALLY overestimated. Like, what did this guy won to be this much hyped ?
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On August 14 2012 03:03 nemahsys wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:01 Fragile51 wrote:On August 14 2012 03:00 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 02:58 magnaflow wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. Which means absolutely nothing. Even the best foreign player (besides Stephano) is shit compared to any Korean player Occasionally the ping from EU to NA can get really bad, like half a second delay and it really fucks up your play. But usually it's ok tbh. Kas is from ukraine, and probably playing from ukraine. Eastern europe latency to NA is said to be absolutely dreadful. if we're going to bring up the lag every time theres a beatdown in the TSL why even have the tourney? So sick of seeing the latency excuse when someone get stomped on. Kas got rolled over by a vastly superior player, lag had absolutely nothing to do with it at any point in time.
Well, I was just discussing ping not the results but if we're on the topic..
What do you mean lag had nothing to do with it? How do you know that. Lag is a thing that exists and it affects how you play.
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On August 14 2012 03:05 Caesarion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:04 Talionis wrote:
HOLY SHIT the intro played without lagging. Haha, first time for me too.
I thought I was the only one.
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Haha, Curious really has gone full Life in ZvP as of late...
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The dichotomy of seeing Kas get owned like a guy trying out in a qualifier for his first tournament then immediately the next set we have two S class players 
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On August 14 2012 03:03 nemahsys wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:01 Fragile51 wrote:On August 14 2012 03:00 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 02:58 magnaflow wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. Which means absolutely nothing. Even the best foreign player (besides Stephano) is shit compared to any Korean player Occasionally the ping from EU to NA can get really bad, like half a second delay and it really fucks up your play. But usually it's ok tbh. Kas is from ukraine, and probably playing from ukraine. Eastern europe latency to NA is said to be absolutely dreadful. if we're going to bring up the lag every time theres a beatdown in the TSL why even have the tourney? So sick of seeing the latency excuse when someone get stomped on. Kas got rolled over by a vastly superior player, lag had absolutely nothing to do with it at any point in time.
I'm pretty sure that lag is generally worse KR -> NA than EU->NA anyway. This topic was discussed over and over during TSL 3 and if I'm not mistaken, that was the conclusion people came up with. I heard that the earthquake in Japan had something to do with the KR->NA lag though, but I admit that I don't really know anything about why that might be true - just something I heard. If it's true though, then I suppose the KR->NA lag might be better now assuming the lag was due to earthquake-infliced infrastructure problems that might be fixed now. Of course, the earthquake explanation might be total bullshit and I might just be talking out of my ass in that respect, but I'm still pretty sure that it was established that KR->NA lag is generally worse than EU->NA lag, for whatever reason.
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On August 14 2012 03:06 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:03 nemahsys wrote:On August 14 2012 03:01 Fragile51 wrote:On August 14 2012 03:00 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 02:58 magnaflow wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. Which means absolutely nothing. Even the best foreign player (besides Stephano) is shit compared to any Korean player Occasionally the ping from EU to NA can get really bad, like half a second delay and it really fucks up your play. But usually it's ok tbh. Kas is from ukraine, and probably playing from ukraine. Eastern europe latency to NA is said to be absolutely dreadful. if we're going to bring up the lag every time theres a beatdown in the TSL why even have the tourney? So sick of seeing the latency excuse when someone get stomped on. Kas got rolled over by a vastly superior player, lag had absolutely nothing to do with it at any point in time. Well, I was just discussing ping not the results but if we're on the topic.. What do you mean lag had nothing to do with it? How do you know that. Lag is a thing that exists and it affects how you play.
Because you can see just from watching them play that Kas isnt on the same level as Life, or any other mid to top korean pro. People who think that he is are delusional fanboys.
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 . Squirtle didn't do the ninja move of hiding a Probe on the low ground and sneaking in a cannon at your Forge while they try to kill Probes.
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baneling inc?
ok not banelings ^^
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On August 14 2012 03:06 Supter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 02:58 SupLilSon wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. No offense to Kas but why? To me he has always seemed overly ordinary. Yea, he's high up there in GM but what big events has Kas won? Kas did pretty good in team leagues. Moreover, i remember a series against Zenio where he won pretty convincingly. Anyway, he looks like a really good player, but don't adapt to his opponents. He's playing tournaments just like he's playing ladder games. Kas is usually a beast, but, just like you feel he is overestimated, i think Major is REALLY overestimated. Like, what did this guy won to be this much hyped ?
Like I said, no offense to Kas, but that is the exact problem I find with him. He has his style and he plays it to death. He's consistent, but when you run into a code S level Zerg, that isn't going to do you anything.
Major was regarded as one of the strongest BW foreigners AFAIK and he kind of dismantled HyuN in ro32.
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On August 14 2012 03:08 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:06 Supter wrote:On August 14 2012 02:58 SupLilSon wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. No offense to Kas but why? To me he has always seemed overly ordinary. Yea, he's high up there in GM but what big events has Kas won? Kas did pretty good in team leagues. Moreover, i remember a series against Zenio where he won pretty convincingly. Anyway, he looks like a really good player, but don't adapt to his opponents. He's playing tournaments just like he's playing ladder games. Kas is usually a beast, but, just like you feel he is overestimated, i think Major is REALLY overestimated. Like, what did this guy won to be this much hyped ? Like I said, no offense to Kas, but that is the exact problem I find with him. He has his style and he plays it to death. He's consistent, but when you run into a code S level Zerg, that isn't going to do you anything. Major was regarded as one of the strongest BW foreigners AFAIK and he kind of dismantled HyuN in ro32.
Hyun lost that game more than Major won it.
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Evidently Life has been teaching Curious some new tricks since he joined ST.
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On August 14 2012 03:07 nemahsys wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:06 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 03:03 nemahsys wrote:On August 14 2012 03:01 Fragile51 wrote:On August 14 2012 03:00 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 02:58 magnaflow wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. Which means absolutely nothing. Even the best foreign player (besides Stephano) is shit compared to any Korean player Occasionally the ping from EU to NA can get really bad, like half a second delay and it really fucks up your play. But usually it's ok tbh. Kas is from ukraine, and probably playing from ukraine. Eastern europe latency to NA is said to be absolutely dreadful. if we're going to bring up the lag every time theres a beatdown in the TSL why even have the tourney? So sick of seeing the latency excuse when someone get stomped on. Kas got rolled over by a vastly superior player, lag had absolutely nothing to do with it at any point in time. Well, I was just discussing ping not the results but if we're on the topic.. What do you mean lag had nothing to do with it? How do you know that. Lag is a thing that exists and it affects how you play. Because you can see just from watching them play that Kas isnt on the same level as Life, or any other mid to top korean pro. People who think that he is are delusional fanboys.
That's not what I think watching Kas play. He's never gonna compete in Code S but he could take games off a few Koreans imo.
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On August 14 2012 03:06 Supter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 02:58 SupLilSon wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. No offense to Kas but why? To me he has always seemed overly ordinary. Yea, he's high up there in GM but what big events has Kas won? Kas did pretty good in team leagues. Moreover, i remember a series against Zenio where he won pretty convincingly. Anyway, he looks like a really good player, but don't adapt to his opponents. He's playing tournaments just like he's playing ladder games. Kas is usually a beast, but, just like you feel he is overestimated, i think Major is REALLY overestimated. Like, what did this guy won to be this much hyped ?
Yeah I quite don't understand the major bandwagon 
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I'm pretty sure that lag is generally worse KR -> NA than EU->NA anyway.
I remember Llewellys, during the MSI Pro Cup saying that the worst was to play on Europe, because koreans have huge lags on Europe, but not so much on UE, and europeans have some lags on UE because their connection aren't as good as koreans'.
I'm not saying that Kas just failed because of lag, but Kas is usually way better than this. So were Darkforce. I mean, they already beat koreans convincingly, but when it's tsl "herr derr they are so bad herp derp", whereas it's usually not the case.
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You'd think line and life's team mate would be good at dealing with 6pools.
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how2 6pool lesson for all the zergs in gm
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On August 14 2012 03:10 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:06 Supter wrote:On August 14 2012 02:58 SupLilSon wrote:On August 14 2012 02:57 Supter wrote:
Seriously, Kas ? I heard playing on USA server is pretty hard from a European point of view. Hope that's why he lost this badly. I always thought Kas was the second best foreign terran. No offense to Kas but why? To me he has always seemed overly ordinary. Yea, he's high up there in GM but what big events has Kas won? Kas did pretty good in team leagues. Moreover, i remember a series against Zenio where he won pretty convincingly. Anyway, he looks like a really good player, but don't adapt to his opponents. He's playing tournaments just like he's playing ladder games. Kas is usually a beast, but, just like you feel he is overestimated, i think Major is REALLY overestimated. Like, what did this guy won to be this much hyped ? Yeah I quite don't understand the major bandwagon
Artosis Effect™
You gain super hype and Artosis curse for three turns. 
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interesting game xD
think that curious has the advantage now. probably a huge one.
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EPT
