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Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
August 04 2012 20:18 GMT
#81
... So what's the delay?
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
August 04 2012 20:18 GMT
#82
On August 05 2012 05:17 ikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:12 Silvanel wrote:
Its primarly to minimalize the amount of cheating (You know live games over internet and money on the line...)

But also helps with sheduling i guess.

cheating has nothing to do with it, even if it did, how does casting from replays minimize cheating? it's a scheduling thing of course, it's hell to organize live online tournaments, atm it's 5AM in seoul and 11pm in helsinki (where sase and mana would play their games if they were live) and the games haven't even started yet.


If its casted live you can just have a friend check out what your opponent is doing from the stream and tell you everything about it. Duh.
Amove for Aiur
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
August 04 2012 20:19 GMT
#83
so... when does this start? there isn't even a start time? ...
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Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 20:20:39
August 04 2012 20:19 GMT
#84
On August 05 2012 05:17 Amestir wrote:
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On August 05 2012 05:09 Plexa wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:59 Amestir wrote:
Does anyone know how old these games are? I understand the casting from replays but how older the games are, the less fun it becomes.

Incredibly recent. We always strive to play the games as close as possible to the broadcast


Really appriciate the (oficial) answer. However this still doesn't say all that much. Is incredibly recent a week? A day? an hour?

If you could I would really like an average or atleast some kind of figure you strive for when you decide to let the games be played.


It was said last week that for example the Elfi games were played a few days before the weekend, but the Ret ones were played on the day before.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 20:21:14
August 04 2012 20:19 GMT
#85
On August 05 2012 05:18 Snusmumriken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:17 ikh wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:12 Silvanel wrote:
Its primarly to minimalize the amount of cheating (You know live games over internet and money on the line...)

But also helps with sheduling i guess.

cheating has nothing to do with it, even if it did, how does casting from replays minimize cheating? it's a scheduling thing of course, it's hell to organize live online tournaments, atm it's 5AM in seoul and 11pm in helsinki (where sase and mana would play their games if they were live) and the games haven't even started yet.


If its casted live you can just have a friend check out what your opponent is doing from the stream and tell you everything about it. Duh.

even if the whole idea of TSL level players cheating wasn't so inane, it's one strike and you're out, career over.. that's why there is a thing called delay which is used in live tournaments/streams, y'know.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#86
Soon, as dictated by Blizzard!
The Bomber boy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#87
It's so recent they have to wait for the last series to end.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#88
On August 05 2012 05:18 ELA wrote:
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On August 05 2012 05:17 Fungal Growth wrote:
Just tuned into the tournament for the first time and am just seeing intro music. Is this normal? Will this start shortley?


Probably Day9 off to get some water... Like usual ^^

It should start very soon

Depends on how much water we're talking here
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
August 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#89
Can I just ask are these games live or replays?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#90
On August 05 2012 05:17 ikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:12 Silvanel wrote:
Its primarly to minimalize the amount of cheating (You know live games over internet and money on the line...)

But also helps with sheduling i guess.

cheating has nothing to do with it, even if it did, how does casting from replays minimize cheating? it's a scheduling thing of course, it's hell to organize live online tournaments, atm it's 5AM in seoul and 11pm in helsinki (where sase and mana would play their games if they were live) and the games haven't even started yet.

Everyone is right. Cheating is definitely a concern, which is why we only allow official obs when the games are played and why we move to a cast-from-replays format during the TLOpens. But it is also more convenient for the players, and allows us to schedule it so that the conditions are as good as we can get for everyone. It also means if there is lag we can resolve it/delay the match etc. Essentially its all about creating the fairness and most convenient format for the players.

Regarding SaSe, I don't know I didn't schedule anything this week.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#91
On August 05 2012 05:19 ikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:18 Snusmumriken wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:17 ikh wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:12 Silvanel wrote:
Its primarly to minimalize the amount of cheating (You know live games over internet and money on the line...)

But also helps with sheduling i guess.

cheating has nothing to do with it, even if it did, how does casting from replays minimize cheating? it's a scheduling thing of course, it's hell to organize live online tournaments, atm it's 5AM in seoul and 11pm in helsinki (where sase and mana would play their games if they were live) and the games haven't even started yet.


If its casted live you can just have a friend check out what your opponent is doing from the stream and tell you everything about it. Duh.

that's why there is a thing called delay which is used in live tournaments, y'know.

even if the whole idea of TSL level players cheating wasn't so inane, it's one strike and you're out, career over.

Sometimes a player needs to hide his strat/cheese for longer than 2 mins.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
x2mirko
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany245 Posts
August 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#92
On August 05 2012 05:20 Mackus wrote:
Can I just ask are these games live or replays?


replays
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 04 2012 20:22 GMT
#93
On August 05 2012 05:20 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:18 ELA wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:17 Fungal Growth wrote:
Just tuned into the tournament for the first time and am just seeing intro music. Is this normal? Will this start shortley?


Probably Day9 off to get some water... Like usual ^^

It should start very soon

Depends on how much water we're talking here

So... much... dedication.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 04 2012 20:22 GMT
#94
My predictions

Hack 3-2 Mana
Prime 3-1 Select
Daisy 0-3 First
Sase 3-2 Coca (even though it will most likely be 3-0 for coca, but I believe !)
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#95
We've live now! Sorry for the delay. Blame Blizzard.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#96
Why say it's live for the past twenty minutes when it isn't?

Ah, there we go.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#97
well it's about time
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
August 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#98
I think their clocks are 23 minutes slow :o
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4728 Posts
August 04 2012 20:24 GMT
#99
On August 05 2012 05:19 ikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:18 Snusmumriken wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:17 ikh wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:12 Silvanel wrote:
Its primarly to minimalize the amount of cheating (You know live games over internet and money on the line...)

But also helps with sheduling i guess.

cheating has nothing to do with it, even if it did, how does casting from replays minimize cheating? it's a scheduling thing of course, it's hell to organize live online tournaments, atm it's 5AM in seoul and 11pm in helsinki (where sase and mana would play their games if they were live) and the games haven't even started yet.


If its casted live you can just have a friend check out what your opponent is doing from the stream and tell you everything about it. Duh.

even if the whole idea of TSL level players cheating wasn't so inane, it's one strike and you're out, career over.. that's why there is a thing called delay which is used in live tournaments/streams, y'know.



There are some very well known players who got caught cheating, they are now playing and enjoying admiaration of the comunity. Its not "no strike You are out policy", and really if You dont get how much of advantage stream cheating would get You (especially on this level of play) then onve again, tough luck for You dude. Nothing to add.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
August 04 2012 20:24 GMT
#100
Go mana. He seems like a real funny bloke.
Amove for Aiur
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