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Warnings and bans will be handed out for Balance whining in the thread, just like every other Live Report thread.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 20 2012 22:39 GMT
#1261
I apologize if this has been asked a million times already but I have a Gold membership but I don't see (or have maybe) a voucher code for HD. Is this not available in HD to Gold members already?
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 20 2012 22:39 GMT
#1262
On July 21 2012 07:38 SayGen wrote:
Where all the cyto fans now....

somehow I told you so just doesn't fit.

Wow you really made the bold prediction of Hero winning?
Man you surely know your stuff!
Off-season = best season
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
July 20 2012 22:39 GMT
#1263
On July 21 2012 07:39 Tobblish wrote:
That touch TV replay analyzing is simply brilliant!

if only there wasn't people standing in front of it
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1264
I think this is quite cool. goswser needs to look at the camera more though.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1265
On July 21 2012 07:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms.


It is not Cytoplasm's build.

It's Symbol's.


Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid.


No one was doing that in ZvP until very, very recently.

And Fruitdealer was the guy who popularised it in ZvT.


No, Stephano did not popularize it either, but he was doing it way before Symbol became famous.

Fruitdealer didn't popularize it in ZvT either, he exploited a bug.


Show me some games in tournaments where Stephano uses Ultra/Ling/Bane/Infestors vs Protoss.


Prove that nobody was using ling/bane/infestor/ultra before Symbol. That composition along with ling/baneling + drops was all the rage around spring 2011.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1266
Holy shit Apollo = King.

His accent and vocabulary make his analysis amazing.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1267
This analysis thing is set up like the Sky News Weatherman.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1268
On July 21 2012 07:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:36 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:29 Asha` wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:27 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:
[quote]

Seed

SKMC!


MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O


Let's be honest.

Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.


Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have.


It's not balance whine.

And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.


Just gonna keep saying it:
SEED

He has beaten Symbol, Violet, and Curious this season. Most impressively he 4-0'd Curious. Curious is one of the absolute top zergs in the world and on the day that Seed 4-0'd him he beat Hero.


He's also lost 2-0 to both Whale and True in the last month.


Doing very well doesn't mean being unbeatable..

I think his point was that Whale and True arent really considered to be players someone good in the matchup would lose to

It's not just about who you lose to, but how you lose. Did you see the games?
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1269
On July 21 2012 07:39 Charger wrote:
I apologize if this has been asked a million times already but I have a Gold membership but I don't see (or have maybe) a voucher code for HD. Is this not available in HD to Gold members already?


It is not I'm afraid
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1270
On July 21 2012 07:39 gedatsu wrote:
Apollo's mic looks like a mustache in a certain angle.


You just changed my life for the better thanks
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1271
On July 21 2012 07:39 Integra wrote:
Feels like they are presenting the weather for the coming week.

feels like they are overdoing it. plus don't they have a better analyst than gosuwer ??? I mean this guy is mainly known for his bm as far as I know and not for his analyst skills
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1272
Oh, really loving the setup of this event so far! First time I drop by the Arena tournys..
On aother unrealted note, I got the sudden urge to draw a penis on that replay screen D:
GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1273
this is a really awesome combo of a touch screen analysis with that tool program. you really can make some great illustrative points with it. and I fully trust appollo to use it well!
Standard.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1274
On July 21 2012 07:39 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:38 SayGen wrote:
Where all the cyto fans now....

somehow I told you so just doesn't fit.

I don't think anybody actually thinks Cytoplasm is actually better than Hero...


read 5 pages ago
We Live to Die
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1275
Apollo bought a nice suit. He looks classy.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:43:04
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#1276
Gosuser is pretty good man


On July 21 2012 07:40 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:39 Integra wrote:
Feels like they are presenting the weather for the coming week.

feels like they are overdoing it. plus don't they have a better analyst than gosuwer ??? I mean this guy is mainly known for his bm as far as I know and not for his analyst skills


There's nothing wrong with gosuwer, he is a pro and therefore understands the game at a high level, and he is doing a good job in my opinion of articulating it. Just because he doesn't have 100000 fans doesn't mean he is bad
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Xodushai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden174 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1277
This whole analysiz on screen thing feels so awkward, MLG a bit out of iedas atm.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1278
I love the new analysis thing, apparently that's a feature Blizzard was planning for HOTS as an in-game feature, hope they go through with it because of this.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1279
They should have sorted out the pink lighting and hidden the wires on the TV and the analysis stuff would look much more polished.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1280
On July 21 2012 07:39 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:36 m0ck wrote:
I think it's quite a nice change that we no longer have the best TvZ-players at 70-80% winrate against zerg while the best ZvT-players have around 60% winrate versus terran. Even at this point, do any of the best zergs have vT as their best match-up statistically?

To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story.


In an ideal world we'd have the snipers with 70-80% win rate in a match on both sides of the coin and a 50% win rate vs the other snipers.

I really like having players like MMA was who are just insane vs certain races.

There's no fun in randomness.


There should be players with that high of win-rate from both races though. Even when DRG was considered a ZvT sniper he never approached MMA/MVPs TvZ win-rates.


Yeah exactly. Unfortunately Blizzard have never hit that balanced point in the game yet where this is possible. I guess there was a time in ZvP where Coca, Nestea and MC were all near unbeatable but that lasted a month or two at best and I might have the dates out.
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