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Warnings and bans will be handed out for Balance whining in the thread, just like every other Live Report thread.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 20 2012 22:34 GMT
#1221
Hero is really looking on his game right now.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32751 Posts
July 20 2012 22:34 GMT
#1222
Really nicely alligned FFs. Cytoplasm is struggling to respond properly to HerO.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1223
HerO setting things straight.
Administrator
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1224
Hero showing that the first game was a bit of a fluke.

Cytoplasm is underrated in general though, doesn't market himself well at all but he's one of the better foreign Zergs.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1225
LOL @ all the guys who said cyto had a chance. lol
We Live to Die
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1226
That was more what was expected from Hero
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:36:18
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1227
On July 21 2012 07:32 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:31 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:30 Asha` wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:30 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:29 Asha` wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:27 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:
[quote]

MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O


Let's be honest.

Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.


Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have.


It's not balance whine.

And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.


Just gonna keep saying it:
SEED

He has beaten Symbol, Violet, and Curious this season. Most impressively he 4-0'd Curious. Curious is one of the absolute top zergs in the world and on the day that Seed 4-0'd him he beat Hero.


He's also lost 2-0 to both Whale and True in the last month.


Where?


TSL qualies. Lost to Leenock in the HSC qualifier before that etc too.


TSL qualifiers are in TLPD and don't show him losing to Whale or True.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3220
http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3221

Edit: Thought you were talking about Hero. My mistake!
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1228
This game is over man
<3 bw
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#1229
Now thats the Hero I love
eSports for life.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 20 2012 22:36 GMT
#1230
I think it's quite a nice change that we no longer have the best TvZ-players at 70-80% winrate against zerg while the best ZvT-players have around 60% winrate versus terran. Even at this point, do any of the best zergs have vT as their best match-up statistically?

To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 20 2012 22:36 GMT
#1231
On July 21 2012 07:29 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:27 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:
[quote]

Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh.


Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately


Seed

SKMC!


MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O


Let's be honest.

Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.


Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have.


It's not balance whine.

And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.


Just gonna keep saying it:
SEED

He has beaten Symbol, Violet, and Curious this season. Most impressively he 4-0'd Curious. Curious is one of the absolute top zergs in the world and on the day that Seed 4-0'd him he beat Hero.


He's also lost 2-0 to both Whale and True in the last month.


Doing very well doesn't mean being unbeatable..
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
July 20 2012 22:36 GMT
#1232
On July 21 2012 07:35 SayGen wrote:
LOL @ all the guys who said cyto had a chance. lol


dont we post these things after someone lost 0-2 ? i am confused right now
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 20 2012 22:36 GMT
#1233
chill CYTO GET OUT
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1234
On July 21 2012 07:32 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:29 DOUDOU wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:27 Tobblish wrote:
OP should be updated with the link to own3d and Twitch stream link!

http://www.own3d.tv/MLG
http://sv.twitch.tv/mlg_sca

Love MLG for using both own3d and twitch <3
(and not just their own player)

i prefer:
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG LIVE


And I prefer:


You point being?...

i was giving everyone a link to the people that prefer having streams integrated in TL, avoiding twitch scritpts that may slow down comp or get the stream laggy, believe me there's many people like this, as every MLG some ask for it


what was your point?...
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1235
kill army -> mass recall time ;D
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:37:42
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1236
On July 21 2012 07:36 m0ck wrote:
I think it's quite a nice change that we no longer have the best TvZ-players at 70-80% winrate against zerg while the best ZvT-players have around 60% winrate versus terran. Even at this point, do any of the best zergs have vT as their best match-up statistically?

To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story.


In an ideal world we'd have the snipers with 70-80% win rate in a match on both sides of the coin and a 50% win rate vs the other snipers.

I really like having players like MMA was who are just insane vs certain races.

There's no fun in randomness.
Marth
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany146 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1237
Wow... totally outplayed :O
www.last.fm/user/the_windwaker | http://trakt.tv/users/iammarth
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1238
big hero!

only 4400 viewers? really? Hrm.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1239
HerO is warmed up!
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#1240
If you don't obliterate hero's economy, you're gonna lose Cytoplasm.
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