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Warnings and bans will be handed out for Balance whining in the thread, just like every other Live Report thread.
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1281
On July 21 2012 07:40 Ruscour wrote:
I think this is quite cool. goswser needs to look at the camera more though.


Glad I'm not the only one that likes it.
eSports for life.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1282
On July 21 2012 07:40 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:39 gedatsu wrote:
Apollo's mic looks like a mustache in a certain angle.


You just changed my life for the better thanks


I kept laughing : (
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1283
What software do they use for that?
SC2, rip in pepperinos
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:42:09
July 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#1284
On July 21 2012 07:39 Redox wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:38 SayGen wrote:
Where all the cyto fans now....

somehow I told you so just doesn't fit.

Wow you really made the bold prediction of Hero winning?
Man you surely know your stuff!

HAHAHAHAHA. THIS was funny :D Liked it ^^
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1285
Its annoying that everytime they play some add or do a break my stream goes black and I have to refresh again to get a picture.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
alrik21
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden20 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1286
I love that they are trying hard to get a good show. but i think they are overdoing it a bit with the regoing of the match right afterwards at the analyst board.
Liberated
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1287
On July 21 2012 07:40 Ammoth wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:39 Charger wrote:
I apologize if this has been asked a million times already but I have a Gold membership but I don't see (or have maybe) a voucher code for HD. Is this not available in HD to Gold members already?


It is not I'm afraid


Really? Wow wtf. Thanks for the help.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1288
On July 21 2012 07:40 Yaki wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:39 Integra wrote:
Feels like they are presenting the weather for the coming week.

feels like they are overdoing it. plus don't they have a better analyst than gosuwer ??? I mean this guy is mainly known for his bm as far as I know and not for his analyst skills


Either way I'd say he's doing a fine job. I have no issue with him being there.
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1289
On July 21 2012 07:39 gedatsu wrote:
Apollo's mic looks like a mustache in a certain angle.

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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1290
On July 21 2012 07:40 SayGen wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:39 ZAiNs wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:38 SayGen wrote:
Where all the cyto fans now....

somehow I told you so just doesn't fit.

I don't think anybody actually thinks Cytoplasm is actually better than Hero...


read 5 pages ago

I did. Cytoplasm deserved to win the first game but I don't think anybody would say that he is actually better.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#1291
On July 21 2012 07:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms.


It is not Cytoplasm's build.

It's Symbol's.


Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid.


No one was doing that in ZvP until very, very recently.

And Fruitdealer was the guy who popularised it in ZvT.


No, Stephano did not popularize it either, but he was doing it way before Symbol became famous.

Fruitdealer didn't popularize it in ZvT either, he exploited a bug.


Show me some games in tournaments where Stephano uses Ultra/Ling/Bane/Infestors vs Protoss.


Prove that nobody was using ling/bane/infestor/ultra before Symbol. That composition along with ling/baneling + drops was all the rage around spring 2011.


Which was popularised by Losira.

But Losira never used Ultra's. This is pretty damn different to baneling drop because of the fast hive into Ultras.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#1292
On July 21 2012 07:40 ZAiNs wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:36 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:29 Asha` wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:27 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:
[quote]
SKMC!


MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O


Let's be honest.

Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.


Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have.


It's not balance whine.

And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.


Just gonna keep saying it:
SEED

He has beaten Symbol, Violet, and Curious this season. Most impressively he 4-0'd Curious. Curious is one of the absolute top zergs in the world and on the day that Seed 4-0'd him he beat Hero.


He's also lost 2-0 to both Whale and True in the last month.


Doing very well doesn't mean being unbeatable..

I think his point was that Whale and True arent really considered to be players someone good in the matchup would lose to

It's not just about who you lose to, but how you lose. Did you see the games?

No I was just proving insight on the point being made. I never said I agreed with it
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DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#1293
On July 21 2012 07:42 alrik21 wrote:
I love that they are trying hard to get a good show. but i think they are overdoing it a bit with the regoing of the match right afterwards at the analyst board.

Really? I like it alot and I also like their comments. Think it improves the show by far
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#1294
Gogo cyto, finish the job!! \o/
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#1295
On July 21 2012 07:39 JJH777 wrote:
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On July 21 2012 07:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:36 m0ck wrote:
I think it's quite a nice change that we no longer have the best TvZ-players at 70-80% winrate against zerg while the best ZvT-players have around 60% winrate versus terran. Even at this point, do any of the best zergs have vT as their best match-up statistically?

To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story.


In an ideal world we'd have the snipers with 70-80% win rate in a match on both sides of the coin and a 50% win rate vs the other snipers.

I really like having players like MMA was who are just insane vs certain races.

There's no fun in randomness.


There should be players with that high of win-rate from both races though. Even when DRG was considered a ZvT sniper he never approached MMA/MVPs TvZ win-rates.

You're assuming there are players of equal caliber and specialization on all races at any given time.

This is rarely the case.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#1296
Has TaeJa vs Dream started yet?
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
July 20 2012 22:44 GMT
#1297
On July 21 2012 07:36 m0ck wrote:

To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story.


Are you talking about Korea as a whole, or GSL only?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 20 2012 22:44 GMT
#1298
On July 21 2012 07:43 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:39 JJH777 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:36 m0ck wrote:
I think it's quite a nice change that we no longer have the best TvZ-players at 70-80% winrate against zerg while the best ZvT-players have around 60% winrate versus terran. Even at this point, do any of the best zergs have vT as their best match-up statistically?

To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story.


In an ideal world we'd have the snipers with 70-80% win rate in a match on both sides of the coin and a 50% win rate vs the other snipers.

I really like having players like MMA was who are just insane vs certain races.

There's no fun in randomness.


There should be players with that high of win-rate from both races though. Even when DRG was considered a ZvT sniper he never approached MMA/MVPs TvZ win-rates.

You're assuming there are players of equal caliber and specialization on all races at any given time.

This is rarely the case.


It is in BW though. So it's absolutely possible in RTS, just Blizzard hasn't found that balance yet in Sc2.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
July 20 2012 22:44 GMT
#1299
I actually like the analyst desk. I think it's nice. Maybe it's just Apollo's awesome balances out Goswser.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 20 2012 22:45 GMT
#1300
A touch screen that huge had to of cost a pretty penny... I'd want to use it as much as possible in between matches too.
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